Leopard A1A1 at 9.0 good or bad?

[Bootleg Greedo]

So I very recently got my A1A1 (was 200,000 into grinding it at my first tier 6 tank when they jumped up the BR) and I used some gold to get the HEAT-FS since after several months of playing mostly the Leo 1 I'm very comfortable with the round. And I do understand that there is a similarly penning APFSDS round (not enough gold to get that so I'm grinding for it regularly), but I have to say, every single game I've played so far in the A1A1 has been 10.0 getting creamed by Abrams and Type 90s. And don't get me wrong, I've killed a few (that turret ring tho), but I can't help but feel so utterly outclassed by these tanks that I really have to wonder if 9.0 is the right spot for the A1A1, or if 8.7 would be more reasonable. After all, it is just a Leo 1 with a new round and a stabilizer, so for that to qualify a 1.3 br jump seems like a lot.

Let me know what you guys think about this, like I said, haven't been driving the tank long and don't have all my upgrades yet, so I'm curious to hear what spaded A1A1 drivers and people who have to fight them have to say.

[Charmander787]

The new round and stabilizer is what makes it a 9.0 tank. Oh and the reload speed.

APFSDS is amazing.

[Bootleg Greedo]

So I just need to sit tight until I get it then basically?

[sosina]

The Leo A1 at 9.0 isn't remotely fair whatsoever. Reload, the APDS-FS round and a stabilizer doesn't warrant it to be fighting vs Type-90s and M1 Abrams. The only place it can do well is in a downteir vs 8.7s. The only real reason it was put at 9.0 was Gajins attempt to satisfy the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ US and USSR players of 8.7 and in doing so, they killed German 8.0 and some of 7.7 along with it.

I've only been playing the Leo A1 for 17 matches and I can already tell. Even with the best round. It is severely outclassed. 8.7 would be a decent BR for it, 8.3 even better. Leave it to Gaijin to break their own game.

[Vriz]

Originally posted by _Dreamy:

The Leo A1 at 9.0 isn't remotely fair whatsoever. Reload, the APDS-FS round and a stabilizer doesn't warrant it to be fighting vs Type-90s and M1 Abrams. The only place it can do well is in a downteir vs 8.7s. The only real reason it was put at 9.0 was Gajins attempt to satisfy the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ US and USSR players of 8.7 and in doing so, they killed German 8.0 and some of 7.7 along with it.

I've only been playing the Leo A1 for 17 matches and I can already tell. Even with the best round. It is severely outclassed. 8.7 would be a decent BR for it, 8.3 even better. Leave it to Gaijin to break their own game.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hell no at 8.3.

8.7 yes, but ♥♥♥♥ off with 8.3

[Deepsummer]

if you grind the mods - skip it if you have money, play it
Leo1 and a1a1 are totaly unworth like the jpz without mods, with mods they are pretty dezent sniper

[The Bone Zone]

It's balanced, as all things should be.

[Deepsummer]

no its not pepe, it is balanced with all mods but you have to hard grind and need 300games + without booster but premium to grind them all welll at least 200 for the shooting mods + sabot...