Panzer IV F2 ...

[BobWolf]

Every single game I play against the german I got one shot by Panzer IV F2. Point and click. That's very unpleasant and boring.

This tank could easily be 4.0 and still be a good option. Why 3.3 ...?

[coolasianinja]

while it can point and click you, you can also point and click it. its not hard to kill by all means. if you have an issue killing this tank. oh man, you will have an issue with higher tiers

[Lord Castellan Majorian]

Originally posted by coolasianinja:

while it can point and click you, you can also point and click it. its not hard to kill by all means. if you have an issue killing this tank. oh man, you will have an issue with higher tiers

PZ 4 F2 fighting 5.0 tanks, the meme that would be, the PZ 4 H strugles already the F2 is the H but worse.

[-=GHS=-BoonDock™]

1.0's can kill the pz 4f2 with ease from the frontl.

[Baron901]

The f2 is a glass cannon. Sure it has a good gun but its armour is thin with it being able to get killed by 50 cals at the sides.

[torindechoza]

a glass cannon that is fast, has a turret that turns pretty fast itself. Basically outclasses all the other nations 3.3 tanks by far.
Someone would say: t34 can oneshot it. Ok, but pz4f2 can one shot the soviet kv1s. Let alone the t34. Of course there is no need to counter the pz4 because dies easily but so far is the best tank ive seen.

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by Lord Castillan:

Originally posted by coolasianinja:

while it can point and click you, you can also point and click it. its not hard to kill by all means. if you have an issue killing this tank. oh man, you will have an issue with higher tiers

PZ 4 F2 fighting 5.0 tanks, the meme that would be, the PZ 4 H strugles already the F2 is the H but worse.

The Pz IV H is amazing...

[kamikazi21358]

Actually tbh though, statistically speaking: it actually could go 3.7, it is not that different from the Pz IV G.

[Leo "Gamer" G]

Originally posted by Torin:

a glass cannon that is fast, has a turret that turns pretty fast itself. Basically outclasses all the other nations 3.3 tanks by far.
Someone would say: t34 can oneshot it. Ok, but pz4f2 can one shot the soviet kv1s. Let alone the t34. Of course there is no need to counter the pz4 because dies easily but so far is the best tank ive seen.

The Panzer 4 F2 has the worst turret rotation out of all the other 3.3 mediums (except I think the Japanese one), the M4A1 and T-34 1941 have almost twice the speed. It's also not fast, sure it has a higher top speed than the M4A1 but they have roughly the same acceleration but the Cromwell and T-34 far out class it. And any tank with APHE filler can easily one shot a Panzer 4

[Leo "Gamer" G]

Originally posted by Baron901:

The f2 is a glass cannon. Sure it has a good gun but its armour is thin with it being able to get killed by 50 cals at the sides.

The F2 can't be killed by 50 cals from the side or rear, I don't think the F1 or E can either. Pretty sure only the C can

[saymyname]

Originally posted by Leo G:

Originally posted by Baron901:

The f2 is a glass cannon. Sure it has a good gun but its armour is thin with it being able to get killed by 50 cals at the sides.

The F2 can't be killed by 50 cals from the side or rear, I don't think the F1 or E can either. Pretty sure only the C can

Standard rounds, no.
I did kill a panzer 4 f1 with quad 50 cal hvap tho, at 200-300 m the last shot entered turret ring from side.

[Leo "Gamer" G]

Originally posted by SAY_MY_NAME:

Originally posted by Leo G:

The F2 can't be killed by 50 cals from the side or rear, I don't think the F1 or E can either. Pretty sure only the C can

Standard rounds, no.
I did kill a panzer 4 f1 with quad 50 cal hvap tho, at 200-300 m the last shot entered turret ring from side.

Glitch then, the side turret is 30mm I think (on the F2 and I think F1 has same armour)

[Obamenau]

It really should be 3.7. It has No reason to be lower than the Chi-nu II or Stug F.

[uɐɐılʎʇs]

Originally posted by Mindstream:

It really should be 3.7. It has No reason to be lower than the Chi-nu II or Stug F.

Chi nu 2 ill use up to about 5.3, panzer i wouldnt. Chi nu is a much better glass cannon.

Both tanks are guns and thats about it, no real speed or any other bonuses over other tanks. Both are fine where they are and area easily taken out by anything they face.

If they cant kill a Pz4 then they are truly going to stuggle at higher tiers.

[Obamenau]

Originally posted by uɐɐılʎʇs:

Originally posted by Mindstream:

It really should be 3.7. It has No reason to be lower than the Chi-nu II or Stug F.

Chi nu 2 ill use up to about 5.3, panzer i wouldnt. Chi nu is a much better glass cannon.

Both tanks are guns and thats about it, no real speed or any other bonuses over other tanks. Both are fine where they are and area easily taken out by anything they face.

If they cant kill a Pz4 then they are truly going to stuggle at higher tiers.

Chi nu is less mobile, reloads slower and is both much more cramped and has ammo in the turret.

It is really a sidegtade to the F2. Scales better, but is less efficient at killing stuff at its own tier and below it.

[saymyname]

Originally posted by Leo G:

Originally posted by SAY_MY_NAME:

Standard rounds, no.
I did kill a panzer 4 f1 with quad 50 cal hvap tho, at 200-300 m the last shot entered turret ring from side.

the side turret is 30mm

Not everywhere