Deceptive QF 3.7 RAM

[MADX0]

Was doubtful about activating it, after using other "Exposed" SPGs (M56, 88 Flak, 29-K,)... But its quite enjoyable, decent movility and reload, high pen and damage, also the hull and shape keeps it from being spotted (identified) right away by planes... completes a 3 vehicle lineup at 5.0 for brits... and it wont suffer if uptiered...

edit: no hullbreak!

Too good to be true imo...
Does anyone else thinks it might get a nerf or BR increase soon?

[Illusionyary]

It doesn't have hullbreak like the others.

[MADX0]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

It doesn't have hullbreak like the others.

Excellent point!
That could be a way to "nerf" it...

[Katokevin]

Originally posted by MADX0:

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

It doesn't have hullbreak like the others.

Excellent point!
That could be a way to "nerf" it... :ccskull:

Being on a RAM hull, I doubt you would ever have to worry about that. If they have yet to give the VFW hullbreak, I don't see the 3.7" RAM getting it. No armor, best armor + no hull break can make for a really trolly, survivable, and fun vehicle, even more so when it has a good gun.

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by Katokevin:

Originally posted by MADX0:

Excellent point!
That could be a way to "nerf" it... :ccskull:

Being on a RAM hull, I doubt you would ever have to worry about that. If they have yet to give the VFW hullbreak, I don't see the 3.7" RAM getting it. No armor, best armor + no hull break can make for a really trolly, survivable, and fun vehicle, even more so when it has a good gun.

The VFW has hullbreak now.

[Velesianus]

The ram may have the single greatest crew survivablity vs tank rounds and bombs in the game.

I've got a couple hundred matches in it now and so far I've survived CAS from a pe-8 twice. One of those times the bomb landed on my right and killed a comet on my left. It killed 5 of my crew and broke every module on the Ram but after a lengthy repair I drove off and got one more kill before the match ended.

It's definitely op but not kv1-e/b or ka-50 op. Arty and anything with a machine gun is going to easily smoke it so you can't use it to push or hold caps. This being the case I think it's fine br wise.

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

The Flak 8,8 no Hullbreak?? When did that happen?

[MADX0]

Originally posted by (｡◕‿◕｡):

It's definitely op but not kv1-e/b or ka-50 op. Arty and anything with a machine gun is going to easily smoke it so you can't use it to push or hold caps. This being the case I think it's fine br wise.

Well, never used OP to define it for the very reason I said Exposed, having nothing but a frontal plate for crew (?) protection (MGs of any caliber can decimate the crew if angled)... Using binos or commader view is annoying at times...

[Katokevin]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

Originally posted by Katokevin:

Being on a RAM hull, I doubt you would ever have to worry about that. If they have yet to give the VFW hullbreak, I don't see the 3.7" RAM getting it. No armor, best armor + no hull break can make for a really trolly, survivable, and fun vehicle, even more so when it has a good gun.

The VFW has hullbreak now.

Well I'll be damned, it does! Any idea when they snuck that in? I read every change log and I don't recall seeing that change.

[jaxjace]

I hate all of you that gathered around to molest my precious VFW and Flakbus, American crybabies strike again!

[Katokevin]

Originally posted by jaxjace:

I hate all of you that gathered around to molest my precious VFW and Flakbus, American crybabies strike again!

I personally think the VFW deserved hullbreak. What I don't think ANY hullbreakable vehicle deserves is stupid deaths, or them still able to tank shells. I still want to see a hullbreak overhaul to make it more reasonable and consistent among all that have it, but deep down, I know it will never happen.

[jaxjace]

Originally posted by Katokevin:

Originally posted by jaxjace:

I hate all of you that gathered around to molest my precious VFW and Flakbus, American crybabies strike again!

I personally think the VFW deserved hullbreak. What I don't think ANY hullbreakable vehicle deserves is stupid deaths, or them still able to tank shells. I still want to see a hullbreak overhaul to make it more reasonable and consistent among all that have it, but deep down, I know it will never happen.

Should only get hullbreak if its HULL is hit. the gunshield isnt the hull. thing is, it already died in one shot to the hull anyway its just for some reason that eludes me no one ever did. always always they shoot the gun shield.

[Katokevin]

Originally posted by jaxjace:

Originally posted by Katokevin:

I personally think the VFW deserved hullbreak. What I don't think ANY hullbreakable vehicle deserves is stupid deaths, or them still able to tank shells. I still want to see a hullbreak overhaul to make it more reasonable and consistent among all that have it, but deep down, I know it will never happen.

Should only get hullbreak if its HULL is hit. the gunshield isnt the hull. thing is, it already died in one shot to the hull anyway its just for some reason that eludes me no one ever did. always always they shoot the gun shield.

Personally, I think a gunshield hit should count, but ONLY with a large enough HE. AP to the gunshield alone and killing it is just wrong, but what I expect these days. I still, and probably will for a long time, consider hullbreak half baked.

[jaxjace]

Originally posted by Katokevin:

Originally posted by jaxjace:

Should only get hullbreak if its HULL is hit. the gunshield isnt the hull. thing is, it already died in one shot to the hull anyway its just for some reason that eludes me no one ever did. always always they shoot the gun shield.

Personally, I think a gunshield hit should count, but ONLY with a large enough HE. AP to the gunshield alone and killing it is just wrong, but what I expect these days. I still, and probably will for a long time, consider hullbreak half baked.

no one would deny an HE shot should kill it, in fact it often did just that. again almost NO ONE shot me with anything but ap and apcbc for reasons that elude me again. now its a garunteed kill from a solid shot round pinging through the gunshield and hitting no one. this is a travesty and a gross miscarriage of justice i tells you.

[Kay]

Originally posted by jaxjace:

Originally posted by Katokevin:

Personally, I think a gunshield hit should count, but ONLY with a large enough HE. AP to the gunshield alone and killing it is just wrong, but what I expect these days. I still, and probably will for a long time, consider hullbreak half baked.

no one would deny an HE shot should kill it, in fact it often did just that. again almost NO ONE shot me with anything but ap and apcbc for reasons that elude me again. now its a garunteed kill from a solid shot round pinging through the gunshield and hitting no one. this is a travesty and a gross miscarriage of justice i tells you.

It happens to most hullbreakable vehicles at the moment, Warrior can be hullbroken by 30mm AP rounds for example.

Hullbreak has always been broken, they've just made it more broken then gave it to the VFW

[Shard]

Originally posted by jaxjace:

Originally posted by Katokevin:

Personally, I think a gunshield hit should count, but ONLY with a large enough HE. AP to the gunshield alone and killing it is just wrong, but what I expect these days. I still, and probably will for a long time, consider hullbreak half baked.

no one would deny an HE shot should kill it, in fact it often did just that. again almost NO ONE shot me with anything but ap and apcbc for reasons that elude me again. now its a garunteed kill from a solid shot round pinging through the gunshield and hitting no one. this is a travesty and a gross miscarriage of justice i tells you.

That thing absolutely did NOT die to HE when it didn't have hullbreak. The spalling of the HE round would at best kill one guy behind the gun shield, but never even spall down, and if itwould, there isn't anything that would have resulted in instant death, unless you are shooting from the side where I'd rather break the breech and MG the crew quickly. Although I have to agree that hullbreak does not work as it should. Possibly the most stupid thing is that shots to the wheels and can hullbreak you, while light vehicles like the Rooikad were especially designed to be able to drive with less weels.