Javelin FAW is awful.

[pompous]

Its so bad compared to planes just 0.3 BR above it, as usual the UK gets♥♥♥♥♥♥on.


All the new tanks are♥♥♥♥♥♥ theyve done nothing to flesh out top tier, 3 new jets doesnt make a new tier, 10-15 is the minimum.

Also the Hunter is 9.0 yet the CL13 is 8.0 i hope thats a mistake.

[Vriz]

Originally posted by Sir Det Mist:

Its so bad compared to planes just 0.3 BR above it, as usual the UK gets♥♥♥♥♥♥on.


All the new tanks are♥♥♥♥♥♥ theyve done nothing to flesh out top tier, 3 new jets doesnt make a new tier, 10-15 is the minimum.

Also the Hunter is 9.0 yet the CL13 is 8.0 i hope thats a mistake.

You might have the BR of the CL13 set on Arcade, dont see anything in patchnotes CL-13 got dropped in BR

[pompous]

Originally posted by Vriz:

Originally posted by Sir Det Mist:

Its so bad compared to planes just 0.3 BR above it, as usual the UK gets♥♥♥♥♥♥on.


All the new tanks are♥♥♥♥♥♥ theyve done nothing to flesh out top tier, 3 new jets doesnt make a new tier, 10-15 is the minimum.

Also the Hunter is 9.0 yet the CL13 is 8.0 i hope thats a mistake.

You might have the BR of the CL13 set on Arcade, dont see anything in patchnotes CL-13 got dropped in BR

Ok that was it but still, WTF is this ♥♥♥♥ the US get an F100 a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ F100 and the brits get this ♥♥♥♥.

[Vriz]

Originally posted by Sir Det Mist:

Originally posted by Vriz:

You might have the BR of the CL13 set on Arcade, dont see anything in patchnotes CL-13 got dropped in BR

Ok that was it but still, WTF is this ♥♥♥♥ the US get an F100 a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ F100 and the brits get this ♥♥♥♥.

Yeah, no big surprise. Brits never get good ♥♥♥♥ anymore

[pompous]

Originally posted by Vriz:

Originally posted by Sir Det Mist:

Ok that was it but still, WTF is this ♥♥♥♥ the US get an F100 a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ F100 and the brits get this ♥♥♥♥.

Yeah, no big surprise. Brits never get good ♥♥♥♥ anymore

Its slower than the F86 and the hunter.

its over 400kph slower than the F100.

[Franss the Coffee Addict]

Originally posted by Sir Det Mist:

Originally posted by Vriz:

You might have the BR of the CL13 set on Arcade, dont see anything in patchnotes CL-13 got dropped in BR

Ok that was it but still, WTF is this ♥♥♥♥ the US get an F100 a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ F100 and the brits get this ♥♥♥♥.

Because it's one of the Gaijoobles rules: Whatever you add, British vehicle of any type has performance out of whack or they are ridicilously overtiered.

[pompous]

Originally posted by Franss the Coffee Addict:

Originally posted by Sir Det Mist:

Ok that was it but still, WTF is this ♥♥♥♥ the US get an F100 a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ F100 and the brits get this ♥♥♥♥.

Because it's one of the Gaijoobles rules: Whatever you add, British vehicle of any type has performance out of whack or they are ridicilously overtiered.

The T-72 is nothing to shout about wont help the russian at top tier the new Challenger mk3 is just the same useless tank and the italian tree was just pointless another tree that will need fleshing out will slow the games progress down.

[Franss the Coffee Addict]

Do those new british aircraft at least get the Air to Air missiles that had way more advanced locking mechanism compared to USA and Soviet versions?

[pompous]

Originally posted by Franss the Coffee Addict:

Do those new british aircraft at least get the Air to Air missiles that had way more advanced locking mechanism compared to USA and Soviet versions?

They get air to air or i think they do but still 0.3 BR lower but 400kph slower WTF.

The update is called supersonic and only 2 vehicles are supersonic.

The italian tree just looks plain boring and pointless.

[[Not*****] Kanye2028]

Dev server is open of the time of posting this if you want to check out all of the new stuff.

[pompous]

Originally posted by Not Admin Kanye2020:

Dev server is open of the time of posting this if you want to check out all of the new stuff.

Im on the server.

Its dissapointing.

[AttackerCat]

I actually really like the Javelin. There's a glitch with fuel starvation over 1060kph currently, but it has monster acceleration and the Firestreaks are easier to lockon than the MiG 19 A2As.

Plus, the Javelin has an incredible roll rate. Feels like flying a 190. The elevator control is a little eak at speed, but it's still plenty agile, I've been breaking enemy missile locks extremely easily.

[Jepicus]

The Javelin is very dissapointing, there are 8.0s that are faster. Im assuming the fuel glitch will be fixed but it's just ♥♥♥♥ compared to the other supersonic jets. 9.7 makes no difference, as there's no 8.7 planes ingame. It has little ammo, and it's guns are wing mounted. I hope to see a lot more supersonics jets added in the patch of equal capability. I think they should all be 11.0 as well, these jets should absolutely NOT be facing 9.0. Gaijin should leave 10.0 open for transonic jets. There are plenty of them and the jump between the tiers wont be so huge.

[pompous]

Originally posted by Gryffyd:

The Javelin is very dissapointing, there are 8.0s that are faster. Im assuming the fuel glitch will be fixed but it's just ♥♥♥♥ compared to the other supersonic jets. 9.7 makes no difference, as there's no 8.7 planes ingame. It has little ammo, and it's guns are wing mounted. I hope to see a lot more supersonics jets added in the patch of equal capability. I think they should all be 11.0 as well, these jets should absolutely NOT be facing 9.0. Gaijin should leave 10.0 open for transonic jets. There are plenty of them and the jump between the tiers wont be so huge.

I wish i could delete my progress in the UK tree and just have it in GE.

[🐙RampagingSquid🐙]

Originally posted by AttackerCat:

I actually really like the Javelin. There's a glitch with fuel starvation over 1060kph currently, but it has monster acceleration and the Firestreaks are easier to lockon than the MiG 19 A2As.

Plus, the Javelin has an incredible roll rate. Feels like flying a 190. The elevator control is a little eak at speed, but it's still plenty agile, I've been breaking enemy missile locks extremely easily.

The fuel glitch happens at every speed with any slight control input, not just 1060kmh.

As I've stated elsewhere, in test flight the plane breaks apart at 1030km/h regardless of upgrades so I've no idea how you made it 1060km/h.

The plane is missing 4000lbf of thrust, probably because its been modelled with the wrong engines (pretty sure as it sits it is an FAW7 not a FAW9)

The agility is trash, sure the roll rate is decent but the elevators are garbage at all speeds.

its slower than the Hunter and in some cases probably the Mk8 Meteor. It's slower than the G91, F86A5, Mysteres, Vautours, Every sabre is faster, MiG15 is faster... hell even the Me262 can dive out to higher speeds and not break apart.

It's utterly trash and would be more suited to BR8.7 or 9.0, once fixed it could MAYBE be 9.3...

Thats provided it can actually achieve 1140km/h like IRL and gets its 4000lbf of missing thrust back while also having its agility buffed significantly.

Hunter has already been hit with the nerf bat for no reason and its agility is not even close to what it was capable of in reality, we don't need yet another nail in the coffin of the british tech tree. The chally mk3 is a complete disappointment as well... armored bins are wrong (5mm... whereas IRL documents show 10-25mm thickness) and the lower glacis ERA is virtually useless.

[[Not*****] Kanye2028]

Originally posted by Sir Det Mist:

Originally posted by Not Admin Kanye2020:

Dev server is open of the time of posting this if you want to check out all of the new stuff.

Im on the server.

Its dissapointing.

Yeah as you said I wish I could get all of my british tree Planes, Ships and Tanks They have done nothing but dissapoint us brits it seemed like a longshot thinking wow the challenge 1 mk 2 might give us a chance no it's uterlly usless compared to almost every other tree I mean the speed is bad the rounds it get are trash. If it had L26 that might atleast make it playable and useful for the team. I would much rather have a US tree flushed out than british. Then them giving us the black knight upgrade is like pouring salt on a open wound then stiching it up. Like really just terrible and it's not like L26 would be OP it would have a little more pen than the AMX round and still have less than the Type 90. Legit grinding 390,000 for a like 100mm addon to the under plate of the hull on the chally. Oh but there's more ammo drums yall won't get ammo racked but hey we still get 0 armor.