So US has the worst tanks right?

[korkk]

I have only been playing for about two weeks and just got to tier 3 but I dont see how its possible to have worse tanks. tissue paper armor/spit ball cannons/ slower than mud going up hilll/ camo thats only good if you are sitting still in a pile of ♥♥♥♥. I wish there was a disclaimer telling you to avoid playing the US because because they are total ♥♥♥♥ gonna start grinding german or russian now because this is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Scrotum Scratcher]

Germany and Russia are way easier for beginners. I'd play them first then try US.

[AttackerCat]

US tanks aren’t really bad, tier III has some of the best vehicles for their BE in the game. The Jumbo is a solid heavy with mobility similar to a medium with very good armor, the M18s are fast and have a pretty good fun for the BR. The M6 can hold the line alongside the Jumbo as well with the 76mm gun and the angley oddness of the frontal armor.

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

Originally posted by Scrotum Scratcher:

Germany and Russia are way easier for beginners. I'd play them first then try US.

Germany way Easier? We've been Uptiered 24/7 and once users unlock the Tiger, they kept dying because of the Learning Curve

[saymyname]

Originally posted by Scrotum Scratcher:

Germany and Russia are way easier for beginners. I'd play them first then try US.

LOL

[AttackerCat]

Originally posted by Scrotum Scratcher:

Germany and Russia are way easier for beginners. I'd play them first then try US.

This is also true. Pz IIs with autocannons, short 75mms at 1.3 with HEAT, and the Pz IV F2 in tier II make for some solid BRs and and solid performance.

USSR also has some decent cannons early on, and the T-34s in the 3.3-4.0 range are good fun.

[saymyname]

Originally posted by korkk:

I have only been playing for about two weeks and just got to tier 3 but I dont see how its possible to have worse tanks. tissue paper armor/spit ball cannons/ slower than mud going up hilll/ camo thats only good if you are sitting still in a pile of♥♥♥♥♥♥ I wish there was a disclaimer telling you to avoid playing the US because because they are total♥♥♥♥♥♥gonna start grinding german or russian now because this is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t.

US tree is probably the best in the entire game, everything goes from super strong to good. There is no up or overtiered vehicle like ISU-122, SU-57B, Panzer 4 J, 105 Tiger or other ♥♥♥♥.
It's just that there's a very vocal majority of freedumbs constantly complaining.

[Scrotum Scratcher]

Originally posted by SAY_MY_NAME:

Originally posted by korkk:

I have only been playing for about two weeks and just got to tier 3 but I dont see how its possible to have worse tanks. tissue paper armor/spit ball cannons/ slower than mud going up hilll/ camo thats only good if you are sitting still in a pile of♥♥♥♥♥♥ I wish there was a disclaimer telling you to avoid playing the US because because they are total♥♥♥♥♥♥gonna start grinding german or russian now because this is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥t.

US tree is probably the best in the entire game, everything goes from super strong to good. There is no up or overtiered vehicle like ISU-122, SU-57B, Panzer 4 J, 105 Tiger or other ♥♥♥♥.
It's just that there's a very vocal majority of freedumbs constantly complaining.

Every 76mm sherman in the game, m18, m36, T20, etc. gets uptiered constantly and some tanks are bad for their BR like the 76mm M4A2

US lacks TDs while GER and RU get huge varieties

Have to rely on solid shot shells and APCR way more than GER and USSR

Armor isn't very reliable until 6.7 with the only exception being the 4.7 Jumbo (when downtiered)

Bad SPAA

Has to rely on CAS to get an advantage

[Scrotum Scratcher]

And you have to carry the UK and the dumb US players

[Scrotum Scratcher]

If you decide to go Russia, I'd definitely get the T-34s. All of them are solid except the first one. KV-1's are very noob friendly. Later, you'll get the IS-1 which is very strong (70% winrate in mine) and the T-34-85. Both can kill Jumbos and Tigers very easily while maintaining good mobility and armor.

I'd then wait on the heavy tank line and instead go for T-44s and T-54s then into T-64s.

For Germany, the Pz II is one of the best seal clubbers in early ranks. The Panzer IV's are good options, especially the Pz IV F2 at 3,3 BR. Just make sure to angle your armor and then you point and click. The Dicker Max at 4.3 can kill Jumbos if you struggle against those.

The Tigers and Panthers are both good tanks, often getting downtiered (but with the addition of the new 6.7 T30, you might get some uptiers) while also having good mobillity, gun and armor. If you angle your Tiger, you will be invulnerable from every 76mm gun. Even APCR.

Tiger II's are great tanks and the Panther II was recently moved to 6.7. I would grab those to get the next tiers of tanks. Aim for the lower glacis of US T34s and T29s. The Tiger II has a laser cannon muzzle velocity and a very quick reload while maintaining decent armor. And the Panther II gets a RANGEFINDER at 6.7.

[saymyname]

Originally posted by Scrotum Scratcher:

Originally posted by SAY_MY_NAME:

US tree is probably the best in the entire game, everything goes from super strong to good. There is no up or overtiered vehicle like ISU-122, SU-57B, Panzer 4 J, 105 Tiger or other ♥♥♥♥.
It's just that there's a very vocal majority of freedumbs constantly complaining.

Every 76mm sherman in the game, m18, m36, T20, etc. gets uptiered constantly and some tanks are bad for their BR like the 76mm M4A2

US lacks TDs while GER and RU get huge varieties

Have to rely on solid shot shells and APCR way more than GER and USSR

Armor isn't very reliable until 6.7 with the only exception being the 4.7 Jumbo (when downtiered)

Bad SPAA

Has to rely on CAS to get an advantage

-Wrong, it gets uptiered sometimes just like every other faction. The only one that gets always uptered is Germany 6.0-6.3 because no other faction has much vehicles there and Ger is just one of several nations.

- ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, US has the most powerful tank destroyers in game, GER and RU get somethng as good as US tank destroyers only by paying RU251 and Object 120

- " 4.7 Jumbo (when downtiered)" <---- you must be high
" Armor isn't very reliable until 6.7" Except that it is the best armor per BR, unless i missed another vehicle with 70 to 90 mm of frontal armor at 3.3, 80 to 90+ armor at 3.7. Ohhhh, i get it, t must be m4a3 105mm at 2.7 that has bad armor

- You mean except the most accurate and potent AA against aircrafts for the whole low-mid tier ? And the double Bofor with 76mm of pen and 6 crewman at 5.0 ?

[Scrotum Scratcher]

Originally posted by SAY_MY_NAME:

Originally posted by Scrotum Scratcher:

Every 76mm sherman in the game, m18, m36, T20, etc. gets uptiered constantly and some tanks are bad for their BR like the 76mm M4A2

US lacks TDs while GER and RU get huge varieties

Have to rely on solid shot shells and APCR way more than GER and USSR

Armor isn't very reliable until 6.7 with the only exception being the 4.7 Jumbo (when downtiered)

Bad SPAA

Has to rely on CAS to get an advantage

-Wrong, it gets uptiered sometimes just like every other faction. The only one that gets always uptered is Germany 6.0-6.3 because no other faction has much vehicles there and Ger is just one of several nations.

- ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, US has the most powerful tank destroyers in game, GER and RU get somethng as good as US tank destroyers only by paying RU251 and Object 120

- " 4.7 Jumbo (when downtiered)" <---- you must be high
" Armor isn't very reliable until 6.7" Except that it is the best armor per BR, unless i missed another vehicle with 70 to 90 mm of frontal armor at 3.3, 80 to 90+ armor at 3.7. Ohhhh, i get it, t must be m4a3 105mm at 2.7 that has bad armor

- You mean except the most accurate and potent AA against aircrafts for the whole low-mid tier ? And the double Bofor with 76mm of pen and 6 crewman at 5.0 ?

No, it always gets uptiered to fight Tiger I's and panthers. I've played an M18 M4A2 M4A3 lineup for around 180+ RB games and I have only seen around 5 Panzer IVs.

I said US lacks tank destroyers. I never said they were stronger than GER or RU tank destroyers. But I think the doomturtles are the only tank destroyers that can compete with GER and RU tank destroyers. M18 and M36 for example feel more like a light tank with their underwhelming gun and decent maneuverability. They only have potential if the user can actually use the speed correctly. German tank destroyers get wonderful guns like the dicker max at 4.3.

Well, the Sherman's armor would be decent if the Germans didn't have amazing guns at that BR. I said RELIABLE armor. Shermans don't take Pz 4 75mm rounds very well.

Ah yes, forgot about the overwhelming amount of people on the forums complaining how OP the US SPAA is, with the milk trucks strapped with 50 cals or the very slow firing 40mms that are ineffective against the armor Germany straps on all their tanks past 5.0 BR. And the M42 that is basically identical to the M19 but at 6.7 instead of 5.0.

[Sir_Kavdron]

Sounds like you don't know what your doing and or inept at tanks that require more skill than drive to an area and everything dies. Also camo does not work as it is anyway so your complaints seem more related to how your playing them.

And every nation builds tanks differently for different reasons, and that changes rank to rank.

[saymyname]

Originally posted by Scrotum Scratcher:

Originally posted by SAY_MY_NAME:

-Wrong, it gets uptiered sometimes just like every other faction. The only one that gets always uptered is Germany 6.0-6.3 because no other faction has much vehicles there and Ger is just one of several nations.

- ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, US has the most powerful tank destroyers in game, GER and RU get somethng as good as US tank destroyers only by paying RU251 and Object 120

- " 4.7 Jumbo (when downtiered)" <---- you must be high
" Armor isn't very reliable until 6.7" Except that it is the best armor per BR, unless i missed another vehicle with 70 to 90 mm of frontal armor at 3.3, 80 to 90+ armor at 3.7. Ohhhh, i get it, t must be m4a3 105mm at 2.7 that has bad armor

- You mean except the most accurate and potent AA against aircrafts for the whole low-mid tier ? And the double Bofor with 76mm of pen and 6 crewman at 5.0 ?

No, it always gets uptiered to fight Tiger I's and panthers. I've played an M18 M4A2 M4A3 lineup for around 180+ RB games and I have only seen around 5 Panzer IVs.

I said US lacks tank destroyers. I never said they were stronger than GER or RU tank destroyers. But I think the doomturtles are the only tank destroyers that can compete with GER and RU tank destroyers. M18 and M36 for example feel more like a light tank with their underwhelming gun and decent maneuverability. They only have potential if the user can actually use the speed correctly. German tank destroyers get wonderful guns like the dicker max at 4.3.

Well, the Sherman's armor would be decent if the Germans didn't have amazing guns at that BR. I said RELIABLE armor. Shermans don't take Pz 4 75mm rounds very well.

Ah yes, forgot about the overwhelming amount of people on the forums complaining how OP the US SPAA is, with the milk trucks strapped with 50 cals or the very slow firing 40mms that are ineffective against the armor Germany straps on all their tanks past 5.0 BR. And the M42 that is basically identical to the M19 but at 6.7 instead of 5.0.

Sure

HAVE YOU HEARD THE NEWS GUYS ?
M18 and M36 cAnt COmpeTe

Yeah, too bad US doesn't get the best armor AND the best gun, they just get the best armor trollish against anything but best guns and good guns
Litterally unplayable

"Hurr Durr" calling "milk truck" what is an halftrack and actually the best AA in game.

If we use US noobs complaints to balance we will get Jumbo at 1.0 and US sTilL sUFferR

[Valentine Michael Smith]

ussr and england are easy mode. churchill is literally faceroll to win, ussr rounds always 1 shot and stalinium blocks 90% of the shots even if it's .5mm thick.

[saymyname]

Originally posted by Valentine Michael Smith:

ussr and england are easy mode. churchill is literally faceroll to win, ussr rounds always 1 shot and stalinium blocks 90% of the shots even if it's .5mm thick.