So did the Maus have 240mm frontal turret armor or not?

[Leinad]

There are a lot of people who say it did have 240mm cheek armor and there are people who say it was initially 240mm, but in the process of bending, the plate was stretched to 220mm. So which one is true, I am a bit confused about the conflicting arguments...

[NovasGoSuper]

Well lock up the actual spec of the muas online, the cards on war thunder that give you the armor thickness and turret rotation etc.. are not entirely correct the spec on the cards are off

[kamikazi21358]

There has been several questions about this - people can’t determine if the Maus’s plate was 240mm thick, and was thinned to 220mm after it was rolled, or if the plate was thicker than 240mm and the final plate is 240mm thick, and the game has it wrong (since almost every single state other than WT says 240mm).

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

the MAUS! in war thunder is modelled after the V1 version wich had a mockup turret, not the actual turret that sits on the MAUS! at kubinka today.

[SleepySkull]

started as a 240mm and got rolled to 220mm/238mm.
In a old forum post from the early 2000's and some people went to kubinka and measured it with ultrasonic gauges and it was quite random, but always above 225mm - 240mm. So I'm onboard on the 240mm train.

On a second note, if it was rolled to 220mm, It shouldn't even be showed ingame.
All other tanks ingame follow the rule of blueprint armor. Where it takes the thickness of the blueprint and not of the actual thing.
Like T-34's having 38mm-50mm on certain batches of tanks, Or Shermans with armor between 1-3 inches on the side. Huge gaps in the armor of the T-34 (Source from The Chieftain If I remember correctly)

If it doesn't follow the rule, then alteast put the rest of the plate at 240mm and only in the middle where it gets the most stress durring rolling should be 220mm.

Also needs it's battleship armor multiplier.

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by SleepySkull:

2000's and some people went to kubinka and measured it with ultrasonic gauges and it was quite random, but always above 225mm - 240mm. So I'm onboard on the 240mm train.

Can you get a source for that?! There was a multi-hundred comment thread about this same subject a couple months ago, and it was back and forth, and at some point I said, “ok, this isn’t going anywhere, who ever can get a source of someone doing an actual ultrasonic measurement of the Maus turret is the only way this arguement can be resolved at this point,” and nobody could get this information and the thread was just a stalemate. This would be like the ultimate deciding factor: measurements from the real, one and only Maus turret.

[Leinad]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

Originally posted by SleepySkull:

2000's and some people went to kubinka and measured it with ultrasonic gauges and it was quite random, but always above 225mm - 240mm. So I'm onboard on the 240mm train.

Can you get a source for that?! There was a multi-hundred comment thread about this same subject a couple months ago, and it was back and forth, and at some point I said, “ok, this isn’t going anywhere, who ever can get a source of someone doing an actual ultrasonic measurement of the Maus turret is the only way this arguement can be resolved at this point,” and nobody could get this information and the thread was just a stalemate. This would be like the ultimate deciding factor: measurements from the real, one and only Maus turret.

Well but who would have an ultrasound device, the time, money, dedication and allowance from the museum to do this? I know the number of people that come to my mind is exactly 0. :c

[Leinad]

Originally posted by Mirage:

Not like it's gonna prevent you from being one tapped by heat.

It doesn't matter, if it is historical it needs to be 240mm. It would however increase protection by stuff like the IS-3s post war round etc since that thing has 230mm of pen at 0m 90°...

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

i dont get why gaijin used the V1 for the game, they had several MAUS! hulls and turrets completed, just never made it to the assembly line. or are these turrets all V1.?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/8sk08e/2_turrets_and_4_hulls_of_the_maus_discovered_by/

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/359078-incorrect-maus-turret-values/
short thread with an answer from gaijin, and then locked.

[Leinad]

Originally posted by NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/359078-incorrect-maus-turret-values/
short thread with an answer from gaijin, and then locked.

But shouldn't at least the E-100 get the 240mm then? I mean they said it is supposed to be a LATER version that could have happened later in the war, meaning it would have received the V2 production turret... Right? That would mean at least one of the super heavies would get the 240mm...

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

Originally posted by Ingwerdieb:

Originally posted by NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/359078-incorrect-maus-turret-values/
short thread with an answer from gaijin, and then locked.

But shouldn't at least the E-100 get the 240mm then? I mean they said it is supposed to be a LATER version that could have happened later in the war, meaning it would have received the V2 production turret... Right? That would mean at least one of the super heavies would get the 240mm...

if they said that, then yea i guess so.

[Leinad]

Originally posted by NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

Originally posted by Ingwerdieb:

But shouldn't at least the E-100 get the 240mm then? I mean they said it is supposed to be a LATER version that could have happened later in the war, meaning it would have received the V2 production turret... Right? That would mean at least one of the super heavies would get the 240mm...

if they said that, then yea i guess so.

Well that's better than nothing. I might do a bug report later on then. Unless someone else wants to make one)))

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

Originally posted by Ingwerdieb:

Originally posted by NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

if they said that, then yea i guess so.

Well that's better than nothing. I might do a bug report later on then. Unless someone else wants to make one)))

lol, no thanks ill pass :)

[Leinad]

Originally posted by NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

Originally posted by Ingwerdieb:

Well that's better than nothing. I might do a bug report later on then. Unless someone else wants to make one)))

lol, no thanks ill pass :)

Then I'll make one. Thanks for providing the previous threads. :D

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

Originally posted by Ingwerdieb:

Originally posted by NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

lol, no thanks ill pass :)

Then I'll make one. Thanks for providing the previous threads. :D

my pleasure.