Japanese VS America PLANES RB

[Ryanqube]

its not fair. its just not fair. American planes are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bulletproof to 7.9mm, while japanese planes can easily get one shot and burn by 7.9mm!

American planes have better firepower, speed, climb rate, and survivability. like come on gaijin, i shot 200 7.9mm bullets and 20mm to americans bomber at 4.0 BR and they just eat it and take me down with a single hit. whenever i play japanese planes, i either get outgunned, outplayed, or outrunned. that is how bad japanese planes vs americans.

there is no good ♥♥♥♥ if you play japanese planes, that is why the number of japanese planes player are barely enough to fill the match.

sure, "but Japanese planes are agile so it can turn faster than the americans" BUT WHAT IS THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ POINT IF THEIR PLANES ARE SO MUCH FASTER AND CAN CLIMB HIGHER THAN THE JAPANESE PLANES?! THEY WILL JUST GET ALTITUDE, DIVE IN, GET A KILL OR TWO, THEN GO BACK UP WHILE THE JAPANESE JUST SITTING THERE CAN'T CHASE IT DOWN BECAUSE THE JAPANESE PLANES CAN'T CLIMB!

there are only 2 good japanese planes at the right BR, its A7M5 otsu and the tier 1 bomber. the rest of it are garbage at their BR. and just don't even try to play japanese jets. your wings always split in half whenever you pull your plane slightly above 600 kmph speed.

japanese planes overall
-no armor
-no penetration
-no speed
-no climb
-no fun
-bad

if you are new to this game, go and play either the German or American planes. they are both outclass other country planes.

[kamikazi21358]

Complaining Japanese planes are underpowered - this is... new.

What aircraft are you playing?

[83athom]

Originally posted by Intellectual Human Being:

japanese planes overall
-no armor

True, but most planes in all nations don't.

Originally posted by Intellectual Human Being:

-no penetration

But they have more HE/incendry

Originally posted by Intellectual Human Being:

-no speed

Umm...

Originally posted by Intellectual Human Being:

-no climb

Lolwut

Originally posted by Intellectual Human Being:

-no fun
-bad

Except they are litteraly the best turnfighters in the game and are extremely fun to dogfight with?

[Jaes]

Ki-84, all models.

[Ryanqube]

Originally posted by Mirage:

I mean if you're playing against people who understand how Japanese planes work, there is very little you can do against a plane that dives onto you and doesn't engage in a turn fight.

that is exactly why japanese planes need rework. sure dogfight is fun, but most of americans just hit and run. not to mention the pbj that have armor, faster acceleration, and tons of guns that can rotate and shot you down.

[Ryanqube]

Originally posted by 83athom:

Originally posted by Intellectual Human Being:

japanese planes overall
-no armor

True, but most planes in all nations don't.

Originally posted by Intellectual Human Being:

-no penetration

But they have more HE/incendry

Originally posted by Intellectual Human Being:

-no speed

Umm...

Originally posted by Intellectual Human Being:

-no climb

Lolwut

Originally posted by Intellectual Human Being:

-no fun
-bad

Except they are litteraly the best turnfighters in the game and are extremely fun to dogfight with?

lol sure, if you are fighting ussr its fun. but with americans, nah brother. they just hit and run.

[Ryanqube]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

Complaining Japanese planes are underpowered - this is... new.

What aircraft are you playing?

a6m5 otsu, ki-43-2, and ki-84.

its not that im complaining because the planes are bad, but the americans is just too good. whenever i play against ussr, i get into really fun and challenging dogfight and nonstop action.
but against americans, no. they just strike you down and run into the cloud. just simply outplayed.
it makes the game not fun anymore.

[kamikazi21358]

Idk what to say, maybe Japanese aircraft are just not your style. I love the Ki-43-2 and I talismaned my A6M5 otsu.

[Lain]

Japanese guns are pretty borked. I can get past not being able to take damage, but when a 20mm HE round does less than a 12.7 round, I really have to wonder.

[NightHawk114]

Originally posted by Intellectual Human Being:

Originally posted by Mirage:

I mean if you're playing against people who understand how Japanese planes work, there is very little you can do against a plane that dives onto you and doesn't engage in a turn fight.

that is exactly why japanese planes need rework. sure dogfight is fun, but most of americans just hit and run. not to mention the pbj that have armor, faster acceleration, and tons of guns that can rotate and shot you down.

Dude. American planes HAVE to boom and zoom. It's literaly their only working tatic for 99% of the american air force. It's really easy to make a mistake and lose too much energy and get shot down, and side climbing isnt fun at all. It's quite boring when you can't dog fight. Trust me, ive ground my way up to the top tier, and it's not worth it. Other than the B-57. Thats actually fun

[Illusionyary]

While this is a really stupid thread I do actually agree with you on some parts.

Japanese 20s really do seem to do nothing, but the Type 5 30mms are the best 30mm cannons in the game. The J2M5 (30mm) is hilarious to use at the moment. It's an absolute beast at 4.7 and 74 rounds is easily enough for 5 kills.

I agree that US planes are a nightmare to fight when they're played correctly. You just can never get a shot on them unless they make a serious mistake, it's quite difficult. The A6M5 can dive around 700KMH no problem, which means you can chase down Allied planes and snipe them.

As for the jets ripping... never experienced that before. The Kikka is now one of the best initial jets in the game thanks to the cannon and engine buff. It's better than the 7.0 Me 262 and sits at 6.7.

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

the Type 5 30mms are the best 30mm cannons in the game.

*throws MK 103 under the bus*

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

The Kikka is now one of the best initial jets in the game thanks to the cannon and engine buff. It's better than the 7.0 Me 262 and sits at 6.7.

(Gaijin logic)

[Vezon40k]

I don't have any experience playing Japanese planes, but I see them do well. My P-61 barely makes it if at all when fighting them. But Germans? No problamo. Russians? It's a bit iffy, 50/50. I think you just need a better plane. :/

[A Toaster]

i only have the a6m2 and have a lot of fun with it and can kill allied fighters easly

[kamikazi21358]

Japanese aircraft are really good, but they have a specific style to them because of their advantages and disadvantages.
Which makes since when you say the US are too good: when fighting your average US player you usually win but when facing an experienced opponent who knows what he’s doing, you have some issues. Because unsurprisingly, US planes are specifically the best planes to use against Japanese aircraft: unless using an early War aircraft like the F4F or whatever, US planes are usually faster than the Japanese counterparts with stronger engines, and their high velocity easy to aim rapid fire flame throwing .50 cals do massive damage to unarmored Japanese aircraft. The US does best because many of their aircraft were specifically designed and built to kill Japanese aircraft.

[RAM AIR IV]

Have you ever heard of turning?