E-75

[Lord Castellan Majorian]

When is this tank being added to the game?

[kamikazi21358]

引用自 Mocha Kawa：

The entire E line was full and well going to be a thing, but good old Germany thought of having standardized tanks abit too late

The E series is cool - but ‘going to be a thing’ isn’t ‘a thing’.

引用自 King Albert I：

Was it made? If not, then it should not be added and will most likely not be added, especially since Gaijin is considering the removal of the Tiger 105/Paper II (although they're going to drag it out as long as possible to make the most money from people GE'ing up to them but that's beside the point), it wouldn't make sense to then just go and add more paper vehicles.

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引用自 Mocha Kawa：

引用自 King Albert I：

Was it made? If not, then it should not be added and will most likely not be added, especially since Gaijin is considering the removal of the Tiger 105/Paper II (although they're going to drag it out as long as possible to make the most money from people GE'ing up to them but that's beside the point), it wouldn't make sense to then just go and add more paper vehicles.

Was the E-100 made? Was the Maus made and deployed? Etc etc.

1.5 Maus made =/= literally a blueprint
.5 E-100 made, interpreted with a Maus turret which was made =/= a literal piece of paper.

引用自 SwedishStyle97：

Are Gaijin against project tanks aswell?
Like the Strv K. Basically a Centurion Mk.10 turret on a Kranvagn hull.
They never put the turret on the Chassit.
https://i.imgur.com/BqPEfMq.jpg

I already gave my opinion but this is more as a suggestion here -

After the Swedish tree is implemented in the future, perhaps the Strv could be a ultra rare even tank just like the E-100? Since it is just like the E-100: hull was built, turret existed too, never put together. In fact more than just 1 turret was made but not assembled, and they actually planned on putting it together unlike the E-100 and Maus Turret. So like said, perhaps another extremely rare 1000 given at a time only event vehicle from tournaments?

[83athom]

引用自 ✯Comrade Tiedanski 五月天：

引用自 RedSector73：

What is the Waffenträger then ?

A TD that has paper armour but actually existed with two prototype variants...

*3 prototypes.

[83athom]

引用自 kamikazi21358：

After the Swedish tree is implemented in the future, perhaps the Strv could be a ultra rare even tank just like the E-100? Since it is just like the E-100: hull was built, turret existed too, never put together.

Technically that describes quite a few vehicles in the German tech tree now (Panther II, Coelian, Kugelblitz, Tiger 10,5cm, Tiger Sla16, Dicker Max).

[kamikazi21358]

引用自 83athom：

引用自 kamikazi21358：

After the Swedish tree is implemented in the future, perhaps the Strv could be a ultra rare even tank just like the E-100? Since it is just like the E-100: hull was built, turret existed too, never put together.

Technically that describes quite a few vehicles in the German tech tree now (Panther II, Coelian, Kugelblitz, Tiger 10,5cm, Tiger Sla16, Dicker Max).

Panther II’s turret did not exist at all (nor could it), Gaijin gave indication as mentioned of removing it hopefully. Personally I hope something like - people who already own it will keep it. Perhaps a premium version could be added as a rank 4 premium/event, but with the produced Panther G turret or something.

Tiger II 10.5cm also gave indication of potential future removal, hopefully they will follow through as none were made, and the tank really couldn’t even really be that combat effective.

Coelian didn’t exist either, only a wooden mock-up built. I am hoping this is the next tank to get a big fat target on it...


Kugelblitz was made, unofficial but some of the prototypes may have actually been used, including the battle of Berlin.

Tiger II Sla16 had a prototype made.

Dicker Max, along with the Sturer Emil, had 2 made each, which did participate in combat on the Eastern Front; I would have preferred them to be premiums, but I guess they’re tolerable.

[83athom]

引用自 kamikazi21358：

引用自 83athom：

Technically that describes quite a few vehicles in the German tech tree now (Panther II, Coelian, Kugelblitz, Tiger 10,5cm, Tiger Sla16, Dicker Max).

Panther II’s turret did not exist at all (nor could it), Gaijin gave indication as mentioned of removing it hopefully. Personally I hope something like - people who already own it will keep it. Perhaps a premium version could be added as a rank 4 premium/event, but with the produced Panther G turret or something.

IIRC it did have 3 turrets made (different from the ones that went on the Panther F) but were destroyed enroute when the train carrying them got attacked by allied attack aircraft

引用自 kamikazi21358：

Tiger II 10.5cm also gave indication of potential future removal, hopefully they will follow through as none were made, and the tank really couldn’t even really be that combat effective.

Not my point though. Everything proposed for the upgrade was already there (including the gun and ammo) but it just was never put together).

引用自 kamikazi21358：

Coelian didn’t exist either, only a wooden mock-up built. I am hoping this is the next tank to get a big fat target on it...

Everything was built but the turret assembly (it was on a Panther chassis after all). I honestly wouldn't mind it so much if they actually balanced the damn thing. Seriously, wtf were they thinking making it the same BR as the M42, a measurably worse vehicle?

引用自 kamikazi21358：

Kugelblitz was made, unofficial but some of the prototypes may have actually been used, including the battle of Berlin.

True, but IIRC they were incomplete vehicles not fully assembled, and 1-2 of the 5 had 20mm guns as they ran out of the Mk108s.

引用自 kamikazi21358：

Tiger II Sla16 had a prototype made.

But not as how its represented in game.

引用自 kamikazi21358：

Dicker Max, along with the Sturer Emil, had 2 made each, which did participate in combat on the Eastern Front; I would have preferred them to be premiums, but I guess they’re tolerable.

Again, both prototypes being a bit different to what we have in game though. But they are tolerable as the changes aren't over the top and are quite reasonable.

[Obamenau]

引用自 kamikazi21358：

After the Swedish tree is implemented in the future, perhaps the Strv could be a ultra rare even tank just like the E-100? Since it is just like the E-100: hull was built, turret existed too, never put together. In fact more than just 1 turret was made but not assembled, and they actually planned on putting it together unlike the E-100 and Maus Turret. So like said, perhaps another extremely rare 1000 given at a time only event vehicle from tournaments?

From what I know the gun of the Kranvagn was never completed.

[SwedishStyle97]

Either a Event tank or 1000 given away. Would be good imo to add the Strv K to the tree/premium. So we could take away the Strv 101 (basically a Centurion Mk.10) so we have something different then just a Centurion. Imo

[RetroRun]

Kamikazi1358 you are really a unfun guy, nothing wrong with few absurd prototype in game.

And don't start with WOT, it's a cancer on another level. This game could really use prototypes vehicles given solely as event vehicles or limited amounts as GE

[kamikazi21358]

引用自 83athom：

引用自 kamikazi21358：

Panther II’s turret did not exist at all (nor could it), Gaijin gave indication as mentioned of removing it hopefully. Personally I hope something like - people who already own it will keep it. Perhaps a premium version could be added as a rank 4 premium/event, but with the produced Panther G turret or something.

IIRC it did have 3 turrets made (different from the ones that went on the Panther F) but were destroyed enroute when the train carrying them got attacked by allied attack aircraft

They mounted 7.5cm however, the turret cannot physically fit the 8.8cm gun. The X-ray in game shows the gun breech unhistorically small in the turret, as the turret would not be able to fit the gun. As well, these turrets were after the development and cancellation of the Panther II: the Panther II predates the schullturm development.

引用自 83athom：

引用自 kamikazi21358：

Tiger II 10.5cm also gave indication of potential future removal, hopefully they will follow through as none were made, and the tank really couldn’t even really be that combat effective.

Not my point though. Everything proposed for the upgrade was already there (including the gun and ammo) but it just was never put together).

There is a difference though - the Maus turret works, the Tiger II mitt 10.5cm wouldn’t. Cramming those 4 people in a 3 person turret with a gun that big most likely would probably result in one of the loaders fixing the 3 man turret holding 4 people problem by going back to a 3(.5) men in the turret. The difference is the turret existed, in one piece, and was operational - the 10.5cm Tiger never had a complete model built, nor a complete turret.

引用自 83athom：

引用自 kamikazi21358：

Coelian didn’t exist either, only a wooden mock-up built. I am hoping this is the next tank to get a big fat target on it...

Everything was built but the turret assembly (it was on a Panther chassis after all). I honestly wouldn't mind it so much if they actually balanced the damn thing. Seriously, wtf were they thinking making it the same BR as the M42, a measurably worse vehicle?

1. It does actually have some armor, which is probably why it’s 6.7.

2. You’re moving the goal post.

I vote we have the Landkreuzer P.1000 Ratte now - I mean, the 28cm gun naval turret did exist, and the steel and U-boat engines did exist to build it....

引用自 83athom：

引用自 kamikazi21358：

Kugelblitz was made, unofficial but some of the prototypes may have actually been used, including the battle of Berlin.

True, but IIRC they were incomplete vehicles not fully assembled, and 1-2 of the 5 had 20mm guns as they ran out of the Mk108s.

5-6, so 3-4 MK 108 versions did exist. And they were used in combat, one was used in the defense of a German town on the Western Front, and a couple were possibly used in Berlin.

Produced? A few.
Used? Yes.

E-75 now:
Produced? No.
Used? I don’t think throwing a piece of paper at a T-34 would do much, maybe if the commander was sticking his head out he could *maybe* get a nasty paper cut.

引用自 83athom：

But not as how its represented in game.

What is the engine output of the ingame Sla?

引用自 83athom：

引用自 kamikazi21358：

Dicker Max, along with the Sturer Emil, had 2 made each, which did participate in combat on the Eastern Front; I would have preferred them to be premiums, but I guess they’re tolerable.

Again, both prototypes being a bit different to what we have in game though. But they are tolerable as the changes aren't over the top and are quite reasonable.

The Ferdinand is not accurate either: I tried to climb a hill the other day and my engine didn’t blow up and aggressively catch fire.

[83athom]

引用自 Verniy：

Kamikazi1358 you are really a unfun guy, nothing wrong with few absurd prototype in game. This game could really use prototypes vehicles given solely as event vehicles or limited amounts as GE

... wut? Do you not notice the existing prototype vehicles in game? Do you not understand the difference between a prototype that was even partialy built to vehicles that litteraly never made it off of a drawning on a peice of paper?

[kamikazi21358]

引用自 Mindstream：

引用自 kamikazi21358：

After the Swedish tree is implemented in the future, perhaps the Strv could be a ultra rare even tank just like the E-100? Since it is just like the E-100: hull was built, turret existed too, never put together. In fact more than just 1 turret was made but not assembled, and they actually planned on putting it together unlike the E-100 and Maus Turret. So like said, perhaps another extremely rare 1000 given at a time only event vehicle from tournaments?

From what I know the gun of the Kranvagn was never completed.

It is exactly like the E-100 though - like 10 or so turrets were made, and the hull was completed (and sitting in a museum right now), they just were never put together. Just like the E-100’s hull and Maus turret. Why I suggested it as a ultra rare event/tournament vehicle.

[kamikazi21358]

引用自 Verniy：

And don't start with WOT, it's a cancer on another level. This game could really use prototypes vehicles given solely as event vehicles or limited amounts as GE

I have nothing wrong with prototypes, except:

-when in the main tree, and not as a premium/event vehicle, unless they have absolutely no other option for in the main tree like some Japanese or French prototypes, or if it is a large production of prototypes like 10-20+ protos. If it was used in combat, like the Emil and Max, I don’t like it but it could be worse.

-vehicles that don’t exist or could not exist, the E-100 is the most extreme example as both parts did exist but not put together, but since it is the rarest vehicle in game it could be worse. The Strv K can be in game though since the E-100 is, as it is a more realistic option to have over the E-100 even; so perhaps as the 2nd rarest vehicle in game would be fine. (Although to be 100% honest, despite hate I will get from this, I personally would have rather have seen the Maus as the event vehicle, and the E-100 and Strv to not be in game. But too late.). But some quick facts though:
The E75 never existed
The Panther II never fully existed nor could it in it’s current configuration.
The Tiger II 10.5cm never existed.
The R2Y2s never existed.
The Coelian never existed.

-thankfully, of the vehicles listed, 1 is not in game, and 3 I listed were targeted by Gaijin. One I am still waiting...

[RetroRun]

引用自 83athom：

引用自 Verniy：

Kamikazi1358 you are really a unfun guy, nothing wrong with few absurd prototype in game. This game could really use prototypes vehicles given solely as event vehicles or limited amounts as GE

... wut? Do you not notice the existing prototype vehicles in game? Do you not understand the difference between a prototype that was even partialy built to vehicles that litteraly never made it off of a drawning on a peice of paper?

I know the difference, and I also know that this is a damn game not real life

[ODINMASTER]

maybe if/when they remove the panther II and 105mm tiger they will replace the tiger with it.

Or hopefully they add it soon. I want another non-top tier german tank.

[RetroRun]

引用自 kamikazi21358：

引用自 Verniy：

And don't start with WOT, it's a cancer on another level. This game could really use prototypes vehicles given solely as event vehicles or limited amounts as GE

I have nothing wrong with prototypes, except:

-when in the main tree, and not as a premium/event vehicle, unless they have absolutely no other option for in the main tree like some Japanese or French prototypes, or if it is a large production of prototypes like 10-20+ protos. If it was used in combat, like the Emil and Max, I don’t like it but it could be worse.

-vehicles that don’t exist or could not exist, the E-100 is the most extreme example as both parts did exist but not put together, but since it is the rarest vehicle in game it could be worse. The Strv K can be in game though since the E-100 is, as it is a more realistic option to have over the E-100 even; so perhaps as the 2nd rarest vehicle in game would be fine. (Although to be 100% honest, despite hate I will get from this, I personally would have rather have seen the Maus as the event vehicle, and the E-100 and Strv to not be in game. But too late.). But some quick facts though:
The E75 never existed
The Panther II never fully existed nor could it in it’s current configuration.
The Tiger II 10.5cm never existed.
The R2Y2s never existed.
The Coelian never existed.

-thankfully, of the vehicles listed, 1 is not in game, and 3 I listed were targeted by Gaijin. One I am still waiting...

That's what I said, being available as event vehicles, and of all the drama of their removals, I don't think they are going to remove it at all.
They were just thinking about it,.and I hope they just stop there