Why is there uptier in every match?

[thebakedtoast]

Russia 5.7? Hello RU251!
America 5.3? Hello Centurion Mk1!

Either let me downtier every once in a while or ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ disable it.

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

Uptier system was what made me rush and grind as fast as i could to the top, once you reach 10.0, uptier problems end there cause you have the best machines.
I have 4 nations at toptier and only play toptier, i really dont miss lower tiers:)

[thebakedtoast]

Originally posted by DarkFenix:

Originally posted by Backtoast:

Yea sure, whatever you think buddy.

It was your example, you whined about a 0.3 uptier, which not only means a 0.7 downtier too, but is the smallest possible uptier. If you're crying about even the smallest uptier it's possible to have, the only logical conclusion is that you won't be happy unless you're literally top of the battle.

Because i get nothing else but uptier. No normal tier or downtier, just uptier, every match.

[SlipNSlyde]

Personally I think it is to hide German bias.

The BR system is a fraud.
A BR of say 3.0 implies but does not guarantee that you will get as many 4.0 matches as 2.0 matches. But this is not the case!

If they added a stat for each vehicle called RBR or Real BR, which showed the actuall BR that you have had with said vehicle on average, then it would expose that USA vehicles get uptiered more often than Germans. It would also show that some players get better matchmaking than others. Which is why they will never show Real BR!

German 4.3 planes for example have an average RBR of around 3.7 since all allied 3.3 planes get pulled up to fight 4.3 Germany constantly.

German 5.7 planes have an average RBR of about 5.0 since D30s see nothing but TA152s and 109K4s.

Flip it around and do insanely popular German 4.3 fighters regularly face P51 D30s? Nope. They don't! They face 3.3 and 3.7 P38s and Corsairs.

The matchmakig does not guarantee that you will match at your stated BR on average. And it should!

[Intrspace]

Originally posted by Backtoast:

Because i get nothing else but uptier. No normal tier or downtier, just uptier, every match.

I think you don't understand how BR works. I'll explain it with an example.

If you're playing with a 5.7 line-up, then these are all the BR ranges you may face at a time:
4.7 - 5.7 (full downtier)
5.0 - 6.0 (0.3 uptier)
5.3 - 6.3 (0.7 uptier)
5.7 - 6.7 (full uptier)

So even on a 0.3 uptier, you are still (theoretically) in a higher BR tank or plane than most people that match

[SlipNSlyde]

Originally posted by Intrspace:

Originally posted by Backtoast:

Because i get nothing else but uptier. No normal tier or downtier, just uptier, every match.

I think you don't understand how BR works. I'll explain it with an example.

If you're playing with a 5.7 line-up, then these are all the BR ranges you may face at a time:
4.7 - 5.7 (full downtier)
5.0 - 6.0 (0.3 uptier)
5.3 - 6.3 (0.7 uptier)
5.7 - 6.7 (full uptier)

So even on a 0.3 uptier, you are still (theoretically) in a higher BR tank or plane than most people that match

But as I explained you will never know what your average BR was for a given vehicle over say 50 matches becasue Gaijin doesn't want you to know. Because it's used to rig the game.

[thebakedtoast]

Originally posted by Intrspace:

Originally posted by Backtoast:

Because i get nothing else but uptier. No normal tier or downtier, just uptier, every match.

I think you don't understand how BR works. I'll explain it with an example.

If you're playing with a 5.7 line-up, then these are all the BR ranges you may face at a time:
4.7 - 5.7 (full downtier)
5.0 - 6.0 (0.3 uptier)
5.3 - 6.3 (0.7 uptier)
5.7 - 6.7 (full uptier)

So even on a 0.3 uptier, you are still (theoretically) in a higher BR tank or plane than most people that match

The only thing i see is uptier though

[s T i L L]

the reason why i dont play this anymore. u grind and grind hundred of hours for a better tank.
then u get matched with even higher tanks. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game. they want u to pay for premium tanks

[jcraig2128]

the game is rigged sp much it's a joke! yet I stillplay, and I've put in so many hours and the reason being, is I don't ike to be beaten and I need to win! If that wasn't the case, I would never play such a fixed rigged ridiculous game, ever!!

[Furina De Fontaine]

5.7 and 6.7 are the two ranks you get uptiered the most, so that sounds more like your own fault than the game's

[timdekeyser6]

try to play german br 5.7 at rb, uptiering every single time almost, my record is 22 matches uptiered in a row...

[thebakedtoast]

Originally posted by timdekeyser6:

try to play german br 5.7 at rb, uptiering every single time almost, my record is 22 matches uptiered in a row...

I know

[amIbothered]

Forget" vacuums" forget "black holes" and forget waiting times the reason Gaijin invariably slip at least a couple of far superior vehicles into your match is to make u want better vehicles or as they put it "to encourage u to advance in the game" I:E hopefully spend some money. You can find the encourage u quote in devs Q & A if u dont beleive it and can be bothered to look I read it about a year ago and have refused to play uptiers ever since.

[Dakota]

BR blackholes are the main issue. Places like 9.0 and up are always 10.0 matches, 4.7 often gets put at 5.7 and 5.7 often gets put at 6.7. You generally will want to be playing BRs that end in .3 and .0 for best time. Playing at 7.0 US I generally get downtiered to fight Tiger IIs at 6.7 and in uptiers its just Maus and Leopard 1s which aren't too bad to deal with since one has super high armor but still gets penned by HVAP to the turret while being slow and its gun has trouble penning stuff and the other gets oneshotted by everything while only using HEAT mostly which takes a lot of shots to kill things.