Warthunder Naval Progression is Bad

[Luxaeterna]

First and foremost I am "fine" with the long grind in WT, I grinded around 6 jets in my on and off from this game, outside of steam.

In Aircraft and Ground Forces and even Helicopters, your grind/progression rank is based on the era of the tanks or aircraft. Like from biplanes -> BF109s/Spitfires/Zeros -> Jets. This progression applies to the "4" classes/line of aircraft the fighters, heavy fighters, "ground" attack, and bombers. Or the "5" classes of grind for tanks light tank, medium tank, heavy tank, Tank destroyer, AntiAircraft Platform. From Armored Wagon -> No angle tanks with heavy armor -> Guided Missile Launcher with impenetrable ceramic armor. The balance on how strong the machines are based on the Battle Rating.


Rank 1 - Before World War 2

Rank 2 - Early World War 2

Rank 3 - Mid World War 2

Rank 4 - Post/Late World War 2

Rank 5 - Start Cold War

Rank 6 - Cold War

The current naval progression is different as its ranked is based on how big the ship is:

Rank 1 - River Patrol/Torpedo Boats

Rank 2 - Coastal Patrol-Torpedo Boats/Barges

Rank 3 - Corvettes/Frigates

Rank 4 - Destroyers/Light Cruisers

Rank 5 - probaby Heavy Cruisers/Battlecruisers

Rank 6 - probably Battleships

I am not okay with this progression. What I have expected to play in a US Capital Ship example if by history line:

Rank 1 Tennessee class

Rank 2 Nevada/New York class

Rank 3 New Mexico/Colorado class

Rank 4 North Carolina class

Rank 5 Iowa class

Rank 6 Missouri (Iowa with missle launchers upgrade)

Because of this I am going to give the naval forces a pass and stick to World of Warships if I want to play with Capital Ships. Gaijin I know you officially said you dont listen to player suggestion but please make Naval progression similar to how Tanks and Aircraft are grinded which are by time in history rather than the size of the ship.

[ALSO]

at rank 5-6, where Battleship, Battlecruisers and Heavy Cruiser are will have a queu times of 15+ minutes

[Salami Tsunami]

It literally just went public. Why don't you wait a while and see what develops?

[83athom]

Then there would be 0 reason to get any boats if you could just start off with BBs, BCs, CAs, etc.

[Luxaeterna]

literally you guys should call out Gaijin on this, you get to play all the classes of tanks and aircraft at any rank then suddenly you are okay by being forced to play patrol boats and grind by the size of the ship?

[Luxaeterna]

83athom eredeti hozzászólása:

Then there would be 0 reason to get any boats if you could just start off with BBs, BCs, CAs, etc.

From your experience is everyone in WoWS queuing BB only? Gaijin could have implemented "X" points to spawn a BB.

[83athom]

Luxaeterna eredeti hozzászólása:

83athom eredeti hozzászólása:

Then there would be 0 reason to get any boats if you could just start off with BBs, BCs, CAs, etc.

From your experience is everyone in WoWS queuing BB only?

Pretty much yeah.

[Maki Nishikino]

Luxaeterna eredeti hozzászólása:

83athom eredeti hozzászólása:

Then there would be 0 reason to get any boats if you could just start off with BBs, BCs, CAs, etc.

From your experience is everyone in WoWS queuing BB only? Gaijin could have implemented "X" points to spawn a BB.

What works in that game wouldn't work in WT for a couple of reasons.

[Luxaeterna]

Maki Nishikino eredeti hozzászólása:

Luxaeterna eredeti hozzászólása:

From your experience is everyone in WoWS queuing BB only? Gaijin could have implemented "X" points to spawn a BB.

What works in that game wouldn't work in WT for a couple reasons.

which are? have they actually change the progression from the 2+ year beta?

[83athom]

Luxaeterna eredeti hozzászólása:

Maki Nishikino eredeti hozzászólása:

What works in that game wouldn't work in WT for a couple reasons.

which are? have they actually change the progression from the 2+ year beta?

Well for one stats aren't arbitrarily handed out which lets small boats tank large rounds. Secondly WoWS doesn't handle scale or ranging the same. Also ships/boats there get unlimited torpedoes on the go where here they don't.

[Luxaeterna]

83athom eredeti hozzászólása:

Luxaeterna eredeti hozzászólása:

which are? have they actually change the progression from the 2+ year beta?

Well for one stats aren't arbitrarily handed out which lets small boats tank large rounds. Secondly WoWS doesn't handle scale or ranging the same. Also ships/boats there get unlimited torpedoes on the go where here they don't.

Why didnt they use the spawn X points to spawn DD/CL/BB method WT have been using

[Salami Tsunami]

Well, other than torpedoes, nothing on a PT boat would cause any concern to a cruiser or heavier. And although you'd have a hell of a time hitting a PT boat with a 12 inch gun, the antiaircraft batteries on a heavier ship would give the PT boat no chance, even at range.

Because size matters. It's almost like a PT boat or a DD would be at a disadvantage against a ship literally three or more times its size.

[Luxaeterna]

Look I believe you played the game long enough and saw the maps are designed to give PT/Torpedo boats a chance to fight back with to ambush from shallow waters without needing wargaming stealth technology. Hell even in the battle of the philippines both Japan and US used torpedo boats and patrol boat to harass Cruisers and Battleships.

[Maki Nishikino]

Luxaeterna eredeti hozzászólása:

Maki Nishikino eredeti hozzászólása:

What works in that game wouldn't work in WT for a couple reasons.

which are? have they actually change the progression from the 2+ year beta?

Lobbing shells out 15+ miles? You will not even see your target a good part of the time. Maps are way too small. Battles would have to last hours.

[Luxaeterna]

Maki Nishikino eredeti hozzászólása:

Luxaeterna eredeti hozzászólása:

which are? have they actually change the progression from the 2+ year beta?

Lobbing shells out 15+ miles? You will not even see your target a good part of the time. Maps are way too small.

maps also have shallows at most capture points which capital ships cannot access and have plenty of islets made for small ship ambushes. not to mention tunnel vision of BB/CL captains.

[Luxaeterna]

Hey tell me are you guys actually enjoying patrol boats? Are you fine with the idea of grinding with biplanes? or tankettes?

[Maki Nishikino]

Luxaeterna eredeti hozzászólása:

Maki Nishikino eredeti hozzászólása:

Lobbing shells out 15+ miles? You will not even see your target a good part of the time. Maps are way too small.

maps also have shallows at most capture points which capital ships cannot access and have plenty of islets made for small ship ambushes. not to mention tunnel vision of BB/CL captains.

What does that have to do with what I said?