The T26E1 is TERRIBLE

[tickle my pickle]

Compare it to a Tiger II P of the same battle rating. The Tiger II P has: A much better gun, much much much better hull armor, and has better speed by far. Honestly, it is terrible. Medium tanks that is faces cannot be penetrated in the hull (Such as the T-44), and they can go straight through it, A HEAVY TANK.

[Vyrex]

yeah dont play with it lol

[Blunder Bro]

Originally posted by i did inbred with your mom xd:

Compare it to a Tiger II P of the same battle rating. The Tiger II P has: A much better gun, much much much better hull armor, and has better speed by far. Honestly, it is terrible. Medium tanks that is faces cannot be penetrated in the hull (Such as the T-44), and they can go straight through it, A HEAVY TANK.

Its not bad at its new BR. Learn to use it. It is trolly and neither tanks is super fast with no mods.

That's why you aim for t44 turret or lower plate. Same with TIger 2 P.

No it's not the fastest tank at 6.3. (But it is usable, eapecially with mods. No it's not the most armoured (but it is trolley, and if paper tanks can survive at their BRs, so can you if you are smart). No it's gun isn't the best (but it's not bad). No its not the best tank at 6.3 (but it is usable enough to be worth it in a lineup)



Get gud. Have some salt. I can't use emoji salt on my phone for some reason, but I'll give you some later from my personal supply.

[tickle my pickle]

Sexy, you are seriously ignoring the points I made. It is directly inferior to, for example, a tiger ii P in every way. It isn't get gud. It is far worse armor far worse gun (1.5x reload, 30 mm less pen aphe... wtf?), and far worse mobility. I have both of these tanks, and I can tell you from experience that the t26e1 needs to go down to 6.0.

[Blunder Bro]

Originally posted by i did inbred with your mom xd:

Sexy, you are seriously ignoring the points I made. It is directly inferior to, for example, a tiger ii P in every way. It isn't get gud. It is far worse armor far worse gun (1.5x reload, 30 mm less pen aphe... wtf?), and far worse mobility. I have both of these tanks, and I can tell you from experience that the t26e1 needs to go down to 6.0.

Not ignoring it, thats why i say kt iant the beat tank, but its not the worst. Its gun isn't far worse.

Maybe, but I would argue that with its trolley armour and decent pen, that it is on par with the IS2 1944.

You just can't use it. It isn't a throw it at the enemy brawl tank like the Tiger 2 P, and even that has a bad turret which I would say is worse than the T26-E1. You need to learn how to use it.

[uɐɐılʎʇs]

Originally posted by i did inbred with your mom xd:

Sexy, you are seriously ignoring the points I made. It is directly inferior to, for example, a tiger ii P in every way. It isn't get gud. It is far worse armor far worse gun (1.5x reload, 30 mm less pen aphe... wtf?), and far worse mobility. I have both of these tanks, and I can tell you from experience that the t26e1 needs to go down to 6.0.

You cant make direct comparisons with 2 tanks at the same BR and automatically come to the conclusion that ones BR needs to be lowered.

They arent equal, but they are pretty comparible. Its closer to those at its BR then it would be if lowered. A 0.3 change in BR can be quite a lot.
Most the heavy tanks fall at 4.0, 4.7, 5.7, 6.3, 6.7 around that range, and for a good reason, so heavies are frequently seen on all nations at the same BRs. There are basically only a few TDs and Light vehicles at 6.0.

The tanks at 4.0/5.0/6.0 are there because they rarely face a full +1.0 BR spread well, and due to the lack of options at these BRs when they are fully uptiered they generally only face lights/TDs etc at max BR higher. They still face good heavies .7 above them and the occasional heavy with big weaknesses at 1.0 above(mainly the 6.0s facing 7.0) and the KV2B at 5.0 being faced by 4.0s(a little harder to kill).

By moving the t26 down to 6.0 they can now face those 5.0s that will struggle. Having that tank facing 5.0s just breaks multiple tanks games just for the sake of 1 tank. And thats the big issue with a fair few tanks that dont really have a good place.
Move 1 tank to make it perform better and you affect a whole bunch of tanks. That just doesnt make sense, creates an even less balanced game.

It also wont alter the regularity of battles against tigers, so to attempt to fix 1 tank with the comparison you gave it gets a result of the occasional potential steamroll game at the expense of multiple tanks, all while still facing the tiger 90% of the time which is apparently a problem for you.

Heavy tank doesnt always mean it can take a ton of hits either, look at the ARL at 4.0. It performs like a huge medium. It also cant be lower as a full downtier already it can run riot.

Due to BR compression/1.0 MM spread some tanks/aircraft just dont have a nice spot.

[tickle my pickle]

The turret on the Tiger II P is actually very bouncy, anywhere but that small flat portion will typically result in a bounce. And yes, the gun is a lot worse. Over 1.5x the reload time. 30 MM less pen. It is a lot worse. Do not BS me on that dude. The spaced armor doesn't even work against HEAT rounds. If a tank is worse than another tank in every way and they are designed for the same purpose, it simply should be at a lower BR. This being said, yes, I do know how to use it. I have about a 2:1 KD ratio.

[Blunder Bro]

Originally posted by i did inbred with your mom xd:

The turret on the Tiger II P is actually very bouncy, anywhere but that small flat portion will typically result in a bounce. And yes, the gun is a lot worse. Over 1.5x the reload time. 30 MM less pen. It is a lot worse. Do not BS me on that dude. The spaced armor doesn't even work against HEAT rounds. If a tank is worse than another tank in every way and they are designed for the same purpose, it simply should be at a lower BR. This being said, yes, I do know how to use it. I have about a 2:1 KD ratio.

I am going to stop argueing with this salty kid. He doesn't understand that 30mm less pen is not a lot. Also that it has solid shot. It's spaced armour can also act as triple armour in some spots. He clearly doesn't know how to use it properly or how to counter Tiger 2 Ps.

[Vyrex]

Originally posted by Sexy Vorta:

Originally posted by i did inbred with your mom xd:

The turret on the Tiger II P is actually very bouncy, anywhere but that small flat portion will typically result in a bounce. And yes, the gun is a lot worse. Over 1.5x the reload time. 30 MM less pen. It is a lot worse. Do not BS me on that dude. The spaced armor doesn't even work against HEAT rounds. If a tank is worse than another tank in every way and they are designed for the same purpose, it simply should be at a lower BR. This being said, yes, I do know how to use it. I have about a 2:1 KD ratio.

I am going to stop argueing with this salty kid. He doesn't understand that 30mm less pen is not a lot. Also that it has solid shot. It's spaced armour can also act as triple armour in some spots. He clearly doesn't know how to use it properly or how to counter Tiger 2 Ps.

Well theres no reason to argue someone who uses their own k/d as a argument. Besides he got ban anyway lol.

[saymyname]

Lol thank god, thos stupid thread spam ended

[Kiwibom]

Originally posted by i did inbred with your mom xd:

Sexy, you are seriously ignoring the points I made. It is directly inferior to, for example, a tiger ii P in every way. It isn't get gud. It is far worse armor far worse gun (1.5x reload, 30 mm less pen aphe... wtf?), and far worse mobility. I have both of these tanks, and I can tell you from experience that the t26e1 needs to go down to 6.0.

you can t play a t26e1 the same way as a tiger2 p
in arcade its not useless but harder to since everyone has a marker but in rb much better even if its slower you can bouch more shots because enemys don t always know where to shoot just learn to use it
its a very good tank if you know how to use it and thats pretty much with every tank in the game
you need to know at what they are good at and awful at

[Dakota]

The thing can be penetrated by every single tank at its BR frontally all over the turret and frontal armor. Some angling is required in the hull to even block stuff. Then the gun is *somehow* worse than the long 88 in pen, filler, reloadtimes, etc, even though it realistically should be better in pen and filler while being nearly equal on reload times.

I don't see any reason to really play the super pershing much at all.

[uɐɐılʎʇs]

Originally posted by Dakota:

The thing can be penetrated by every single tank at its BR frontally all over the turret and frontal armor. Some angling is required in the hull to even block stuff. Then the gun is *somehow* worse than the long 88 in pen, filler, reloadtimes, etc, even though it realistically should be better in pen and filler while being nearly equal on reload times.

I don't see any reason to really play the super pershing much at all.

There are a lot of tanks that have no real reason to play it, having better options/BRs around that are more successful. Thats just the issue with this sort of BR compression. Some vehicles just arent worth the time.
You can still use them, and be successful, but its more of a challenge.

[Ouroboros]

Some tanks are terrible no matter what is done with them. The T26E1 is one of these.

[Blunder Bro]

Originally posted by Vyrex:

Originally posted by Sexy Vorta:

I am going to stop argueing with this salty kid. He doesn't understand that 30mm less pen is not a lot. Also that it has solid shot. It's spaced armour can also act as triple armour in some spots. He clearly doesn't know how to use it properly or how to counter Tiger 2 Ps.

Well theres no reason to argue someone who uses their own k/d as a argument. Besides he got ban anyway lol.

I wouldn't call a K/D ratio with a tank a good argyement anyway. All depends on uptier, what tanks you face, if idiot enemies drive past you even as you kill in front of them, etc.

I have had good games with 7- 14 kills with both good and okay tanks, and bad games.

2/1 isn't very good so he clearly doesn't know how to use it. Its okay, but just because you can get a kill or 2 with a tank doesn't mean much. As I said, he needs to learn how to use.

[Blunder Bro]

Originally posted by Kiwibom:

Originally posted by i did inbred with your mom xd:

Sexy, you are seriously ignoring the points I made. It is directly inferior to, for example, a tiger ii P in every way. It isn't get gud. It is far worse armor far worse gun (1.5x reload, 30 mm less pen aphe... wtf?), and far worse mobility. I have both of these tanks, and I can tell you from experience that the t26e1 needs to go down to 6.0.

you can t play a t26e1 the same way as a tiger2 p
in arcade its not useless but harder to since everyone has a marker but in rb much better even if its slower you can bouch more shots because enemys don t always know where to shoot just learn to use it
its a very good tank if you know how to use it and thats pretty much with every tank in the game
you need to know at what they are good at and awful at

Exactly.