helicopters too weak.

[BEAR]

They die to everything. I dont have a single match, where i lived while in a helo. US choppers to be exact, they need a buff.

[Nobody410]

Originally posted by Hydra | trade.tf:

i guess being able to kill MBTs from a few kilometers away is weak.

Pegi 12 go sleep.

[Omega Sirius]

Who cares, it gives SPAA something to shoot at now.

[Hydra]

Originally posted by evil-tirsha:

Originally posted by Hydra | trade.tf:

i guess being able to kill MBTs from a few kilometers away is weak.

Pegi 12 go sleep.

reported for trolling

[Nobody410]

Originally posted by Hydra | trade.tf:

Originally posted by evil-tirsha:

Pegi 12 go sleep.

reported for trolling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

[AttackerCat]

Helis aren't weak though. They are highly reflective of IRL performance. In terms of resistance (or lack thereof) to damage.

Keep in mind autocannons and MGs are the things shooting at helis here, not sporadic small arms fire. IRL LZs in Vietnam were no-go zones if the NVA or Viet-Cong had 12.7mm and 14.5mm MGs mounted nearby. The guns were extremely easy to assemble and often were makeshift AA for landing zones and just a well-aimed burst could doom any heli approaching.

Source: Xin Loi (book written by an actual Vietnam War Huey door gunner) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63584.Xin_Loi_Viet_Nam

Think about also how this doesn't even touch on 20mm and 30mm cannons that we have in WT where a click of a mouse can erase a heli.

[Ģ◊иℤ◊⚡ℤ∀муpΛй]

they really need to add air to air missiles for helicopters thats pretty much the only way they can defend themselfs from plane attacks everything else ends bad.

[coolasianinja]

while i agree that helis are weak, if you kill me from your spawn and i have enough sp to spawn in a plane, i will ruin your day for doing that. even though i know you have no choice but to do so

[Hydra]

to all the people that are saying helicopters are weak, how do you suggest they get changed? i dont think they should be able to have the same survivability as tanks.

[Inept Komodo]

Helicopters don't hover in place over active battlefields within MG range IRL for a reason...

I keep seeing players staying in one place out in the open, I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone using cover for their heli.

Protip: if the entire enemy team is in planes, maybe don't spawn as a heli?

[Ģ◊иℤ◊⚡ℤ∀муpΛй]

Originally posted by DeputyDirectorOfFunPrevention:

Helicopters don't hover in place over active battlefields within MG range IRL for a reason...

I keep seeing players staying in one place out in the open, I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone using cover for their heli.

Protip: if the entire enemy team is in planes, maybe don't spawn as a heli?

IRL they have hellfire missiles which find their target without controlling them, this is not the case in game.

[Hydra]

Originally posted by ╬Ģ◊иŽФ⚡∀mηЯΛ¥╬:

Originally posted by DeputyDirectorOfFunPrevention:

Helicopters don't hover in place over active battlefields within MG range IRL for a reason...

I keep seeing players staying in one place out in the open, I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone using cover for their heli.

Protip: if the entire enemy team is in planes, maybe don't spawn as a heli?

IRL they have hellfire missiles which find their target without controlling them, this is not the case in game.

gaijin has said that they have no interest in fire-and-forget missiles. if they can figure out a way to make them take skill then we might see them. either way, i dont see why people have issues with the current AGMs. you can peek over a mountain that is really far away from the battlefield and just fire a guided missile that can usually take out a tank in one shot. gaijin was even kind enough to make the camera lock onto targets for you so that you have no issue hitting your target. come on people, learn how to use these things properly.

[halolo39]

Originally posted by Yoshimitsu:

Problem is, just like IFV's it's hard to balance them as their actual role in war is not reflective in War Thunder, Helicopters have 4 main roles IRL.

ATGM's.
Scouting
A2A
Transport

Gaijin only covers one of these, then thinks that's balance.

Also Helicopters are supposed to be a hybrid CAS, mostly working against infantry with dumb guided Hellfires or an equivalent and plenty of HE ammo.

Backup AP ammo is nice for destroying armor IRL too and does pretty nice, but isn't ingame as far as I can see.

Also Helicopters flight model is gimped compared to what they fly like IRL.

also you'll need 2 players to control it effectively, 1 for the weapons and another to pilot. in-game it is just a glorified flying ATGM platform.

[Forgery's devil]

Originally posted by Hydra | trade.tf:

a flying ATGM carrier? what more could you ask for

it seems you dont have one ..

[☠ACA☠BBB☠]

For me, the biggest problem is that they are expensive repairs (from 12,700 to 13,700 SL) for all helicopters ..
modification of research points (from 14.00 to 160.00)

[Hydra]

Originally posted by Plaza:

Originally posted by Hydra | trade.tf:

a flying ATGM carrier? what more could you ask for

it seems you dont have one ..

i most definetely do, and have 0 issues with it