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A Toaster 2018 年 9 月 27 日 上午 6:06
fix the hull break
im sick of losing a single track or the engine and get killed immediately
remove this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ mechanic all together
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Dredd 2018 年 9 月 28 日 上午 10:54 
引用自 kamikazi21358
引用自 kiro the avenger!
As I said, this is not realistic and Gaijin knows it is not.
It is not there for realism.
It is there for the sake of gameplay.
Then remove it from RB and SB, and let the players who value the “Realistic” in “Realistic Battles” and the “Simulator” in “Simulator Battles” enjoy the game. There are already enough unrealistic issues in these gamemodes, we don’t need more arcade mechanics spilling over.

引用自 kiro the avenger!
M18s should not be harder to kill than Shermans, before hull break they were, particularly from the sides.
Then fix APHE.

There is nothing wrong with APHE, it is a realistic feature.
Leinad 2018 年 9 月 28 日 上午 11:44 
Remove hullbreak, make parts & FPE free, give everyone an Abrams. ANARCHY!? :mount:
Dredd 2018 年 9 月 28 日 下午 12:03 
引用自 Ingwerdieb
Remove hullbreak, make parts & FPE free, give everyone an Abrams. ANARCHY!? :mount:

ANARCHY :mllrrad::mllrrad:
kamikazi21358 2018 年 9 月 28 日 下午 5:45 
引用自 Dredd
There is nothing wrong with APHE, it is a realistic feature.
APHE does not perform historically:

The AP solid shot ammunition would penetrate the tank, creating a cone of shrapnel and the shell itself would break apart into several large chunks often, exactly like how it does in game.

APHE in game goes into the tank and does nearly the same thing, but when it gets to the center and explodes, the shell stops in mid air and just releases shrapnel in air, like an explosive going off inside the tank. However, this is not how APHE works:

When the shell enters the tank, it does almost exactly the same thing as solid shot, creating a cone of shrapnel. But when the APHE explodes, it is NOT designed to send shrapnel everywhere. The shell already has inertia and is still traveling; what the shell does is reaches the point and the explosion breaks apart the shell, not into several large chunks, but sends a much wider dispersion or smaller chunks in a much wider cone down the tank. However, this does NOT send pieces in a 360 degree direction nor back to the front of the tank, nor when say penetrating a cupola, this does NOT send pieces strait down.

Basically, upon penetration, both create the cone of death as spalling from the armor are sent in all directions. BUT, the difference between the shells post penetration:
Basically, solid shot is a buckshot, APHE is a bird shot. At no point, APHE does not send shrapnel in a 360 degree direction destroying everything.
solid (已封禁) 2018 年 9 月 30 日 上午 3:29 
hullbreak needs to be removed asap for if you think hullbreak dont all tanks need to have this on then if you pen a tank any tank it have hullbreak but it dont work on medium or heavy tanks and for the cry babys about the pt 76 or any other tank just shot the turret and then blast them whit bullets cuz if you can aim ther is no porblem killing any of this tanks that have the hullbreak (crying kids that sucks whit no skills) have never had any porblems about killing light or AA
Dredd 2018 年 9 月 30 日 上午 4:32 
引用自 uwsnake
hullbreak needs to be removed asap for if you think hullbreak dont all tanks need to have this on then if you pen a tank any tank it have hullbreak but it dont work on medium or heavy tanks and for the cry babys about the pt 76 or any other tank just shot the turret and then blast them whit bullets cuz if you can aim ther is no porblem killing any of this tanks that have the hullbreak (crying kids that sucks whit no skills) have never had any porblems about killing light or AA

Hullbreak is there so it doesn't have higher survivability than an actually armored vehicle.
kiro the avenger! 2018 年 9 月 30 日 上午 4:40 
引用自 uwsnake
hullbreak needs to be removed asap for if you think hullbreak dont all tanks need to have this on then if you pen a tank any tank it have hullbreak but it dont work on medium or heavy tanks and for the cry babys about the pt 76 or any other tank just shot the turret and then blast them whit bullets cuz if you can aim ther is no porblem killing any of this tanks that have the hullbreak (crying kids that sucks whit no skills) have never had any porblems about killing light or AA
Probably without realising it, you've pointed out exactly hullbreak is a good feature.
Why should you have to aim properly against lightly armoured vehicles when you don't against averagely armoured vehicles? Thin armour is supposed to be a bad thing.
Foxtrot39 2018 年 9 月 30 日 上午 5:20 
Hull break should have stayed at V1.0 where only 75mm HE/HEAT or above could instakill it
kamikazi21358 2018 年 9 月 30 日 上午 10:24 
引用自 Dredd
引用自 uwsnake
hullbreak needs to be removed asap for if you think hullbreak dont all tanks need to have this on then if you pen a tank any tank it have hullbreak but it dont work on medium or heavy tanks and for the cry babys about the pt 76 or any other tank just shot the turret and then blast them whit bullets cuz if you can aim ther is no porblem killing any of this tanks that have the hullbreak (crying kids that sucks whit no skills) have never had any porblems about killing light or AA

Hullbreak is there so it doesn't have higher survivability than an actually armored vehicle.
1. They do - to weapons that cannot penetrate their armor.
2. But they literally do at times have higher survivability.
kiro the avenger! 2018 年 9 月 30 日 下午 1:22 
Most medium tanks don't really bounce anything, their armour isn't thick enough to withstand anti-tank guns.
A lot of heavy tanks don't even have enough armour to reliably with stand anti-tank guns at anything short of long range.

All the armour on most tanks serves to do is spall and detonate APHE.
kamikazi21358 2018 年 9 月 30 日 下午 1:34 
引用自 kiro the avenger!
Most medium tanks don't really bounce anything, their armour isn't thick enough to withstand anti-tank guns.
A lot of heavy tanks don't even have enough armour to reliably with stand anti-tank guns at anything short of long range.

All the armour on most tanks serves to do is spall and detonate APHE.
What nation are you playing?
kiro the avenger! 2018 年 9 月 30 日 下午 1:39 
引用自 kamikazi21358
引用自 kiro the avenger!
Most medium tanks don't really bounce anything, their armour isn't thick enough to withstand anti-tank guns.
A lot of heavy tanks don't even have enough armour to reliably with stand anti-tank guns at anything short of long range.

All the armour on most tanks serves to do is spall and detonate APHE.
What nation are you playing?
Germany. I also like to play the Pakwagen and the JgPz.IV/70. Both of which render my point somewhat moot.

But even when I play, for example, the Panther. I don't trust it to bounce even US 76mm guns at medium ranges, let alone French, British, or Soviet guns.
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