leo 2k need to moved

[Phoneend]

it needs to be to 9.3. you cant grind russia anymore, there nothing wrong with the tank, its 1975 tank fighting 1950-1960 tanks

[OIympicAssEater]

Originally posted by Phoneend:

it needs to be to 9.3. you cant grind russia anymore, there nothing wrong with the tank, its 1975 tank fighting 1950-1960 tanks

It has no armor at all. Leopard 2k is like Leopard A1A1 with slighty better armor, better gun, and ammo.

[Mechanical_Lamb23]

No idea why they put it at 8.7 in the first place. Thats saying the KPZ70 is a more effective vehicles than the 2K whcih has near half the reload, ammo that is superior in all respects to the kpz, greater surivability, and similar agility statitics. Not sure what they were smoking when they gave it the rating it has, considering it can blow through the front of the T64B, which is argueabily the most fronatally well protected tank in the game, which sits at 9.3.

Gaijin works in mysterious way.

Anyways, theyll move it soon to at least 9. But im predicting 9.3.

[Narf]

Yeah let's give the tank with paper armor the same rating as the 64B, that makes sense... not.

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by Narf:

Yeah let's give the tank with paper armor the same rating as the 64B, that makes sense... not.

its the m18 hellcat all over again, its armour doesnt help it at its current BR so playing it at higher BRs doesnt really make a difference to it. its not like being one-shot can get any worse

EDIT:

Originally posted by Phoneend:

its 1975 tank fighting 1950-1960 tanks

seriously people stop trying to use dates to justify BR, they are not related, you dont hear people complaining about the 1953 amx13 fighting tanks from the 1930s. tanks are ballanced on capabilities not date

[Bullseye]

I agree far too mobile with one of the most powerful cannons in the game with a stabilizer running around 1 shotting everything with it's APFSDS.

Also that paper armor makes them survive a lot more penetrations then normal tanks can take.

[Lain]

You know the funniest thing? Some German players are still complaining the Leo 2K sucks. It has a 120mm RH gun at 8.7, with a 600mm pen shell at stock. Combine it with the RakPz HOT and you can pen anything. B A L A N C E

[Bogs]

It's because it has the armor of a Panzer 4, pretty much any 3.3 tank can kill it. It's only a small taste of what the poor souls playing within the 6.7 bracket have to face.

[Kay]

Originally posted by Bogs:

It's because it has the armor of a Panzer 4, pretty much any 3.3 tank can kill it. It's only a small taste of what the poor souls playing within the 6.7 bracket have to face.

Pretty much any reserve tank can kill the Raketenjagdpanzer HOT, or the Sheridan, or the Swingfire, or the falcon, should they all be reserve tier?

The UFP and turret of the 2K is very bouncy, light vehicles immediately combust on meeting one because 20mm chaingun, everything else is immediately crippled because armour doesn't exist against it, and it's faster than pretty much everything else.

[OIympicAssEater]

Originally posted by Rootin Tootin Putin:

You know the funniest thing? Some German players are still complaining the Leo 2K sucks. It has a 120mm RH gun at 8.7, with a 600mm pen shell at stock. Combine it with the RakPz HOT and you can pen anything. B A L A N C E

Well RakPz Hot don't give 2 cents for these conposite armor tank.

[Kay]

Originally posted by Lord Touch Me:

Originally posted by Rootin Tootin Putin:

You know the funniest thing? Some German players are still complaining the Leo 2K sucks. It has a 120mm RH gun at 8.7, with a 600mm pen shell at stock. Combine it with the RakPz HOT and you can pen anything. B A L A N C E

Well RakPz Hot don't give 2 cents for these conposite armor tank.

I think you mixed your idioms there, "2 cents" is offering opinions (my 2 cents on the subject... Etc.)

"doesn't give two ♥♥♥♥♥" would be closer, if you were going for "doesn't care about"

At any rate, the challenger 1, if it ever gets fixed, would be resistant to it.

[TheClownstorm]

Originally posted by Bullseye:

Also that paper armor makes them survive a lot more penetrations then normal tanks can take.

Did you just have a stroke or something?

[Botboy3]

Originally posted by TheClownstorm:

Originally posted by Bullseye:

Also that paper armor makes them survive a lot more penetrations then normal tanks can take.

Did you just have a stroke or something?

At the leopard 2k's BR it can sometimes survive due to overpen.

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by Botboy3:

Originally posted by TheClownstorm:

Did you just have a stroke or something?

At the leopard 2k's BR it can sometimes survive due to overpen.

overpen doesnt really exist as almost nothing at its teir has fused shells...

[Bullseye]

Originally posted by TheClownstorm:

Originally posted by Bullseye:

Also that paper armor makes them survive a lot more penetrations then normal tanks can take.

Did you just have a stroke or something?

Did you?

[Vriz]

A better KPZ-70 at a slightly lower BR. Yeah, because that's balanced.

To think that the Leo2k is on the same realm of capability as something like the T-55a, the M60A1 Rise, the Chieftain Mk 5, the Type 74 or the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke that is the AMX-30B2 BRENUS is a joke.

"It doesnt have armor"

So drop the Ru-251 to 2.0 or the Leopard 1 and A1A1 to 3.7. Because last time I heard, the BR was based solely on armor, not the tank's capabilities. So let's go over this!



A 5.0s+ reload tank

Stock 650mm HEAT-FS and a nerfed DM13 APFSDS a Tier 1 unlock

30 HP/Ton

70km/h max speed / -56km/h reverse

40sec degree turret traverse with a 20sec degree turret elevation speed

Spaced armor and autobounce UFP

20mm autocannon to deal with aircraft and SPAA