why the hate on arcade mode...

[Garrett]

I mean i see it alot... i know its more casual but its how i can grind and have fun and avoid toxic players unlike realism mode.

I was watching youtube videos of a guy playing arcade mode and he was gettin extreme hate in the comments of people tellin him he blows and arcade peasent and all that stuff.. like i dont get it

[LeVilGontran]

Both modes have their ups and downs. In fact, the ups and downs of any arcade/realistic game (thanks captain obvious ^^).
I like both. RB are for the thrill, AB is nice when you want to have a quick moment of fun.
Play what you like, don't bother the others for not liking the same, and don't listen to those who say you're wrong. Amen (Matthew 258:13)

To go back to the first question, there will always be haters/whiners/trolls in every game mode, but IMO the community is less toxic when the game is less...accessible. Realistic modes need more patience and skill -> less players -> less stupid LoL-type hate.
Still, I have the feeling that there are more haters than before, basically insulting the whole team each time they are in a losing team...

PS : I often hear people complaining about P2W in this game. I don't quite understand it, though. I never spent a single cent in this game, and I am able to be in the top 3 quite often in AB or RB.
to avoid being called a fanboy, I hereby give my arguments :
- premium vehicules are good, i can't deny this, but are not silver bullets. I see a lot of them with low scores during battles.
- golden eagles wagers. you may not win a lot of eagles with these, but I don't know any other game which allows a player to win premium "money" without actually paying.
- quite a lot of premium items can be grinded instead of just bought. In Elite Dangerous for example, you have to pay for every premium feature, no escape.
- the MIGHY BUSHES. you can get them in the warbond shop. oh yes you have to grind, but as you have to grind to unlock/upgrade vehicles anyway... these are not as efficient as they look, though, as narf said.
If you want to call me a fanboy, give arguments please ;)

[LeVilGontran]

Narf の投稿を引用：

There is no "when I'm ready to swap to realistic". You learn to be ready for realistic while playing realistic. Arcade can't teach you anything to make it easier. If anything, it develops bad habits which you then have to get out again. If you want to play realistic, play it.

I don't agree with you, at least for tanks. AB helped me a lot, and still helps, when you face new tanks. Less with planes, because the plane AB gameplay is a lot climb/dive/climb/dive, which will rip your wings apart in RB.
In tank battles, the "green/orange/red reticle" thing in arcade mode, and having lots of respawns (allowing you to face a lot of enemies in a single battle, and shoot a lot of shells) helps to learn the strenghts and weaknesses of every vehicle.
--> When I switched to RB, I was already able to quickly identify every tank I saw, and where to aim in order to efficiently get rid of the bastard (also which enemies I should just flee ^^). I basically used AB as a training range for ballistics and aiming. Still, I agree that the gaming style is different and one should not switch to often between AB and RB. For example, destroying the gun breech is almost useless in AB but a life-saver in RB...

[𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓁𝒾𝓃𝑒]

I agree pretty much with the above said, to go in about the premium vehicle argument simply is a result of people seeing something either perform well and dont know how to counter said vehicle, buying it instead whilst having no understanding of the vehicle itself, or perhaps even the way the game works.

Though some vehicles can be argued a bit of being quite welll, mostly known as the is6 or premium early p47's. Which in my opinion is more due to the Br placement than the vehicle itself ( these have been changed lately though )

About the part where you say that a less accisable mode means less toxic people i kind of agree and disagree, since fair enough more people will know what happened or how they died and thus take it less out on the one who got the kill, but at the same time you also get more of those who feel superior or above the other ending up in usually selfish players who fail to look in a teammates perspective and flame on about it, of which i recently had one flaming at me for not killing a tank that took them down whilst i said my gun breech, turret drive and engine were out and had no parts in chat

[Bogey]

SilentAssassin の投稿を引用：

The largest difference is the removal of the aim reticule in realistic mode (besides the obvious one of not having your name shown). If you know weakspots and can shoot in arcade, you will have no trouble shooting in realistic. I don't understand why people act like it's such a huge change from arcade. It's really not.

It's quite a difference in planes between AB and RB, but not in tanks. As you write the major one is the aim reticule, but if you have a bit of experience you already know how to aim without it. Aiming isn't the biggest difference in RB planes either btw, it's the physics. I have no problem hitting a plane, but I still tear my own wings off half the time diving ...

[Bogey]

Garrett の投稿を引用：

I mean i see it alot... i know its more casual but its how i can grind and have fun and avoid toxic players unlike realism mode.

I was watching youtube videos of a guy playing arcade mode and he was gettin extreme hate in the comments of people tellin him he blows and arcade peasent and all that stuff.. like i dont get it

I really don't understand what you are talking about. There's not much hate in WarThunder at all. It happens, but compared to other similar PvP games it's very rare. Try playing World of Tanks for a bit, or the even worse Armored Warfare. The latter has the chat filled with hateful comments in almost every single match ...

[GhostFigure]

Bogey の投稿を引用：

Garrett の投稿を引用：

I mean i see it alot... i know its more casual but its how i can grind and have fun and avoid toxic players unlike realism mode.

I was watching youtube videos of a guy playing arcade mode and he was gettin extreme hate in the comments of people tellin him he blows and arcade peasent and all that stuff.. like i dont get it

I really don't understand what you are talking about. There's not much hate in WarThunder at all. It happens, but compared to other similar PvP games it's very rare. Try playing World of Tanks for a bit, or the even worse Armored Warfare. The latter has the chat filled with hateful comments in almost every single match ...

I've seen comments on PhlyDaily and BaronVonGamez complaining and dissing why is he showcasing tanks/planes in AB mode. The only toxic players I've seen in this game is in Realistic compared to AB which is silent and no big deal if losing.

[Sarblade]

Arcade mode with tanks is kinda offensive for the human brain (really dumb) so they hate on those players. I don't care, Sim is the only "cool dude" mode anyway.

[Strixxy]

I enjoy playing both Arcade and Realistic Ground Forces. I jump over to RB when I've dunked too many hours into Arcade to start getting annoyed at being shot 2km through dense tree poluations.

RB can be a breath of fresh air for an AB player and same way the other way around. Nothing wrong with AB but annoying mechanics to make it easier for some players and harder for others.

[Haegler]

I play oretty much nothing else but AB and the couple times I tried out RB, I had pretty favourable KDRs and caps.
But I'd still stay with AB...because I cannot settle down for RB before I haven't grinded the entire german and japanese ground force and air force tree and all the modules...and for grinding AB is just so much better because you can consistently spawn three vehicles and all the matches are a lot faster so you get your rewards much faster and can quickly hop into the next match to grind.

[_3_3_3_]

If realstic mode was truly realistic you would have multiple players all working together in the same tank, tasked with doing all the different things; commander, gunner, driver, cook, banjo player etc... In it's current state, for me to play realistic and be successful at it, requires me to play in a Squad, with a microphone (so many squads make this a requirement, and if they do not state it early on like they should, they always ask you later, the bastards). A microphone is something I am not bothered with at all, because for personal reasons i'm a bit anti social tbh I will never use a microphone, discord, teamspeak, tin-can-and-strings whatever.

Finally Arcade mode will always be dissed by certain types of P2W warriors, but to come first every other game go me requires a lot of skill and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I think of it as a team filled tank, where the pressure is off me to spot my targets because someone else is doing it for me, the guy with the radio, I'm the comanda, why would I be bothered with that sh!t. It allows me to just call the shots and that really is what makes me happy at the end of the day.

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

I play only top tier 9.7 tank battles and i only play arcade, i have heard coments agaisnt me before, but they have no effect on me, i do what i like and if needed i just ignore those players that say bad things, just because others have diferent opinions and tastes, my realistic mode only "game" is my everyday life:)

[DapperSpino]

Because some Arcade players are terrible at the game and go on the forums and ♥♥♥♥♥ and ♥♥♥♥♥ about how "unbalanced" and "unfair" the game is and ruin the reputation of other Arcade players, I mean if planes going kamikaze into open vehicles is SUCH a problem, why couldn't you just go into an SPAA once the game starts and shoot down planes?

[Comrade Tiedanski 五月天]

Phly did a Video on this Arcade Player issue, but it seems it did not work I guess...

My experience in Arcade was from down right racist from a fellow arcade player first calling me a
"Yellow midget" and "Chinese Hacker" to down right offensive by just an another Arcade player calling me just a "Hacker" and reporting me, although I was never Banned :) I mean I used to get 11kills most of the time in Arcade and it was especially easy to do in low tier, I never enjoyed mid or high tier( because it was a more of a ClusterF*** than Low tier AB), but when I had like 400hrs, I decided it's time to change to RB, never switched back at that point and never looked back I guess.

Because you get called a Noob or a Camper when you whenever you killed someone, It's so much better instead of being called a hacker or using racial slurs on people for me atleast.

[Garrett]

DapperSpino の投稿を引用：

Because some Arcade players are terrible at the game and go on the forums and ♥♥♥♥♥ and ♥♥♥♥♥ about how "unbalanced" and "unfair" the game is and ruin the reputation of other Arcade players, I mean if planes going kamikaze into open vehicles is SUCH a problem, why couldn't you just go into an SPAA once the game starts and shoot down planes?

typical elitist realism mode player response kek

[G O R B A C H A V]

The reason why is because of the gameplay difference in reality. Arcade is just practically a point in click pointfest. It just doesn't feel rewarding enough for my imho. I don't feel like I'm trying to get anything. I play realistic when I want to grind and Sim for fun.