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give the germans a similar sabre you say, thats exacty what they have, they only operated the cl13 mk5 (we have ingame) and the cl13 mk 6 (the best sabre varient ever produced) so take your pick... if the cl13 wasnt visually the same as the US aircraft would you be complaining so much? its a completely different aircraft built on the same airframe and just happens to be better, thats all, but there will always be better and worse aircraft
"Why should one nation get a better aircraft, what ever happened to "balance"?"
you are seriously asking this? aircraft are different, you say in an earlier sentence that sabres are meta right nnow and right there you have answered your own question, aircraft have different performance in various characteristics and invariably some characteristics will be valued more than others by players, there are meta aircraft at every teir
"They very well could've given the Germans the CL-13 Mk 2, which has the same engine as the Sabre"
thats a canadian aircraft the germans never operated, they had rather sparse pickings after the whole debacle of losing WW2 and the mk5 is the first variant they operated.
blame the canadians for building sabres better than the US did, or US for not building the best versions of their own airframe
EDIT: it was fine back before 50cals were buffed and they were considered bad on jets so the germans had the best flight performance but inconsistant killing potential and the US had the more reliable version in the F2, alot of people considered the cl13 bad back then and the F2 top dog, this is just karmic payback for what everyone else feels about 50cals at every other teir
So your excuse for imbalance is essentially "aircraft will have different performance" "the meta" and "aircraft are different".
Where is your source on them using the Mk 5 as the first operational aircraft? I can't seem to find info on this, all it says is they used the CL-13.
But I'm done arguing, I've never been very good at it and I can see this is just gonna be back and forth with no conclusion. No hard feelings.
wikipedia is a quick and dirty source, look up canadair sabres and scroll down to operators, its says right there.
if you want something more:
source: http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/41/language/en-CA/Achtung-Saberjetz--Teaching-the-New-Luftwaffe.aspx
EDIT: and no germans and russians are not always allied and german mig15bis do have to face russian mig17s...
Let me reframe my point and explain why that's important.
A Mig-17 will climb better than a Sabre while a Sabre will maneuver better in a dive. A Hunter will outfly Mig-17 when it comes to boom and zoom but a Hunter will never be able to turn with one. All matchups are like this.
There is in all cases some kind of trade-off where one plane has strengths in one area while being weak in another in any kind of matchup and it makes fighting in different scenarios interesting. As it stands since the CL-13 is an improved copy of the F-86F-25 the F-25 holds no advantage over a CL-13. So it doesn't matter if two players of similar skill are fighting eachother in these, the results of all random scenarios would always be in favor of one of the players due to the imbalance of the vehicles.
You can say other vehicles also don't perform as well but that's not the point. They at least have a niche where they excell in certain scenarios. Because of the way matchmaking is and the way players are flocking to the CL-13 because of how well it performs F-25's will constantly be facing CL-13's so it is pretty clear the F-25 has no niche and by design is not aloud to even have one unless by miracle they don't end up fighting the CL-13waffe.
That's not a good thing. Its just poor game design and being poor game design in the endgame makes it twice as bad so it's worth commenting on.
its not poor game design so much as karmic retribution... before the 50cal buff the meta split between the superior performing but inconsistent cl13 and the slightly lesser but far better armed F2 generally went in favour of the US.. its only with the massive buff to the rest of the US line that you are now suffering the reverse of what all other US aircraft are doing to their cannon armed counterparts. once the performance gap between cannons and heavy MGs is actually ballanced i would expect them to fall back into place
Also we're talking F-25's here, not F-2's. The is no retribution for CL-13 players over F-25 players over a .50 cal problem from months ago.
the fact that other sabres at max br too is just a problem of the br system, sure they could splinter the BRs but that just causes more problems as in the jet age it is hard enough to find aircraft to fit top-teir, let alone a much more spread out Br spectrum, so say you nerf the cl13 to a higher Br, this would limit them to 4 per match which the rest of the german lineup would have to be mostly made up of mig15bis (it would be the only other german jet in range), good luck finding enough players willing to play that. simply the performance increments between your many sabres are too minor and their spreading out the BRs just to cover them introduces too many issues with matchmaking so the lesser ones having the same BRs as their superior counterparts is just a bitter pill you are going to have to swallow due to havinng too many variants available
EDIT: honestly that got a bit too messy towards the end so tldr the BR system is at fault and generally works but the US has too many sabres for them to fit cleanly and noone else has enough jets to support seperate BRs for most of them