T64B!!!

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From what i have seen on videos, i dont see how m1, leopard2k or the challenger1 will be able to pierce it face to face, like we see kpz70 or chieftain mk10 doing with apdsfs agaisnt t64a...
i could be wrong, but, i dont know im confused at this point...

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From what i have seen on videos, i dont see how m1, leopard2k or the challenger1 will be able to pierce it face to face, like we see kpz70 or chieftain mk10 doing with apdsfs agaisnt t64a...
i could be wrong, but, i dont know im confused at this point...

just flank it ;) isnt that what they always say?

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The leopard2k is the only new mbt which is able to pen the front plate T64B
heat-fs 650mm stock thaaats good.

its gonna bounce on that slope.

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The leopard2k is the only new mbt which is able to pen the front plate T64B
heat-fs 650mm stock thaaats good.

its gonna bounce on that slope.

It doesnt actually, least when I played it in live / custom / test drive on the Dev server. Even then, it'll insta-pen the turret

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its gonna bounce on that slope.

It doesnt actually, least when I played it in live / custom / test drive on the Dev server. t

no? thats interesting.

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It doesnt actually, least when I played it in live / custom / test drive on the Dev server. t

no? thats interesting.

It's because of the overmatch mechanics. The UFP of the T64b is actually lower than than the T-64a's UFP on it's outer layer (60mm to 80mm) and the Leo2k has a 120mm cannon. Completely surpasses the 1.3x of caliber to armor needed to remove the vertical bounce chance

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no? thats interesting.

It's because of the overmatch mechanics. The UFP of the T64b is actually lower than than the T-64a's UFP on it's outer layer (60mm to 80mm) and the Leo2k has a 120mm cannon. Completely surpasses the 1.3x of caliber to armor needed to remove the vertical bounce chance

ill believe it when i see it. sounds interesting though.

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It's because of the overmatch mechanics. The UFP of the T64b is actually lower than than the T-64a's UFP on it's outer layer (60mm to 80mm) and the Leo2k has a 120mm cannon. Completely surpasses the 1.3x of caliber to armor needed to remove the vertical bounce chance

ill believe it when i see it. sounds interesting though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVtn2lpUdtA

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ill believe it when i see it. sounds interesting though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVtn2lpUdtA

have to wait and see how it performs ingame when 1.77 releases.
, anything and everything on the dev server is subject to change.
so dont take what you see on the dev server as "set in stone"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVtn2lpUdtA

have to wait and see how it performs ingame when 1.77 releases.
, anything and everything on the dev server is subject to change.
so dont take what you see on the dev server as "set in stone"

With that in mind, it'd be best to withhold opinions but so far, in its current iteration. The T-64b stands as the strongest tank, the Leo2k as it's hard counter and the Abrams being the best overall tank

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have to wait and see how it performs ingame when 1.77 releases.
, anything and everything on the dev server is subject to change.
so dont take what you see on the dev server as "set in stone"

With that in mind, it'd be best to withhold opinions but so far, in its current iteration. The T-64b stands as the strongest tank, the Leo2k as it's hard counter and the Abrams being the best overall tank

Abrams best overall tank? What? The thing can barely pen the T64B with its best round whilst the latter slices through the abrams no problem.

And yes the Keiler can pen the T64B, but I wouldn't really call it a hard counter...

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With that in mind, it'd be best to withhold opinions but so far, in its current iteration. The T-64b stands as the strongest tank, the Leo2k as it's hard counter and the Abrams being the best overall tank

Abrams best overall tank? What? The thing can barely pen the T64B with its best round whilst the latter slices through the abrams no problem.

And yes the Keiler can pen the T64B, but I wouldn't really call it a hard counter...

The Abrams is one of the most mobile, most heavily armored tank currently in the Dev server. Not only that, but it also has, along with the Leo2k, the fastest RoF of 12rds/min. Which is 5s Aced.

The UFP of the T-64b is a tough nut to crack but it's not the only option to shoot at. The cannon breech armor is only 330mm of armor, even the Chieftain APDS can pen. It's unchanged from the T-64a's turret.

Not to mention, both the Abrams and Leo2k have the fastest vertical turret elevation of 20+ degrees per sec.... 20+.

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Not to mention, both the Abrams and Leo2k have the fastest vertical turret elevation of 20+ degrees per sec.... 20+.

wait i just noticed... vertical???? you mean horinzontal right? cause vertical......dont mean ♥♥♥♥.
since we are talking degrees, i assume you mean horizontal, and 20+ isnt speacial :) it nice but, T-44-100 has 20+ too, the russian panther A(T-V) has 24.

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Not to mention, both the Abrams and Leo2k have the fastest vertical turret elevation of 20+ degrees per sec.... 20+.

lol, thats nothing special, while being nice,its not special.

...What? It was broken when it was on the XYZ-70s. It made firing on the move at high speeds across different elevations like bombed out holes an actual breeze. It was one of the major nerfs to the XYZ-70s in the first place in later updates on the live server.

You honestly think moving at speeds of 60km/h across the map, with the turret traverse speed of a top tier SPAA like the Gepard, firing blowdarts at 5s Aced "isnt" special?

Where have you been in War Thunder when Tier 6 dropped when the XYZ-70s did EXACTLY that???

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Abrams best overall tank? What? The thing can barely pen the T64B with its best round whilst the latter slices through the abrams no problem.

And yes the Keiler can pen the T64B, but I wouldn't really call it a hard counter...

The Abrams is one of the most mobile, most heavily armored tank currently in the Dev server. Not only that, but it also has, along with the Leo2k, the fastest RoF of 12rds/min. Which is 5s Aced.

The UFP of the T-64b is a tough nut to crack but it's not the only option to shoot at. The cannon breech armor is only 330mm of armor, even the Chieftain APDS can pen. It's unchanged from the T-64a's turret.

Not to mention, both the Abrams and Leo2k have the fastest vertical turret elevation of 20+ degrees per sec.... 20+.

Dude sorry but you are grasping at straws. If your only option when meeting a tank is disabling it's breech, you're in a bad spot. Especially when said tank can pen you everywhere.

I would agree with you when the abrams had slightly more armor and better rounds, whilst the T64B UPF would be around 400mm effective as it should be and it wouldn't have the insane 475mm pen round.

Alternatively all MBTs should n0t have more than 420mm pen and their best armor should be around 400mm effective.
That old maje for fair and interesting gameplay.

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lol, thats nothing special, while being nice,its not special.

...What? It was broken when it was on the XYZ-70s. It made firing on the move at high speeds across different elevations like bombed out holes an actual breeze. It was one of the major nerfs to the XYZ-70s in the first place in later updates on the live server.

You honestly think moving at speeds of 60km/h across the map, with the turret traverse speed of a top tier SPAA like the Gepard, firing blowdarts at 5s Aced "isnt" special?

Where have you been in War Thunder when Tier 6 dropped when the XYZ-70s did EXACTLY that???

you were talking about abrams and leo,lets stick to that. and i say again 20 is not the highest ingame, T-44-100 has 20+, russian panther A(T-V) 24 degrees/sec.