T28 vs T95

[HauptmannTinus]

Only some slight differences between these, still the T28 remains at 6.3 and the T95 is at 7.0?

[Qifi]

T28 has 30mm of side armor. Big disadvantage, so 6.3 seems understandable

[Smetrix]

It also has a max speed of 12km/h, so by the time you get to the battle, it may be halfway over.

[StingerRPG]

Originally posted by Smetrix:

It also has a max speed of 12km/h

Both do, but the T28 has very thin sides while the T95 has at least some side armour to make some trolly ricochets. Not saying it's worth the 0.7 BR jump though

[Kay]

Originally posted by 🐺Comrade Tiedanski🐺:

Originally posted by HauptmannTinus:

Its just weird that one gets a BR increase and the other not. Would be like raising Tiger E to 6.3 and leaving H1 at 5.7.

No offense but your Logic is messed up, The tiger H and E have the same armour values except the E has APCR( which no one ever use ) and it has a track straped on the lower glacis protecting the transmission, the T95 and T28 on the other hand have completely different armour value on the sides, which I already stated it's lightly armoured side armour could be penned by 20mms.

Since you cried to my profile, maybe look at yourself in the mirror. I never insulted someone on their profile buddy, and grow some balls if ya want to call me out.

The turrets of the H1 and E are different, the E has more armour in more places than the H1.

It also has zimmerit.

The T28 has fewer tracks (easier to track) FAR thinner (and not spaced) side armour (The T95 retains the T28 sides as well as the outer armour)

[RAM AIR IV]

T95 should be 6.7
As with the Ferninand

[Kay]

Originally posted by HauptmannTinus:

Originally posted by RAM AIR IV:

T95 should be 6.7
As with the Ferninand

The thinner side armor to the T28 should be compensated for indeed like most people state but i believe the BR gap should stay the same.
And i also think T95 was fine at 6.7.

No, the tortoise is 6.7 and worse in nearly every way.

Same thing with the ferdinand, that's better than the tortoise in nearly every way

[Kay]

Originally posted by HauptmannTinus:

Originally posted by Ki'agh:

No, the tortoise is 6.7 and worse in nearly every way.

Same thing with the ferdinand, that's better than the tortoise in nearly every way

How is the Ferdi so much better than the Tortoise? It has a flat plate that can be penned by almost everything.
Also they "balance" with repair costs too, so how is a 21k repair cost for ferdi fair compaired to Tortoise?
Also T95 bunmped to 7.0 still has an insane repair cost....

The Ferdinand is 200mm flat all over the front.

The tortoise is 208mm flat cast (which has a lower armour value than the RHA front of the ferdinand) with multiple 152-100mm weakspots, all of which one-shot the tank.

[Kay]

Originally posted by HauptmannTinus:

Originally posted by Ki'agh:

The Ferdinand is 200mm flat all over the front.

The tortoise is 208mm flat cast (which has a lower armour value than the RHA front of the ferdinand) with multiple 152-100mm weakspots, all of which one-shot the tank.

In my experience Tortoise doesnt get one shot from the front much. And yes i play with it and against it.

Then you're aiming for the wrong places or unlucky.

The MG Cupola is a one-shot, the flat armour on the other side of the hull is a one-shot, the cast transmission plate is a one-shot.

[Kay]

Originally posted by HauptmannTinus:

Originally posted by Ki'agh:

Then you're aiming for the wrong places or unlucky.

The MG Cupola is a one-shot, the flat armour on the other side of the hull is a one-shot, the cast transmission plate is a one-shot.

With what gun do you shoot those spots? (Vehicle)
Because you say it like its a one shot with every vehicle that can pen it.

Anything with APHE, inlcuding the long 88mm (though the Cupola may not be a one-shot with that gun) and pretty much any other APHE round with 152mm of pen (basically all of them)

[Colonel Jason]

Originally posted by HauptmannTinus:

Originally posted by Ki'agh:

The Ferdinand is 200mm flat all over the front.

The tortoise is 208mm flat cast (which has a lower armour value than the RHA front of the ferdinand) with multiple 152-100mm weakspots, all of which one-shot the tank.

In my experience Tortoise doesnt get one shot from the front much. And yes i play with it and against it.

Then you must know that Tortoise can be penetrated through hull mg and commander cupola.Lower glacis is another story,which is biggest weakspot on the vehicle.

[AttackerCat]

Originally posted by HauptmannTinus:

Still the same for both that the front can only be penned at the trolly cupola.
If you flank it both are dead 30mm or more side...
+ T95 was at 6.7 and got uptiered to 7.0, then T28 should go from 6.3 to 6.7 too.

No. The T95 has 63mm sloped, spaced armor over 50mm flat side. Much higher survivability.

Plus, hard to call a tank with a top speed of 8mph "pay2win".

[Druckform | INSOMNIAC 3D]

Originally posted by 🐺Comrade Tiedanski🐺:

Originally posted by HauptmannTinus:

Its just weird that one gets a BR increase and the other not. Would be like raising Tiger E to 6.3 and leaving H1 at 5.7.

No offense but your Logic is messed up, The tiger H and E have the same armour values except the E has APCR( which no one ever use ) and it has a track straped on the lower glacis protecting the transmission, the T95 and T28 on the other hand have completely different armour value on the sides, which I already stated it's lightly armoured side armour could be penned by 20mms.

Since you cried to my profile, maybe look at yourself in the mirror. I never insulted someone on their profile buddy, and grow some balls if ya want to call me out.

side armor doesnt matter at 6.3 and 7.0, if a spaa is shooting at your sides you either pushed too far or that spaa has balls. If any tank sees your side you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥. They are the same tank, an extra set of tracks and a small addition of armor will not help you except for the tiny chance a spaa finds you, which they wont if you have a brain and stick with teammates

[Qifi]

Extra set of tracks and better side protection is minor difference? Difference is that T95 will not likely get killed by Flakpanzer I if flanked. Unlike T28 it has a chance to bounce-off some shots off the side and thus having better survivability. And that is not minor difference.

[Druckform | INSOMNIAC 3D]

Originally posted by Qifi:

Extra set of tracks and better side protection is minor difference? Difference is that T95 will not likely get killed by Flakpanzer I if flanked. Unlike T28 it has a chance to bounce-off some shots off the side and thus having better survivability. And that is not minor difference.

the chances of even finding an aa in battle is rare let alone one that flanked all your team and gunned for you

[Qifi]

I used SPAA just as an example. Simply put, one has 30mm of armor that literally anything will go through and the other one got somehow decent protection with ability to take some hits.

Piggy if you think SPAA's are rare encounter in the game then I'd dare to say you haven't even played the game (at least RB where SPAA is the cheapest thing you can always spawn) - especially on city maps they tend to roam through streets and to your surprise sometimes they even get behind your entire team.