The TRUTH EXPOSED of WHY Pilots LOVE Killing Ground Forces

[maxmojoman]

I have been asking why all the push back from the Fly Guys about giving Tankers their OWN Battlefield. I couldn't understand why these Fly Guys HATE Tankers having their OWN AB/RB Battlefield these posts somewhat explain Why. BUT this does NOT change the FACT that Tankers want, need, must have THEIR own Battlefield with NO Killjoy OP Aircraft Bombing/Strafing/Rocketing them off the map. Planes make many Weak Armored/Open Top/Slow Moving and Repairing Tanks/TDs USELESS. Tankers need a Game Mode Option where Ground Force Battles do NOT include Aircraft.

Read,

This does all have a whiff of " I started playing a game. I don't like it how it is, so it should be changed ".
For me, using planes in these battles is the only joy I get from planes. Air RB just does nothing for me.
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I've played Air RB for 5 years now, it was the best mode but now it's outdated as ♥♥♥♥. I haven't touch a place in Air RB for 6-7 months now, the br decompression, the lack of variety of maps/missions make this mode soporific with a 4-5 minutes of cool fighting for another soporific moment trying to get that last one who's hiding in his airfield or into the stratosphere. Gaijin has abandon this mode (like the Simulator mode who is overly neglected) and need to seriously rework this mode.

I have more fun in ground battle with a plane than in Air RB now, it's kinda sad.
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YES this is sad MOSTLY for Tankers but also for Pilots the solution is easy.

Ground Forces need a Game Mode Option where there is Ground Forces ONLY in BOTH AB and RB.

Combined Arms needs to be where BOTH Ground Forces and Aircraft are COMBINED in Battle.

Pilots need to figure out what would make Air AB/RB more interesting and fun.

These Changes need to be made in order to make WT more Fun for Tankers and Pilots.

WT is in FACT a GAME with MANY Modes to Pick from Games NEED to be FUN. ADDING a Ground Force ONLY Battlefield just like the Pilots have their OWN Battlefield is NOT Banning Pilots its just ADDING a Game Mode Option. Giving Ground Forces a Battlefield where they can learn on and enjoy using ALL Ground Forces even the Weak Armored, Open Topped, and Slow Moving Vehicles is a FUN Solution.

WT NEEDS to EVOLVE to make it FUN and FAIR for ALL.

[kamikazi21358]

kiro the avenger! původně napsal:

Happyguy22 původně napsal:

In of itself, evading CAS is an art.

What exactly is this art? You can hide, that's as far as it gets. But pilots have eyes, and RB is full of mechanics that reveal your location every time you try to participate in the game.

I personally already typed 3-4 paragraphs explaining different ways to avoid being bombed, and it works effectively for me. I am not retyping it, feel free to look back and find it yourself.

[kiro the avenger!]

I have read your advise 3-4 times.
And I have told you 3-4 times why it isn't fool proof.

I've played the game, I do do that stuff. But it doesn't stop me getting bombed. Because despite doing all of that stuff, it's still plenty easy enough for aircraft to spot and kill you.

Go and play German ~4.0, and tell me aircraft are a minor concern. Bonus points if you do it in a vehicle with less than 20mm of armour on any angle. 50 cals will eat you for breakfast.

[kamikazi21358]

kiro the avenger! původně napsal:

I have read your advise 3-4 times.
And I have told you 3-4 times why it isn't fool proof.

I've played the game, I do do that stuff. But it doesn't stop me getting bombed. Because despite doing all of that stuff, it's still plenty easy enough for aircraft to spot and kill you.

Go and play German ~4.0, and tell me aircraft are a minor concern. Bonus points if you do it in a vehicle with less than 20mm of armour on any angle. 50 cals will eat you for breakfast.

Well of course it isn’t fool proof, what did you want? 100% survival rate? You could take all the necessary steps to not get shot in a heavy tank, and you’ll still probably not have a 100% survival rate. What I described tells you how to rarely get bombed.

[kiro the avenger!]

I want to not get bombed every other game, without having to hide in a forest next to my spawn.

And as I've told you, that tactic doesn't get you rarely bombed.
Have often have to played axis tanks at ~4.0? Because I think you're an allied player. So you wouldn't get bombed, because German CAS sucks in comparison.

[Ragnarok]

Not all CAS are created the same. You are correct the American CAS is broken. Everyone agrees that the P47 in general is OP as hell. It is not the same as a A7m2 with the rockets or a german FW with the rockets or what not. Not all CAS is created the same

Blaming one particular set of aircraft on the entirety of CAS is a little weak.

[kamikazi21358]

kiro the avenger! původně napsal:

I want to not get bombed every other game, without having to hide in a forest next to my spawn.

And as I've told you, that tactic doesn't get you rarely bombed.
Have often have to played axis tanks at ~4.0? Because I think you're an allied player. So you wouldn't get bombed, because German CAS sucks in comparison.

The Panzer IV H is one of my favourite tanks in the entire game. I suggest try not to get bombed harder.

Barneys Had Enough Of You. původně napsal:

Not all CAS are created the same. You are correct the American CAS is broken. Everyone agrees that the P47 in general is OP as hell. It is not the same as a A7m2 with the rockets or a german FW with the rockets or what not. Not all CAS is created the same

Blaming one particular set of aircraft on the entirety of CAS is a little weak.

Fighter bombers in general are the strongest. Too strong compared to reality. Which is why Realistic bomb fuses and stuff would be great for the game.

[Ragnarok]

kamikazi21358 původně napsal:

kiro the avenger! původně napsal:

I want to not get bombed every other game, without having to hide in a forest next to my spawn.

And as I've told you, that tactic doesn't get you rarely bombed.
Have often have to played axis tanks at ~4.0? Because I think you're an allied player. So you wouldn't get bombed, because German CAS sucks in comparison.

The Panzer IV H is one of my favourite tanks in the entire game. I suggest try not to get bombed harder.

Barneys Had Enough Of You. původně napsal:

Not all CAS are created the same. You are correct the American CAS is broken. Everyone agrees that the P47 in general is OP as hell. It is not the same as a A7m2 with the rockets or a german FW with the rockets or what not. Not all CAS is created the same

Blaming one particular set of aircraft on the entirety of CAS is a little weak.

Fighter bombers in general are the strongest. Too strong compared to reality. Which is why Realistic bomb fuses and stuff would be great for the game.

They'd have to make sure not to gut anything though.

As I mentioned the rockets which were already nerfed. You need direct hits now and now someone suggested accuracy. Well, there goes any sort of usage for rockets unless planes got unrealistic amounts of rockets or damage.

[kamikazi21358]

Barneys Had Enough Of You. původně napsal:

kamikazi21358 původně napsal:

The Panzer IV H is one of my favourite tanks in the entire game. I suggest try not to get bombed harder.


Fighter bombers in general are the strongest. Too strong compared to reality. Which is why Realistic bomb fuses and stuff would be great for the game.

They'd have to make sure not to gut anything though.

As I mentioned the rockets which were already nerfed. You need direct hits now and now someone suggested accuracy. Well, there goes any sort of usage for rockets unless planes got unrealistic amounts of rockets or damage.

Hopefully they would nerf rocket accuracy, but raise damage, as that would be more realistic.

[Bear]

"The truth exposed of why Tank Crew love killing tanks"

[maxmojoman]

Bear původně napsal:

"The truth exposed of why Tank Crew love killing tanks"

That's is EXACTLY how it should be in Ground Force Battles, NOT OP Aircraft which are NOT Ground Forces getting EASY NO SKILL Kills on Open Top, Weak Armored, Slow Moving, Sitting Duck Repairing, Snail Reverse Speed Ground Force Vehicles. Combined Arms is the Battlefield where BOTH Aircraft and Ground Forces are COMBINED to do Battle. Tankers ONLY want what Pilots have and that's their OWN AB and RB Battlefield too. War Thunder is a Game, a Game should be FUN and Fair for ALL, without their OWN Battlefield being a Tanker is NOT as Fun as it could and should be. NOTHING needs be changed to BR like all the Fly Guys want us Tankers to believe, and even if it does WHO CARES, WT has ALWAYS tweaked its BR many times a year for many years now. SO STOP CRYING and LYING you Fly Guys about how hard it would be to make the GAME War Thunder more Fun and Fair for ALL.

[un.Casual]

maxmojoman původně napsal:

Bear původně napsal:

"The truth exposed of why Tank Crew love killing tanks"

That's is EXACTLY how it should be in Ground Force Battles, NOT OP Aircraft which are NOT Ground Forces getting EASY NO SKILL Kills on Open Top, Weak Armored, Slow Moving, Sitting Duck Repairing, Snail Reverse Speed Ground Force Vehicles. Combined Arms is the Battlefield where BOTH Aircraft and Ground Forces are COMBINED to do Battle. Tankers ONLY want what Pilots have and that's their OWN AB and RB Battlefield too. War Thunder is a Game, a Game should be FUN and Fair for ALL, without their OWN Battlefield being a Tanker is NOT as Fun as it could and should be. NOTHING needs be changed to BR like all the Fly Guys want us Tankers to believe, and even if it does WHO CARES, WT has ALWAYS tweaked its BR many times a years for many years now. SO STOP CRYING and LYING you Fly Guys about how hard it would be to make the GAME War Thunder more Fun and Fair for ALL.

That would kill mixed battles making attackers and helis useless

[maxmojoman]

un.Casual původně napsal:

maxmojoman původně napsal:

That's is EXACTLY how it should be in Ground Force Battles, NOT OP Aircraft which are NOT Ground Forces getting EASY NO SKILL Kills on Open Top, Weak Armored, Slow Moving, Sitting Duck Repairing, Snail Reverse Speed Ground Force Vehicles. Combined Arms is the Battlefield where BOTH Aircraft and Ground Forces are COMBINED to do Battle. Tankers ONLY want what Pilots have and that's their OWN AB and RB Battlefield too. War Thunder is a Game, a Game should be FUN and Fair for ALL, without their OWN Battlefield being a Tanker is NOT as Fun as it could and should be. NOTHING needs be changed to BR like all the Fly Guys want us Tankers to believe, and even if it does WHO CARES, WT has ALWAYS tweaked its BR many times a years for many years now. SO STOP CRYING and LYING you Fly Guys about how hard it would be to make the GAME War Thunder more Fun and Fair for ALL.

That would kill mixed battles making attackers and helis useless

Ground Forces having their own AB/RB Ground Force Battlefield with NO Aircraft would NOT Kill or Change ANYTHING, Aircraft and Ground Forces would STILL do Battle in Combined Arms Game Mode, SO your logic is a illogical assumption.

[Ragnarok]

kamikazi21358 původně napsal:

Barneys Had Enough Of You. původně napsal:

They'd have to make sure not to gut anything though.

As I mentioned the rockets which were already nerfed. You need direct hits now and now someone suggested accuracy. Well, there goes any sort of usage for rockets unless planes got unrealistic amounts of rockets or damage.

Hopefully they would nerf rocket accuracy, but raise damage, as that would be more realistic.

They'd have to do a HEAVY damage increase.

[dusttiger]

maxmojoman původně napsal:

I have been asking why all the push back from the Fly Guys about giving Tankers their OWN Battlefield. I couldn't understand why these Fly Guys HATE Tankers having their OWN AB/RB Battlefield these posts somewhat explain Why. BUT this does NOT change the FACT that Tankers want, need, must have THEIR own Battlefield with NO Killjoy OP Aircraft Bombing/Strafing/Rocketing them off the map. Planes make many Weak Armored/Open Top/Slow Moving and Repairing Tanks/TDs USELESS. Tankers need a Game Mode Option where Ground Force Battles do NOT include Aircraft.

Read,

This does all have a whiff of " I started playing a game. I don't like it how it is, so it should be changed ".
For me, using planes in these battles is the only joy I get from planes. Air RB just does nothing for me.
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I've played Air RB for 5 years now, it was the best mode but now it's outdated as ♥♥♥♥. I haven't touch a place in Air RB for 6-7 months now, the br decompression, the lack of variety of maps/missions make this mode soporific with a 4-5 minutes of cool fighting for another soporific moment trying to get that last one who's hiding in his airfield or into the stratosphere. Gaijin has abandon this mode (like the Simulator mode who is overly neglected) and need to seriously rework this mode.

I have more fun in ground battle with a plane than in Air RB now, it's kinda sad.
-----------
YES this is sad MOSTLY for Tankers but also for Pilots the solution is easy.

Ground Forces need a Game Mode Option where there is Ground Forces ONLY in BOTH AB and RB.

Combined Arms needs to be where BOTH Ground Forces and Aircraft are COMBINED in Battle.

Pilots need to figure out what would make Air AB/RB more interesting and fun.

These Changes need to made in order to make WT more Fun for Tankers and Pilots.

WT is in FACT a GAME with MANY Modes to Pick from Games NEED to be FUN. ADDING a Ground Force ONLY Battlefield just like the Pilots have their OWN Battlefield is NOT Banning Pilots its just ADDING a Game Mode Option. Giving Ground Forces a Battlefield where they can learn on and enjoy using ALL Ground Forces even the Weak Armored, Open Topped, and Slow Moving Vehicles is a FUN Solution.

WT NEEDS to EVOLVE to make it FUN and FAIR for ALL.

[dusttiger]

The OPTION of playing ground vehicles versus ground vehicles only, or aircraft versus aircraft
only or combined arms with both aircraft and ground vehicles mixed should be left up to the
players. Also, a pet peeve of mine are the DIE BOMBERS ( not dive bombers) who line up on
a ground vehicle in a dive and release their bomb just before they plow into the ground, killing
themselves along with their target in a pseudo-kamikaze attack. Sacrificing yourself when
your plane gets too damaged to be effective is one thing, but if you go into that dive in a
perfectly good plane with no intention of pulling out then you should not get any credit for
the kill, since you took yourself out in the process!