Crew lock is stupid, Get rid of it

[VeryWetButter]

I have never left a game intentionally, never J'ed out of a plane to not get shot down, but yet I still get crew locks do to this game's massive PL issues and stupid glitches.

Get shot down to early, have a 8 minute crew lock!
Get a bit of PL when flying low to ground and crash with no control, have another crew lock!
Load into the battle and get stuck with an infinite processing operation spawn glitch and then get sent back to main menu without even spawning, have another idiotic crew lock.

This system is broken and horribly designed, I am sick of getting screwed by PL, poorly modeled trees, weird glitches, and a bunch of other random s***. I have NEVER left a game on purpose and accepted a crew lock, so I should never have it, yet I do. Fix this horribly built system and stop making your player base suffer for once please.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

you only get crewlock if you leave the game while still having something in your lineup able to spawn, so obviously you left the game intentionally, but i do agree,crewlock sucks and i would love to see it gone.

[The Black Raven]

The benefits of crew lock outweigh the disadvantages of it in gaijins eyes. Unfortunatly for you the game doesnt give much thought to people with internet problems and there is nothing you can do except fix your internet connection.

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

It doesnt prevent players from leaving games, me for example in certain conquest maps at toptier i leave the game before it starts, i get max crewlock time that i dont even bother with that, i go and watch some youtube videos or i switch nation, simple as that...
I know plenty who do the same...
Usualy i dont leave games and stay until the end, but some conquest capzones are simply in such bad position, depending on the map that is a losse before the game starts, so the best thing to do is not to play, so yeah crewlock should be removed it wont solve anything...

[The Black Raven]

Originally posted by =VNPA= novastorm//pt\\:

It doesnt prevent players from leaving games, me for example in certain conquest maps at toptier i leave the game before it starts, i get max crewlock time that i dont even bother with that, i go and watch some youtube videos or i switch nation, simple as that...
I know plenty who do the same...
Usualy i dont leave games and stay until the end, but some conquest capzones are simply in such bad position, depending on the map that is a losse before the game starts, so the best thing to do is not to play, so yeah crewlock should be removed it wont solve anything...

Well its soposed to discourage you from leaving, it was never meant to be an unbearable punishment that will foece you to stay in, just to be anoying enough to convince some players to stick on with the game and not ragequit.

[torindechoza]

people only care about themselves. Ive been in games (some which were won by a lot of effort) where some people left because they didnt like the map.
Its similar like people afk or playing bad intentionally because they were salty on how they died.
You cannot say its a good thing to encourage this behavior, and if anything the punishment should be more severe.
Im sure that you would complain if you were in the other end.

Also it amazes me that people proudly say they are quitters. Do you want a medal for hitting the j key? want a reward for doing nothing?

[torindechoza]

going to jail annoys criminals.
punishment is meant to annoy. Its someone saying "dont do that, its poop." and slapping your hand.
The game rewards you with lions and research for sticking out. And punishes you for bailing out.
"im gonna bail out"
Theres only a limit that game design can do.

[VeryWetButter]

Originally posted by NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

you only get crewlock if you leave the game while still having something in your lineup able to spawn, so obviously you left the game intentionally, but i do agree,crewlock sucks and i would love to see it gone.

You obviously have not played this game as much as me then, Crew Lock is not just for people who leave the game early, it puts a blanket 8 minute lock on anything that is not killed by an enemy in the first 8 minutes of game. So like all of the examples I have provided above.

Why even comment on my post if you are just going to ignore what I have typed? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pathetic

[VeryWetButter]

Originally posted by torindechoza:

going to jail annoys criminals.
punishment is meant to annoy. Its someone saying "dont do that, its poop." and slapping your hand.
The game rewards you with lions and research for sticking out. And punishes you for bailing out.
"im gonna bail out"
Theres only a limit that game design can do.

This horrible crew lock system punishes legit players more than the people who leave early. You comparing this to real life Jail makes no sense at all, obviously someone who breaks the law needs to go to jail, but why implement such a harsh broken system into War Thunder. If you want to compare Crew Lock to Jail Time then you are stupid, if Jail was like Crew Lock, so many innocent people would be in jail. This is a video game, why make a system that punishes the people that support and play your game frequently?
Also in my opinion, it would be better to just have those that leave early lose twice as many silver lions as the repair cost on the vehicle. People who don't care and leave all the time will never have SL so they will not be able to buy new vehicles and people who do care won't get hit with a stupid 8 minute ban that just pisses them off.

I just would like to see some sort of attempt to make it a more full proof system so it doesn't effect the people who play the game so much. This is something that has been complained about for years and absolutely nothing has been done to attempt to fix it, that is what really pisses me off.

[Rumba]

Never had Problem with crewlock. Only Crewlock i get is after leaving nightbattles instantly

[torindechoza]

Originally posted by Johnny Banger:

You obviously have not played this game as much as me then, Crew Lock is not just for people who leave the game early, it puts a blanket 8 minute lock on anything that is not killed by an enemy in the first 8 minutes of game.

basically boils down to crash into the ground or with a teammate in air battles, rb.
Or drown if you are in tank and fall into a lake or something i guess. But who does this and why? in most of ground maps its even impossible to do.

after not very many battles you should manage to not crash by yourself. Of course if i want to be conspiratorial i may think the guy im following didnt accidentally crash to the ground and was indeed trying to deny me a kill.

ive been crewlocked because the game decided to kick me out of battle, once.
I was surprised but i have other nations so immediately got into a nother battle. Never happened again to me. I understand it must have been a bug. But other people will say gaijin evil or something.

[Slyke]

Even if you don't leave intentionally, many others do (and it keeps getting worse). If you know you have packet loss issue (many others don't), don't fly near the ground. You can make things better for yourself, or you can complain and call developers names.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

Originally posted by Johnny Banger:

Originally posted by NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

you only get crewlock if you leave the game while still having something in your lineup able to spawn, so obviously you left the game intentionally, but i do agree,crewlock sucks and i would love to see it gone.

You obviously have not played this game as much as me then, Crew Lock is not just for people who leave the game early, it puts a blanket 8 minute lock on anything that is not killed by an enemy in the first 8 minutes of game. So like all of the examples I have provided above.

Why even comment on my post if you are just going to ignore what I have typed? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pathetic

try a one vehicle lineup, get killed within 2 miuttes, you get no crewlock, you only get crewlock if you leave the game while still having something in your lineup capable of spawning. i just tested it. there is no 8 minutte blanket crewlock. if youre exclusively talking about cases of clitches and disconnects and such i apologise,my bad.

[ODINMASTER]

Originally posted by NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

you only get crewlock if you leave the game while still having something in your lineup able to spawn, so obviously you left the game intentionally, but i do agree,crewlock sucks and i would love to see it gone.

no, because he is most likely talking about air RB where you can only use a single plane

[torindechoza]

Originally posted by Mirage:

Which is exactly why crewlock is a dumb idea as people intentionally handicap themselves and thus the team in order to avoid this system.
If you want to grind efficiently you take out a single premium tank, die, and leave.. and it sucks as your team loses because of those things and legitimate players get a worse experience because of poor game design, making more and more people leave games.

if you bring another tank on top of that premium tank why didnt you spawn in it?
why is gaijin's fault that you hit go to hangar instead?
If you want to help your team then you stay. That is precisely the point.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

Originally posted by ODINMASTER:

Originally posted by NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div:

you only get crewlock if you leave the game while still having something in your lineup able to spawn, so obviously you left the game intentionally, but i do agree,crewlock sucks and i would love to see it gone.

no, because he is most likely talking about air RB where you can only use a single plane

ah i see, in that case i wont comment. it also seems op is talking about cases of glitches and disconnects and so on.