Italian Tanks Tier 1 is a joke

[Flagellum Dei]

everything on them sucks, mobility, penetration, engine, armor, the basic camo is so easy to spot.
was the italian tanks really necessary ?

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by Pacificatore:

The Tier 1 Italian tanks are all garbage, especially the M11/39, but they are still capable tanks. The biggest thing I don't understand about them however is the M13/40 reserve tanks. The M13/40 (I) has nearly double the reload timer as the M13/40 (III) despite appearing to be exactly the same. They have the same cannon and machineguns, the same armor and engine, the same interior layout, the same number of crew and the same turret drives. The M13/40 (I) is also capable of holding 17 more cannon rounds than the (III) variant.

I tried searching around to see if there was an explanation but I never came across anything.

better yet, the SPG modification that's 1.7 with the same gun, open-topped without a turret, yet somehow has a slower reload and costs more.

[Damian030303]

Early Italian tanks are pretty nice.

[Blamite Delight]

French and japanese are utter crap. The italians were at least competent in their tank design due to economical constraints.

[Pacipoodillie]

Originally posted by Maus!:

French and japanese are utter crap. The italians were at least competent in their tank design due to economical constraints.

Neither France nor Japan really had ability or reason to develop better tanks early in the war. France being one of the first nation-states involved in the war and probably still recovering from the events of WW1. Japan as far as I'm aware never had much opposition when it came to mechanized enemies since I don't believe China produced their own tanks and received/purchased very few up to the 40s.

[Stridswombat]

Originally posted by Maus!:

French and japanese are utter crap. The italians were at least competent in their tank design due to economical constraints.

French tanks were perfectly competent for what they were designed for, it was a failure of doctrine more so than anything else.

Italian tanks though... Yeah they were just bad.

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by Maus!:

French and japanese are utter crap. The italians were at least competent in their tank design due to economical constraints.

Japan was just as constrained as Italy, and I find their tank designs pretty similar until Japan starts getting heavier, though not all of them are modeled in game.

Really want to see the TD modification of the Ha-Go that took the turret off and threw the Chi Ha Kai's long 47 into the hull of it.