.50 cals beyond op

[InfiniteSpin]

As someonAs someone who primarily planes US planes and is now trying out planes from other nations, .50 have ruined that experiance for me. I see no point in playing planes with whimpy 20 and 30mm cannons when the US .50 cal can one shot most fighter planes. I just cannot see myself getting used to it, and the only other nation I can enjoy is Japan for its turn fighters. I just want to know the point of carrying much less ammo (as with the 30 mills) only to do less dmg and to have much less muzzle velocity. Guess there is not point in playing any other nation.e who primarily planes US planes and is now trying out planes from other nations, .50 have ruined that experiance for me. I see no point in playing planes with whimpy 20 and 30mm cannons when the US .50 cal can one shot most fighter planes. I just cannot see myself getting used to it, and the only other nation I can enjoy is Japan for its turn fighters. I just want to know the point of carrying much less ammo (as with the 30 mills) only to do less dmg and to have much less muzzle velocity. Guess there is not point in playing any other nation.

[The Wiggly Armed Man]

The .50 cal is performing historically imo, the only thing that separates it from history is the server not registering all of the rounds.

[Scrotum Scratcher]

try out the 20mm AN/M3's and see how wrong you are. .50 cals feel fine compared to 20mms and 30mms

also, are you playing arcade or RB?

[AttackerCat]

Except the fact german 20mms are performing extremely well, sure.

And btw, you're never getting hit by a 'single' .50cal, 6+ guns per aircraft, 600+ rpm means you're getting hit by 6-24 within a few microseconds.

[InfiniteSpin]

Originally posted by Scrotum Scratcher:

try out the 20mm AN/M3's and see how wrong you are.

also, are you playing arcade or RB?

RB and ive tried every round for every main country. I dont understand why ppl refuse empiricle evidence as there are too many videos showcaseing what ive experianced. All it takes is one test flight to understand just how op .50 cals are.

[InfiniteSpin]

Originally posted by The Wiggly Armed Man:

The .50 cal is performing historically imo, the only thing that separates it from history is the server not registering all of the rounds.

Yes bc there is nothing more historically accurate than taking out fighters with one .50 cal burst while 30 mils struggle to do nearly as much dmg, bc they are totally smaller rounds (100%). Again, look at historical records and tests and you will find out just how much better cannons were than machine guns on aircraft. But go ahead, deny simple science just like most do.

[The Wiggly Armed Man]

Originally posted by ProfessionalGoy:

Originally posted by The Wiggly Armed Man:

The .50 cal is performing historically imo, the only thing that separates it from history is the server not registering all of the rounds.

Yes bc there is nothing more historically accurate than taking out fighters with one .50 cal burst while 30 mils struggle to do nearly as much dmg, bc they are totally smaller rounds (100%). Again, look at historical records and tests and you will find out just how much better cannons were than machine guns on aircraft. But go ahead, deny simple science just like most do.

I don't experience that, granted I do only play AB cuz I can't aim in planes at all. The 30 mm, if they are filled with HE, usually cut fighters apart, though i don't think it's unreasonable for one .50 cal burst to destroy a plane just due to how many rounds it can put down in just a tap.

[InfiniteSpin]

Originally posted by The Wiggly Armed Man:

Originally posted by ProfessionalGoy:

Yes bc there is nothing more historically accurate than taking out fighters with one .50 cal burst while 30 mils struggle to do nearly as much dmg, bc they are totally smaller rounds (100%). Again, look at historical records and tests and you will find out just how much better cannons were than machine guns on aircraft. But go ahead, deny simple science just like most do.

I don't experience that, granted I do only play AB cuz I can't aim in planes at all. The 30 mm, if they are filled with HE, usually cut fighters apart, though i don't think it's unreasonable for one .50 cal burst to destroy a plane just due to how many rounds it can put down in just a tap.

I dunno how it is in AB, but since its harder to aim in RB, .05 cals, along with the dmg they do, seem to always be a more viable option because of how far the shells travel (along with the insaine dmg they do)

[Edgrponce]

People that say 50cals overperform dont understand why they do so much damage ill compare in a 1second burst between 1 m2 50cal and 1 mg151
In the full 1 secons the mg151 would have fired maby 5 rounds of machinengross(????),IP,etc but for the single 50cal it may have fired 30-50+ rounds of apit,ap,etc which makes alot more holes in alot of places not to mention the fires
As for 30mils struggling if your talking Japanese yea those guns are ♥♥♥♥ but the german ones blow entire planes up in 1 or a couple of hits

[Druckform | INSOMNIAC 3D]

Originally posted by ProfessionalGoy:

Originally posted by The Wiggly Armed Man:

I don't experience that, granted I do only play AB cuz I can't aim in planes at all. The 30 mm, if they are filled with HE, usually cut fighters apart, though i don't think it's unreasonable for one .50 cal burst to destroy a plane just due to how many rounds it can put down in just a tap.

I dunno how it is in AB, but since its harder to aim in RB, .05 cals, along with the dmg they do, seem to always be a more viable option because of how far the shells travel (along with the insaine dmg they do)

hold down the fire button for 1 second with 20mm cannons and you'd shoot 2-4 bullets. hold down the fire button for 1 second with 6x 50. cals and youre sending over a hundred bullets. See how that works? just because a round is bigger doesnt mean its suddenly better, it fires a lot slower than 50. cals do and one 50 nearly weighs as much as a 20mm anyway, and you're firing 6 of them with each shot.

[kamikazi21358]

inb4 “MG 151 OP”

[Shard]

50 Cal's are fine for what they are. Think about it, they're the literally only things US planes does well other than maybe CAS?

Nerf the 50cals and there's no reason to play Us planes

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

50 cals are fine, you should see how they were years ago and how long they were almost useless, that at one point i gaveup hope that someday they would fixed those...

[InfiniteSpin]

Originally posted by Shard:

50 Cal's are fine for what they are. Think about it, they're the literally only things US planes does well other than maybe CAS?

Nerf the 50cals and there's no reason to play Us planes

Id disagree with, US planes are great at spray and preying, and taking out bombers. And unlike most planes you need not worry about how much ammo you have left (unless you are completely trigger happy) add this to the fact that they are great bnz'ers

[InfiniteSpin]

Originally posted by =VNPA= novastorm//pt\\:

50 cals are fine, you should see how they were years ago and how long they were almost useless, that at one point i gaveup hope that someday they would fixed those...

Yes .50 cals were pretty useless and a moderate - yes moderate, buff would have been needed. But Gajin decided to turn them into 40mm's that can snipe from 2km away

[Shard]

Originally posted by ProfessionalGoy:

Originally posted by Shard:

50 Cal's are fine for what they are. Think about it, they're the literally only things US planes does well other than maybe CAS?

Nerf the 50cals and there's no reason to play Us planes

Id disagree with, US planes are great at spray and preying, and taking out bombers. And unlike most planes you need not worry about how much ammo you have left (unless you are completely trigger happy) add this to the fact that they are great bnz'ers

Exactly what I was saying. Armament is one of the few things they are good at. As for great BNZers, well pointless because the 109s will always be above you if you sideclimb.

They do have great dive speed though, not much planes can catch a running P 61