german lineups. and casual chat.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

anything german between 4.3 and 9.0 are worthless, unless you dont mind the 30-40% winrate, then by all means... but at some point those winrates are gonna get to you, its just not fun losing consistantly 6-7 out of 10 battles.
tanks RB mode.
https://gyazo.com/8944e2dde2c94592ed89a74d6f0cc998
edit: casual chat means no specific topic,open chat.

[Egan]

Tank? Plane? Or Ship?

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

引用自 Egan：

Tank? Plane? Or Ship?

tanks RB

[Narf]

I've got a 60% winrate on the ground on my 4.3 lineup, 49% on my 6.7, 53% on my 5.7, 51% on my 7.7 and 56% on my 8.7 lineup. So that's a you-problem.

Playing Germany can be frustratring at times because many "team"mates are some dumb-AF kids who are just going "German tenks were da best!!!11" and brainlessly charge to their deaths, I see those people all the time.

But it's still possible to have a favourable or at least even winrate with Germany.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

引用自 Narf：

I've got a 60% winrate on the ground on my 4.3 lineup, 49% on my 6.7, 53% on my 5.7, 51% on my 7.7 and 56% on my 8.7 lineup. So that's a you-problem.

Playing Germany can be frustratring at times because many "team"mates are some dumb-AF kids who are just going "German tenks were da best!!!11" and brainlessly charge to their deaths, I see those people all the time.

But it's still possible to have a favourable or at least even winrate with Germany.

thats in RB? you only have one of each BR? i much doubt all your 5.7s sit at 53% and all your 6.7s at 49% but i bet youre one of those guys that will gladly talk all day about his stats but never show them, am i right?
but obviously some will be higher and some will be lower, but when you look at the averages, they are pretty much 99% below 50% winrate, all of them.
3 hours late and still no response, cant say im surprised.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

引用自 Mirage：

Most of my German vehicles are at 40% or so.
Tiger ll is at 44%
Panther A at 37%
Jagdpanther at 41%
M48G at 20%
38t at 16%
Jagdpanzer IV at 8%
L/44 at 36%

Have a couple of vehicles that are above 50%
Leo 2A4 is at 52%
Pz 4 F2 is at 53%
Pz 4 J at 61%
8.8 Flakbus at 73% somehow.

yea mine looks pretty similar,
but, below 4.3 german tanks are doing good,some would even say they are op,some are (KV-1B)
and 9.0+ youre being carried by OP german 10.s(leo2A5). but anything inbetween 4.3 and 9.0 german, just sucks, sad pathetic winrates.
and all those tanks you mention above 50% are not within the br range im talking about :)
this is what my 25 most played german tanks looks like.
https://gyazo.com/33e654a12c705729bd2bca4b2575db9f

[Hugh de Salle]

I tend to play BR 4.0 as anything above that puts you in the free xp for MURICA range.

Germany does Suffer coz if you check the stats above BR 5.0 they are terrible and when you compare them to lets see MURICA .

I dare anybody to check out the British and MURICA Heavy tank stats and not say the whole balance of the game is crap.

MURICA gets their first simple as that want an example.

M10 GMC WR is 42% its slow

Black Cat has a 71% WR its fast

Super MURICA Hellcat 67% WR its fast

The common factor is the Black Cat and Hellcat dont have great K/D ratios both Prems but their very fast which means they cap very quick and capping first is always better especially MURICA coz they get some mobile tanks that can support very quick compared to the German Plodders.

I have no Doubt Germany would do better in non domination games and maybe Gaijin need to think about that if they want proper balance.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

引用自 Franss the Coffee Addict：

Ah yes. Another German suffers post.
Welp, bottom's up

thats what you got?? so how does your german stats look??? have you even ever played german tanks in RB above 4.3??? and still no response, not that i was expecting one, classic troll.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

引用自 Mirage：

引用自 Franss the Coffee Addict：

Ah yes. Another German suffers post.
Welp, bottom's up

Funny how the people who complain about these threads are the ones making baseless claims and argue against it, whilst in contrast these threads often enough are being backed up with actual statistics and facts.

yes the internet is a funny place.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

引用自 Mirage：

Oh yeah i've said it before.. the Panzer IV F2 is the last you'll be actively winning untill 10.0, I just mentioned a few randomly.

The Panzer IVs have some decent ones in there, but they're barely an improvement over the F2 and in an uptier it's 5.3 vs something that is barely an improvement over a 3.3 tank.

The Russian stuff is pretty good, the captured vehicles, but they're also not just tech tree stuff.

yea i agree, i have researched every single vehicle in the russian tank tree. and i have about 2k battles with the russian panther A, and oddly enough get 2.3:1 K/D rate and 57% winrate.

[Peppe_LePeu]

Not really sure how you are having this issue? Germany has some amazing line ups in this BR range.

4.0-5.0 you have some of if not the best premium options with things like the kv-754 and 756, the panzer iv is still very effective, and the td's are solid.

5.3-6.7 - this is a bit rougher but you have the guns. The biggest issue is the idea that the germans can take hits. Too many times do tigers go head on with no angling or panthers thinking they are faster then they are and end up food. Just play to the tanks strengths in this br bracket and be methodical. Methodical german teams are terrors at this BR. On top of this at 6.7 you have access to one of the best premiums in the game with the RU-251. For Germany this is a 50/50 bracket as you either get a team that understands the play and dominates or rushes and rolls over.

6.7-7.7 - Germany goes through a big change in playstyle from methodical slow tanks to lightly armored quick ones. This is a hard BR just due to that for german teams as a whole, however the RU-251, Leopard 1, and Kugel are gems. Like the previous tier an experienced team will dominate this bracket and a newer team will struggle.

7.7-8.7 - Germany does not suffer here at all. With access to the RU-251 for lightning strikes, the 8.7 leopard line (including the premium l/44), Gepard SPAA, and Beigel there is very little any team can field that Germany shouldnt be able to handle. This is a team issue or a player issue bracket not a German one.

8.7-9.0 You face the american chopper and xm-1 spam. Just like 8.7 though there is nothing about this you cannot destroy with ease. This is a player and team issue not a german one.

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

引用自 Peppe_LePeu：

Not really sure how you are having this issue? Germany has some amazing line ups in this BR range.

purely based on my own playing experience(up to 7.7br with germans) and from playing agaisnt them with US up to 8.0, RU up to 10.0 and UK up to 7.0. and the statistics that are available to us via thunderskill.

[Peppe_LePeu]

引用自 NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div：

引用自 Peppe_LePeu：

Not really sure how you are having this issue? Germany has some amazing line ups in this BR range.

purely based on my own playing experience(up to 7.7br with germans) and from playing agaisnt them with US up to 8.0, RU up to 10.0 and UK up to 7.0. and the statistics that are available to us via thunderskill.

I guess as a French main my experience has just been different then average then. I have found I am more likely to win when being paired with the Germans then any other nation.

And when i play the Germans they dont seem to have issues.

[Franss the Coffee Addict]

引用自 NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div：

引用自 Franss the Coffee Addict：

Ah yes. Another German suffers post.
Welp, bottom's up

thats what you got?? so how does your german stats look??? have you even ever played german tanks in RB above 4.3??? and still no response, not that i was expecting one, classic troll.

I'm jst tired of this whole game. It's complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in balance and has been for multiple years.
And yes, I've played Germans above 4.3, up to 7.0 while Jpz 4-5 was still 7.0, I actually enjoyed it. Why? Because by that time I realized, armor no longer mattered at any battle rating. unless you have the captured finnish KV1

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

引用自 Franss the Coffee Addict：

引用自 NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div：

thats what you got?? so how does your german stats look??? have you even ever played german tanks in RB above 4.3??? and still no response, not that i was expecting one, classic troll.

I'm jst tired of this whole game. It's complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in balance and has been for multiple years.
And yes, I've played Germans above 4.3, up to 7.0 while Jpz 4-5 was still 7.0, I actually enjoyed it. Why? Because by that time I realized, armor no longer mattered at any battle rating. unless you have the captured finnish KV1

i kinda feel the same, getting really tired of it. but the loss rate of german lineups are just getting too much, what does your winrates with german above 4.3 in RB look like?

[NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div]

引用自 Peppe_LePeu：

引用自 NAF-5th.Legion-Waffen.Div：

purely based on my own playing experience(up to 7.7br with germans) and from playing agaisnt them with US up to 8.0, RU up to 10.0 and UK up to 7.0. and the statistics that are available to us via thunderskill.

I guess as a French main my experience has just been different then average then. I have found I am more likely to win when being paired with the Germans then any other nation.

And when i play the Germans they dont seem to have issues.

how does your winrates look with german above 4.3 in RB?