EasyAntiCheat

[Zurg]

I am really paranoid when it comes to my pc and related stuff, so when I saw than WT is gonna need an external program to run my paranoia triggered. I have several questions about this, because for this kind of stuff I actually refused to play some games in the past and I really didn't want to stop playing War Thunder. I mean, in my opinion WT was always fine and all of a sudden this is REQUIRED to play the game? Why? Yes, you're gonna say another layer of protection, I already saw that, but why now, just like that?
Also the more important stuff:
How intrusive is this? It runs in the background, doing its thing, but what can it actually do? I really hate having to run stuff in the background while I play, especially not really needed stuff, so I tried to do some research and on the good side (I guess), I saw that a lot of games use this. On the other hand, I also read that this can take screenshots and make them public, which may include private information in the background while the game is running? KEEP IN MIND that this could be completely wrong and might be false information, but still I'd rather be cautious.
Can a trustworthy source elaborate a bit more about this?

As I said I HATE being forced to have extra programs, especially when they were NEVER needed so far, so even having more than 2k hours in this, and being the most played game on steam, I actually thought of dropping it because of this.

And please don't come with the crap argument that I might be a hacker that is hating on an Anti Cheat software... Please don't.

[Miles Spineless]

Warthunder always installed light malware called Gjagent so you were never really save with warthunder if you dont block/remove it and installs it a new every update your fear of a well used anti cheat system should not be as great as of what you already have.

[Solaire of Astora]

As I stated in another thread, I can't wait to get falsely flagged and banned for programs or drivers that aren't even relevant to the game itself at all.

Then knowing the reality that gaijin won't bother to check if they actually banned an offender or not and then people will lose hundreds if not thousands of dollars due to a dumb chinese spyware company.

But hey, what do they care, right? They already got your money if you paid so why should they ensure the safety of your account from faulty and crappy programs they force upon you if you play their game?

[83athom]

Originally posted by Miles Spineless:

Warthunder always installed light malware called Gjagent so you were never really save with warthunder if you dont block/remove it and installs it a new every update your fear of a well used anti cheat system should not be as great as of what you already have.

... wut? You do know that the agent is the auto-update system that keeps all of Gaijin's games up to date? It doesn't uninstall automatically because then it would effect Star Conflict, Crossout, and their Fortnite style BR game.

Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:

As I stated in another thread, I can't wait to get falsely flagged and banned for programs or drivers that aren't even relevant to the game itself at all.

Then knowing the reality that gaijin won't bother to check if they actually banned an offender or not and then people will lose hundreds if not thousands of dollars due to a dumb chinese spyware company.

But hey, what do they care, right? They already got your money if you paid so why should they ensure the safety of your account from faulty and crappy programs they force upon you if you play their game?

I've personally never had a problem with any game that used EAC, through 4 different computers. If you're afraid of getting flagged, then that should say something about all the ♥♥♥♥ you download.

[Solaire of Astora]

Has nothing to do with what I download. It has more to do with how much money is invested in the game. I have EVERY right to question something that could potentially flagged my account falsely and cause me to lose that investment over nothing related to the game at all.

[Compiled_]

Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:

Has nothing to do with what I download. It has more to do with how much money is invested in the game. I have EVERY right to question something that could potentially flagged my account falsely and cause me to lose that investment over nothing related to the game at all.

Then simply appeal the ban. It's easy to prove you never had anything suspicious if you ask them to look at why it flagged you. Also played several games that use EAC over 2 PCs and a couple different IP changes, never flagged for anything, ever, because I don't have that stuff like you apparently do.

[Acidic__Thought]

Originally posted by Compiled_:

Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:

Has nothing to do with what I download. It has more to do with how much money is invested in the game. I have EVERY right to question something that could potentially flagged my account falsely and cause me to lose that investment over nothing related to the game at all.

Then simply appeal the ban. It's easy to prove you never had anything suspicious if you ask them to look at why it flagged you. Also played several games that use EAC over 2 PCs and a couple different IP changes, never flagged for anything, ever, because I don't have that stuff like you apparently do.

Even every day software is flagged. The Division 2's EAC flags my Asus AURA software. I'd love to see that show up in a ban.

[uɐɐılʎʇs]

Originally posted by 83athom:

I've personally never had a problem with any game that used EAC, through 4 different computers. If you're afraid of getting flagged, then that should say something about all the ♥♥♥♥ you download.

You ever had any trainers/programs for single player offline games?
I still occasionally play sids pirates(2004), an old game which had a stupid dancing aspect of the game i use/used a trainer for to auto complete that part. Always been worried about more intrusive anti cheats maybe finding something in that.
VAC ignores it thankfully, but id be a little worried about testing it on a new anticheat.

Only program like that ive ever used just to make a fun old game not be annoying.
Not too concerned as its a game i barely play any more. I could just play that on my old PC anyway due to how old that game is. A potato could run that game.

[MouseKlown]

Originally posted by -HyPe_x7:

I am really paranoid when it comes to my pc and related stuff, so when I saw than WT is gonna need an external program to run my paranoia triggered. I have several questions about this, because for this kind of stuff I actually refused to play some games in the past and I really didn't want to stop playing War Thunder. I mean, in my opinion WT was always fine and all of a sudden this is REQUIRED to play the game? Why? Yes, you're gonna say another layer of protection, I already saw that, but why now, just like that?
Also the more important stuff:
How intrusive is this? It runs in the background, doing its thing, but what can it actually do? I really hate having to run stuff in the background while I play, especially not really needed stuff, so I tried to do some research and on the good side (I guess), I saw that a lot of games use this. On the other hand, I also read that this can take screenshots and make them public, which may include private information in the background while the game is running? KEEP IN MIND that this could be completely wrong and might be false information, but still I'd rather be cautious.
Can a trustworthy source elaborate a bit more about this?

As I said I HATE being forced to have extra programs, especially when they were NEVER needed so far, so even having more than 2k hours in this, and being the most played game on steam, I actually thought of dropping it because of this.

And please don't come with the crap argument that I might be a hacker that is hating on an Anti Cheat software... Please don't.

Don't worry; the software is totally useless and you'll be sniped from 300km away by nothing in Planes and watch rounds ricochet hundreds of times through solid terrain in Tanks. Don't bother with this Russian pile of ♥♥♥♥ in the first place, lol.

[83athom]

Originally posted by uɐɐılʎʇs:

Originally posted by 83athom:

I've personally never had a problem with any game that used EAC, through 4 different computers. If you're afraid of getting flagged, then that should say something about all the ♥♥♥♥ you download.

You ever had any trainers/programs for single player offline games?
I still occasionally play sids pirates(2004), an old game which had a stupid dancing aspect of the game i use/used a trainer for to auto complete that part. Always been worried about more intrusive anti cheats maybe finding something in that.
VAC ignores it thankfully, but id be a little worried about testing it on a new anticheat.

So a cheat... you're worried about getting flagged for cheating for having cheats on your computer... so I guess... yes you should be worried?

[Solaire of Astora]

Originally posted by Acidic__Thought:

Originally posted by Compiled_:

Then simply appeal the ban. It's easy to prove you never had anything suspicious if you ask them to look at why it flagged you. Also played several games that use EAC over 2 PCs and a couple different IP changes, never flagged for anything, ever, because I don't have that stuff like you apparently do.

Even every day software is flagged. The Division 2's EAC flags my Asus AURA software. I'd love to see that show up in a ban.

Originally posted by uɐɐılʎʇs:

Originally posted by 83athom:

I've personally never had a problem with any game that used EAC, through 4 different computers. If you're afraid of getting flagged, then that should say something about all the ♥♥♥♥ you download.

You ever had any trainers/programs for single player offline games?
I still occasionally play sids pirates(2004), an old game which had a stupid dancing aspect of the game i use/used a trainer for to auto complete that part. Always been worried about more intrusive anti cheats maybe finding something in that.
VAC ignores it thankfully, but id be a little worried about testing it on a new anticheat.

Only program like that ive ever used just to make a fun old game not be annoying.
Not too concerned as its a game i barely play any more. I could just play that on my old PC anyway due to how old that game is. A potato could run that game.

Pretty much this, I use cheat engine and a few other programs for games completely unrelated to war thunder for various different reasons like spawning stuff in singleplayer games such as astroneers or whatever dumb random stuff I do.

I shouldn't have to worry about what is on my computer because one game decided to use a system that basically tells me what I can and can't have on my own personal computer. I'd take having 5-10 games potentially ruined a year by a hacker/cheater over some cheap epic owned crap. VAC would have been a way better choice over EAC.

Plus as a 100% AMD user, ive seen plenty of complaints about false flagging over simple RGB color settings from ASUS mobos, which I plan on getting a hero mobo by sept.

So yes, I think I do have justifiable concerns especially when gaijin's usual stance on banning is "lol too bad we don't care." Why else would they throw in a "use sound mods at your own risk ))))" in their comments?

[Burger]

Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:

Originally posted by Acidic__Thought:

Even every day software is flagged. The Division 2's EAC flags my Asus AURA software. I'd love to see that show up in a ban.

Originally posted by uɐɐılʎʇs:

You ever had any trainers/programs for single player offline games?
I still occasionally play sids pirates(2004), an old game which had a stupid dancing aspect of the game i use/used a trainer for to auto complete that part. Always been worried about more intrusive anti cheats maybe finding something in that.
VAC ignores it thankfully, but id be a little worried about testing it on a new anticheat.

Only program like that ive ever used just to make a fun old game not be annoying.
Not too concerned as its a game i barely play any more. I could just play that on my old PC anyway due to how old that game is. A potato could run that game.

Pretty much this, I use cheat engine and a few other programs for games completely unrelated to war thunder for various different reasons like spawning stuff in singleplayer games such as astroneers or whatever dumb random stuff I do.

I shouldn't have to worry about what is on my computer because one game decided to use a system that basically tells me what I can and can't have on my own personal computer. I'd take having 5-10 games potentially ruined a year by a hacker/cheater over some cheap epic owned crap. VAC would have been a way better choice over EAC.

Plus as a 100% AMD user, ive seen plenty of complaints about false flagging over simple RGB color settings from ASUS mobos, which I plan on getting a hero mobo by sept.

So yes, I think I do have justifiable concerns especially when gaijin's usual stance on banning is "lol too bad we don't care." Why else would they throw in a "use sound mods at your own risk ))))" in their comments?

Modding the game in any way is a cheat...Sounds like your worried aboutt a " undetectable program"....

[rrubberr]

Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:

Has nothing to do with what I download. It has more to do with how much money is invested in the game. I have EVERY right to question something that could potentially flagged my account falsely and cause me to lose that investment over nothing related to the game at all.

YOU CALL DUMPING MONEY INTO A FREE TO PLAY AN INVESTMENT

[Narf]

Yeah OP, I can understand your privacy concerns. A lot of anticheat software is pretty much spyware, monitoring way more than itself and the software it is meant to protect and thus reacting to stuff that has nothing to do with it. In the case of EAC, I've read about it flagging stuff like Visual Studio, OBS, and RGB control programs, for example, which to me indicates that EAC is the same. And even if you had cheat programs for other games that should be none of their business. I have a few modding programs for older offline games installed myself which aren't unlikely to be flagged if EAC does something like scanning the registry.

The Epic privacy policy linked on the Easy Anti Cheat site is very generic and broad, lacking specifics and contains concerning lines like:
"We also may share certain limited information, such as device identifiers, with advertisers and other marketing partners for purposes of gauging the effectiveness of advertising and other marketing strategies."
or
"We may share information about you with your social network contacts when you and they use the same social features of our games and applications."

So as far as I am concerned you have every right to be worried about privacy intrusions by this software. So yesterday, I've sent an inquiry to Epic's email adress for privacy concerns, asking which data Easy Anti Cheat monitors, gathers, and sends back home as well as who exactly these data might be shared with beyond their own company and the dev studio of the game in question. I'll happily share the answer with you when it arrives.

[uɐɐılʎʇs]

Originally posted by 83athom:

Originally posted by uɐɐılʎʇs:

You ever had any trainers/programs for single player offline games?
I still occasionally play sids pirates(2004), an old game which had a stupid dancing aspect of the game i use/used a trainer for to auto complete that part. Always been worried about more intrusive anti cheats maybe finding something in that.
VAC ignores it thankfully, but id be a little worried about testing it on a new anticheat.

So a cheat... you're worried about getting flagged for cheating for having cheats on your computer... so I guess... yes you should be worried?

It is, for a single player, offline game to avoid a certain less fun aspect.
Doesnt affect anyone else at all. Only works for 1 game. And by warthunder ToS etc, has absolutely 0 to do with anything, and is not bannable, as it cannot affect warthunder at all.
And would not be running at the time.

Trainers for some old games are extremely common, as some old games wont even run until a trainer is used to change a graphics setting option allowing it to run on more modern operating systems.

So yes, i would be worried about getting flagged for a program that does not and can not affect war thunder in the slightest. Regardless of whether it is a cheat(for a single player game) or not. And worried how warthunder would go in appeals should it happen. As a few companies are more then willing to ignore any appeal and just 100% trust an anti cheat.
Dont get me wrong, id assume the majority of bans are legitimate. But im sure a few players do get falsely banned.

[Baron von ZinGir]

EAC is virus pretty much that you allow to, Take screenshots. Upload your files they deem to be part of a cheat. Even tho its a jpg.
It will have NO linux support as epic bought it, and we all know how epic works.

AMD users have problems with eac aswell. so what happens is half of your player base cant play some are banned for using a RGB setting on a mobo (cause hey a cheat must be in the bios)
Other cant even start it cause its not supported.

Sure bring it peoples say how i have a tinfoil hat and so, il be laughing when your crying wolf your creditcard info is stolen and your 50k in debt. (go use google it takes minor skills).