Does anyone else feel that helicopters are ruining top tier

[[Giver Of The Beans]]

Now im not saying im completely against helicopters being in game(besides pandora's box has already been open not much we can do about that), but it is quite rage inducing when i spawn on a flat open map with no cover and die 1 minute into the game because i have no where to hide.

Does anyone know of any plans that are in the works to address this?

Im tired of spawning and dying, I can't protect myself, i can't hide myself and most importantly i cant even see where they are coming from most of the time.

I use the leopard 2a5 so every time i die thats 20k+ repair costs i frequently have to run to tier 4 to make 50-80k so i can play 3 or 4 matches in my tank only to die quickly once again because of helicopters watching my spawn. This has the adverse effect on gameplay because i am less likely to spawn in more than one tank if i know that im just doomed to die when i spawn. I can not afford the repair cost for more than one tank anymore.

[Dr Mad]

Ruining top tier ?

Nah , if anything they became obsolete , aside from the very last ones of each tree.
Unless it's in RB where no one takes an AA vehicle because muh tank kills , Helos get shut down extremely quickly.

In AB there's always at least one AA vehicle out after the first deaths.
In SB the skill level to pilot a helicopter is much higher and they don't always make kills.

Be glad it's not post update helicopters where they would fly up to 5km upwards and snipe you with infinite range atgms.
Now you have to be within range of your targets (between 3 to 4km if I remember correctly) which also happens to be the range of ground atgms.

Oh and since it's top tiers , there's still lolsams that just blast you out of the sky the second you spawn.

[burg4401]

i feel thermals are even worse, thermal on heli.......just great.

[SteT]

引用自 theGoddes：

引用自 Yams：

im sure

you must have spawned after a zone was capped because it is impossible for a heli to spawn with ATGMs at start of game

You can spawn at the start of a match in a Heli with ATGMs. I have done it, multiple times.

[🎀Hara🎀]

helicopters ruining top tier? how do free kills ruin top tier? i have never seen a heli survive more than 20 seconds after spawning

[DasaKamov]

A few months back. ATGM helos * were* at the top of the food chain, but they're now easy prey for any radar-based mobile SAM or SPAAG. Of course, when playing with random teammates, it's a luck of the draw if anyone actually brings such a vehicle, but once present they pretty much shut down any enemy helicopter activity.

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

helicopters, planes i see them die pretty fast always since the the sam spaas were added....

[Doctor Eggman]

引用自 Yams：

Now im not saying im completely against helicopters being in game(besides pandora's box has already been open not much we can do about that), but it is quite rage inducing when i spawn on a flat open map with no cover and die 1 minute into the game because i have no where to hide.

Does anyone know of any plans that are in the works to address this?

Im tired of spawning and dying, I can't protect myself, i can't hide myself and most importantly i cant even see where they are coming from most of the time.

I use the leopard 2a5 so every time i die thats 20k+ repair costs i frequently have to run to tier 4 to make 50-80k so i can play 3 or 4 matches in my tank only to die quickly once again because of helicopters watching my spawn. This has the adverse effect on gameplay because i am less likely to spawn in more than one tank if i know that im just doomed to die when i spawn. I can not afford the repair cost for more than one tank anymore.

Most people hate the 2a5 more than the heli.

Kinda like a "reap what you sow" situation don't you think?

I don't think helis are that big a deal. If a single OTOMATIC or SAM Panzer appears, that's it; pretty much every heli in the sky is done for. There's also the G-Lynx which is pretty much the only decent vehicle Britain has right now, except for the Chally 2 (and that can be debated)... Nerfing the Lynx into the ground would just make Britain 100% non-competitive again, which I'm sure Germany players would like.

... the only time where helis get to cause havoc is the times when the team isn't smart enough to have a single player clean out the entire sky in an OTO or Tunguska or something else, which is pretty easily done, I might add.

引用自 burg4401：

i love being farmed at the start of a game, hoping someone else kills the heli or i get lucky.

they should spawn like planes after a person has got points to do so. At least then your side should have something to counter it.

OTOMATIC, Tunguska, FlakPanzer / SAM Panzer / ADATS / SIDAM (Mistral)...

The moment any of those vehicles appears at the start of the game, your heli days are numbered. Shame most players aren't smart enough to actually use them straight away and then whine when 4 helis crush their team. When it does happen I have a really hard time and often have to hide. When it doesn't happen I get 7 kills.

引用自 theGoddes：

引用自 Yams：

im sure

you must have spawned after a zone was capped because it is impossible for a heli to spawn with ATGMs at start of game

Its been possible for helis to spawn with ATGM's for a while mate. They reduced the SP costs due to the addition of SAM launchers.

[Doctor Eggman]

Plus most helis actually take some semblence of skill / game sense to play.

I see many G-Lynx pilots (whilst also flying my Lynx) be unable to control their heli when they enter a spin from damage (something that can be often fixed by lowering the throttle), they rarely get kills, rarely use their air to air missiles and don't know how to use land-based cover properly to maximum effectiveness.

They also don't listen to their Radar Pinging system and fly straight into the SAM's, also very few players actually use flares properly, which is hilarious, it gives you like a 50% chance or higher of evading a heat-seeking missile.

This ultimately makes 90% of the helicopters you see practically useless, since the players themselves still don't know how to fly a helicopter properly.

The ones that are killing you are usually the ones who know their stuff, and deserve their kills.