T-64 is OP

[pompous]

Nothing can compete with it.

MBT-70 is basically a glass house same as the kpz
the only thing that stands and chance is the chieftain.

[Hladilnik]

MBT has APFSDS that can easily pen the T-64s hull.
Any tank that has over 200mm of pen can kill the T-64.(lower glacis only has 80mm of armor and on the left and right side of the cannon is a spot where its not protected by composite armor,only 150mm of armor.)
Oh yea and lets not talk about the sides of the T-64...

[Katokevin]

In my KPz-70 with APFSDS, the only part I can't really penetrate is the well armored turret (though as Slavic Pride said, the area around the barrel is not protected by composite armor). 105mm and up APFSDS can generally go through the hull quite easily which often results in a hit to the ammo (and a flying T-64 turret) or a crew wipe. Not sure about the T-55A or T95A1 APFSDS though.

[pompous]

Originally posted by Slavic Pride:

MBT has APFSDS that can easily pen the T-64s hull.
Any tank that has over 200mm of pen can kill the T-64.(lower glacis only has 80mm of armor and on the left and right side of the cannon is a spot where its not protected by composite armor,only 150mm of armor.)
Oh yea and lets not talk about the sides of the T-64...

Originally posted by Katokevin:

In my KPz-70 with APFSDS, the only part I can't really penetrate is the well armored turret (though as Slavic Pride said, the area around the barrel is not protected by composite armor). 105mm and up APFSDS can generally go through the hull quite easily which often results in a hit to the ammo (and a flying T-64 turret) or a crew wipe. Not sure about the T-55A or T95A1 APFSDS though.

See the T-64 doesnt even have to think about weak spots, it can just through anywhere, that alone sums it up.

[My longest ree ever]

only got 310 000 rp left, hope it still is when i get it

[SentryNXT]

Originally posted by Sir Det Mist:

Originally posted by Slavic Pride:

MBT has APFSDS that can easily pen the T-64s hull.
Any tank that has over 200mm of pen can kill the T-64.(lower glacis only has 80mm of armor and on the left and right side of the cannon is a spot where its not protected by composite armor,only 150mm of armor.)
Oh yea and lets not talk about the sides of the T-64...

Originally posted by Katokevin:

In my KPz-70 with APFSDS, the only part I can't really penetrate is the well armored turret (though as Slavic Pride said, the area around the barrel is not protected by composite armor). 105mm and up APFSDS can generally go through the hull quite easily which often results in a hit to the ammo (and a flying T-64 turret) or a crew wipe. Not sure about the T-55A or T95A1 APFSDS though.

See the T-64 doesnt even have to think about weak spots, it can just through anywhere, that alone sums it up.

This, also T64 is a point and click, kpz has lower velocity and actually needs to range find.

[Katokevin]

Originally posted by Sir Det Mist:

See the T-64 doesnt even have to think about weak spots, it can just through anywhere, that alone sums it up.

What else do you expect? Nothing it faces really has armor designed to resist a 125mm APFSDS minus the Chieftain Mk.10. A decent few people in the MBT/KPz-70 (which is still not easy to find) will have no trouble against the T-64A. If they would take advantage of the agility and make more use of the adjustable suspension, they would likley have a bit of an easier time.

The biggest problem I see in top tier is simply how people play. They all want to go off on their own and make one on one (or more) fights which simply gets them surrounded and killed. There is a good reason I don't often play top tier these days and it's not because of any specific tanks.

[Omega Sirius]

Originally posted by Čá®yFu© |UKCZ|:

T64 is op. because russian bias. when t64 and kpz was new it was balanced, but now its sux.. reload from 6 to 10sec. haha nice nerf.

They did that for historical purposes, nothing to do with the gameplay.

[Omega Sirius]

Originally posted by Hussien the sand nibba:

Originally posted by Omega Sirius:

They did that for historical purposes, nothing to do with the gameplay.

And they are still both at the same BR.

Lol no, I hope you aren't suggesting they lower the BR of the KPZ.
That's pretty much a Leopard 1/A1A1 on full steroids.

[Zrker]

The KPZ/MBT is the best tank in the game stat wise. However, people play those tanks like go carts and don't even think hence why it gets ♥♥♥♥ on (just like the leopards). The XYZ-70s have no issue killing T64s its literally a 1 shot to the UFP how much easier can it get? And the reason the T64 can pen it nearly everywhere is because its 2X as ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mobile and has less armor. Its just a case of Git Gud for the German teams, US teams seem to be doing good in the MBT though.

[Kay]

Originally posted by Čá®yFu© |UKCZ|:

Originally posted by Omega Sirius:

They did that for historical purposes, nothing to do with the gameplay.

No. Only MBT rocket is 10 sec. reload. KPZ have 6 sec. Probably both Rocket and shell.

No.

Kpz reload is 10 seconds for the 152mm gun (the one installed) and 6 seconds for the 120mm gun (the one Germany wanted installed) not just missiles (they use exactly the same autoloader, why would it take longer?)

[BLACK_GHOST_ZERO]

this is russia game. wellcome to russia game bias thunder.

[Vault-TecMech]

Originally posted by Čá®yFu© |UKCZ|:

T64 is op. because russian bias. when t64 and kpz was new it was balanced, but now its sux.. reload from 6 to 10sec. haha nice nerf.

Yeah but does even out. Kpz's and Mbt's are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fast. Faster turret, fast moveability. Have you tried reversing in the T64? Its like tractor. Plus Kpz's are a little bit faster top speed and capable of firing ATGM's.

When you look at the specs and benefits all round if one has a slight advatage the other one will in another area. Russian bias is a load of wank some 12 year old American kid made up when he yank tanks got blown up too many times.....

[Comrade Tiedanski 五月天]

Originally posted by Vault-TecMech:

Originally posted by Čá®yFu© |UKCZ|:

T64 is op. because russian bias. when t64 and kpz was new it was balanced, but now its sux.. reload from 6 to 10sec. haha nice nerf.

Yeah but does even out. Kpz's and Mbt's are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fast. Faster turret, fast moveability. Have you tried reversing in the T64? Its like tractor. Plus Kpz's are a little bit faster top speed and capable of firing ATGM's.

When you look at the specs and benefits all round if one has a slight advatage the other one will in another area. Russian bias is a load of wank some 12 year old American kid made up when he yank tanks got blown up too many times.....

Um... The T64 also can fire ATGMs since it's a smothbore 125mm cannon :P

[Kiwoeoe]

reading all this comments the only thing i can say l2p lol