t54-1947 LOL

[My longest ree ever]

LOL 8/10 Deaths are from shot trap AND NOW IT IS UPRANKED TO 7.7? Gimme a break...

[My longest ree ever]

This tanks sucks so mutch ♥♥♥♥ now, wont play untill it is downtier

[Obamenau]

Originally posted by My longest ree ever:

This tanks sucks so mutch ♥♥♥♥ now, wont play untill it is downtier

Well say goodbye to your T54-47 then

[Big Diesel]

Yet the leopard 1 is at a lower BR lol

[Vriz]

Originally posted by weebtrash:

Yet the leopard 1 is at a lower BR lol

The Leopard 1 can't take a hit in the first place against tanks with APHE

[Sugar Sammy]

Yeah, the t54 47 is useless now. I'll never use it again, but honestly I dont even care about what this game does anymore. The fcukin thing has the worst ammo and it has to contend with things that have stab, good armor designs and amazing ammo. Alot of things in and around that BR have sabo and cheat-fs that'll just uterly destroy it in one shot everytime, and what does the t54 47 have to use? max pen of 251mm with... apcr... APCR at a BR with tanks that have armor that'll bounce it everytime except on a paper tank. The armor design of the tank was good for 7.3, but giving this tank the same BR as the other t54s that are better in everyway is a joke. No one will use this thing anymore and since you can go straight to the t62 after researching the '47, it's a good chance that they'll just skip the rest of the t54s. TBH It is what it is, and just another thing that doesnt really make anysense other than to please the other countries, but what ever. I know I dont have a say in what gaijin does and bit.ching about it on the steam forums wont change anything, so im not going to comment anymore for this BR change.

[Vriz]

Originally posted by Mr. Big Smoke:

Yeah, the t54 47 is useless now. I'll never use it again, but honestly I dont even care about what this game does anymore. The fcukin thing has the worst ammo and it has to contend with things that have stab, good armor designs and amazing ammo. Alot of things in and around that BR have sabo and cheat-fs that'll just uterly destroy it in one shot everytime, and what does the t54 47 have to use? max pen of 251mm with... apcr... APCR at a BR with tanks that have armor that'll bounce it everytime except on a paper tank. The armor design of the tank was good for 7.3, but giving this tank the same BR as the other t54s that are better in everyway is a joke. No one will use this thing anymore and since you can go straight to the t62 after researching the '47, it's a good chance that they'll just skip the rest of the t54s. TBH It is what it is, and just another thing that doesnt really make anysense other than to please the other countries, but what ever. I know I dont have a say in what gaijin does and bit.ching about it on the steam forums wont change anything, so im not going to comment anymore for this BR change.

The T-54 47 is not useless, its the best T-54 out of all of them. The fact you used APCR as a means to push forth the argument that "penetration > all" speaks poorly of the typical noob. It has APHE (BR-471d to be specific) and that round is enough to pen everything ingame besides the Tier 6 MBTs (T-64, MBT / KPz) frontally for a one shot

Honestly, how people get through Tier 4 to now, only to just complain about the T-54 thinking APCR is the ♥♥♥♥ because penetration > everything for the last 3 years is astonishing to me.

Btw, that T-54 1947 was already fighting stabilized tanks (Centurions, Vickers and Conquerors) and is STILL doing well against them as their normal matchmaking opponents.

Poor players like yourself only serve to mislead everything about it because it's clearly a L2P issue in the first place.

[Sugar Sammy]

Originally posted by Vriz:

Originally posted by Mr. Big Smoke:

Yeah, the t54 47 is useless now. I'll never use it again, but honestly I dont even care about what this game does anymore. The fcukin thing has the worst ammo and it has to contend with things that have stab, good armor designs and amazing ammo. Alot of things in and around that BR have sabo and cheat-fs that'll just uterly destroy it in one shot everytime, and what does the t54 47 have to use? max pen of 251mm with... apcr... APCR at a BR with tanks that have armor that'll bounce it everytime except on a paper tank. The armor design of the tank was good for 7.3, but giving this tank the same BR as the other t54s that are better in everyway is a joke. No one will use this thing anymore and since you can go straight to the t62 after researching the '47, it's a good chance that they'll just skip the rest of the t54s. TBH It is what it is, and just another thing that doesnt really make anysense other than to please the other countries, but what ever. I know I dont have a say in what gaijin does and bit.ching about it on the steam forums wont change anything, so im not going to comment anymore for this BR change.

The T-54 47 is not useless, its the best T-54 out of all of them. The fact you used APCR as a means to push forth the argument that "penetration > all" speaks poorly of the typical noob. It has APHE (BR-471d to be specific) and that round is enough to pen everything ingame besides the Tier 6 MBTs (T-64, MBT / KPz) frontally for a one shot

Honestly, how people get through Tier 4 to now, only to just complain about the T-54 thinking APCR is the ♥♥♥♥ because penetration > everything for the last 3 years is astonishing to me.

Btw, that T-54 1947 was already fighting stabilized tanks (Centurions, Vickers and Conquerors) and is STILL doing well against them as their normal matchmaking opponents.

Poor players like yourself only serve to mislead everything about it because it's clearly a L2P issue in the first place.

Oh dont pull that elitest bs with me. Ive played the 47 with apcr and it sucks. And it being the best out of all of them? How? It is the worst one.

[Omega Sirius]

Originally posted by Kozarsson:

Originally posted by Vriz:

And it's inferior to the T-54 1947, no russian tanker EVER uses HEATFS on a T-54 as the main ammo when you have APHE.

51 is inferior to 47? Hmm I have never heard of any 51 getting penned by 3.0 tanks in the turret but ok.

Before this new update with BR changes, 1947 was 7.3 and arguably the best T-54 out of the 3 models. Now that it is 7.7, it will constantly face Leopard 1s and MAUSs', which is probably now the worst T-54 model, and one can easily say that the 1951 model is now the new best T-54 model right now.The reason is because although it has weaker armor than 1947, 1951 gets better ammunition to penetrate tougher targets such as the MAUS.
As of now, 1947 armor is completely useless, since it can be penned with ease now.

[Vriz]

Originally posted by Mr. Big Smoke:

Originally posted by Vriz:

The T-54 47 is not useless, its the best T-54 out of all of them. The fact you used APCR as a means to push forth the argument that "penetration > all" speaks poorly of the typical noob. It has APHE (BR-471d to be specific) and that round is enough to pen everything ingame besides the Tier 6 MBTs (T-64, MBT / KPz) frontally for a one shot

Honestly, how people get through Tier 4 to now, only to just complain about the T-54 thinking APCR is the ♥♥♥♥ because penetration > everything for the last 3 years is astonishing to me.

Btw, that T-54 1947 was already fighting stabilized tanks (Centurions, Vickers and Conquerors) and is STILL doing well against them as their normal matchmaking opponents.

Poor players like yourself only serve to mislead everything about it because it's clearly a L2P issue in the first place.

Oh dont pull that elitest bs with me. Ive played the 47 with apcr and it sucks. And it being the best out of all of them? How? It is the worst one.

Not being elitist, you playing with APCR is the worst mistake you can make. Did you honestly grind through all the way to Russia Tier 5 using APCR when you unlocked them on the T-34-85, T-44 and T-44-100????

My sympathies but that's exactly my point. "Penetration > all" is not the game to play.

T-54 1947 has WAY better turret traverse and frontal armor than the others. If shots are getting through your UFP, then it's incredibly easier for shots to get through on the 1949 and 1951 respectively

[Vriz]

Originally posted by Omega Sirius:

Originally posted by Kozarsson:

51 is inferior to 47? Hmm I have never heard of any 51 getting penned by 3.0 tanks in the turret but ok.

Before this new update with BR changes, 1947 was 7.3 and arguably the best T-54 out of the 3 models. Now that it is 7.7, it will constantly face Leopard 1s and MAUSs', which is probably now the worst T-54 model, and one can easily say that the 1951 model is now the new best T-54 model right now.The reason is because although it has weaker armor than 1947, 1951 gets better ammunition to penetrate tougher targets such as the MAUS.
As of now, 1947 armor is completely useless, since it can be penned with ease now.

Nobody uses HEATFS on Russian tanks, not even I do as my main ammo. The Maus can't actually be penetrated anywhere you look at it with Russian 100mm HEATFS, it's simply not strong enough.

And if it DOES penetrate, it does so little damage in the first place that it's basically a costly 1,400SL for a 10sec wait while the Maus can just lolpen a T-54 1951.

If you're shooting the turret cheeks of a Maus, then the AHE round does a FAR better job in the first place.

Honestly, just stop already, HEAT-FS and APDS for Russia below 8.3 is subpar to everyone else's. The only reason to even include HEAT-FS is to cheese through Tiger II's UFP

[Sugar Sammy]

Originally posted by Vriz:

Originally posted by Mr. Big Smoke:

Oh dont pull that elitest bs with me. Ive played the 47 with apcr and it sucks. And it being the best out of all of them? How? It is the worst one.

Not being elitist, you playing with APCR is the worst mistake you can make. Did you honestly grind through all the way to Russia Tier 5 using APCR when you unlocked them on the T-34-85, T-44 and T-44-100????

My sympathies but that's exactly my point. "Penetration > all" is not the game to play.

T-54 1947 has WAY better turret traverse and frontal armor than the others. If shots are getting through your UFP, then it's incredibly easier for shots to get through on the 1949 and 1951 respectively

I dont EXCLUSIVELY play with apcr like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Duh, I was saying the MAX it can achieve ffs. And yeah, going "oh your just ♥♥♥♥ player, git gud scrub" is elitest bull crap buddy.

[Vriz]

Originally posted by Mr. Big Smoke:

Originally posted by Vriz:

Not being elitist, you playing with APCR is the worst mistake you can make. Did you honestly grind through all the way to Russia Tier 5 using APCR when you unlocked them on the T-34-85, T-44 and T-44-100????

My sympathies but that's exactly my point. "Penetration > all" is not the game to play.

T-54 1947 has WAY better turret traverse and frontal armor than the others. If shots are getting through your UFP, then it's incredibly easier for shots to get through on the 1949 and 1951 respectively

:rfacepalm: I dont EXCLUSIVELY play with apcr like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Duh, I was saying the MAX it can achieve ffs. And yeah, going "oh your just ♥♥♥♥ player, git gud scrub" is elitest bull crap buddy.

The fact you've used it as a means of penning is wrong in the first place. That's still playing into my point, nobody uses APCR. Nobody... until you came along and want to use it as your point for a discussion.

[Sugar Sammy]

Originally posted by Vriz:

Originally posted by Mr. Big Smoke:

I dont EXCLUSIVELY play with apcr like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Duh, I was saying the MAX it can achieve ffs. And yeah, going "oh your just ♥♥♥♥ player, git gud scrub" is elitest bull crap buddy.

The fact you've used it as a means of penning is wrong in the first place. That's still playing into my point, nobody uses APCR. Nobody... until you came along and want to use it as your point for a discussion.

Omg you're sooo dense.

[Omega Sirius]

Originally posted by Vriz:

Originally posted by Omega Sirius:

Before this new update with BR changes, 1947 was 7.3 and arguably the best T-54 out of the 3 models. Now that it is 7.7, it will constantly face Leopard 1s and MAUSs', which is probably now the worst T-54 model, and one can easily say that the 1951 model is now the new best T-54 model right now.The reason is because although it has weaker armor than 1947, 1951 gets better ammunition to penetrate tougher targets such as the MAUS.
As of now, 1947 armor is completely useless, since it can be penned with ease now.

Nobody uses HEATFS on Russian tanks, not even I do as my main ammo. The Maus can't actually be penetrated anywhere you look at it with Russian 100mm HEATFS, it's simply not strong enough.

And if it DOES penetrate, it does so little damage in the first place that it's basically a costly 1,400SL for a 10sec wait while the Maus can just lolpen a T-54 1951.

If you're shooting the turret cheeks of a Maus, then the AHE round does a FAR better job in the first place.

Honestly, just stop already, HEAT-FS and APDS for Russia below 8.3 is subpar to everyone else's. The only reason to even include HEAT-FS is to cheese through Tiger II's UFP

380mm pen for the HEATFS, are you mad? Neither of these rounds have the firepower of the APHE, it's only for penetrating heavily armored targets. In theory if you know you can penetrate the target easiy, then use APHE, but APDS is strictly for heavily armored targets only, no point in using that shell on a lightly armored target.

[Vriz]

Originally posted by Mr. Big Smoke:

Originally posted by Vriz:

The fact you've used it as a means of penning is wrong in the first place. That's still playing into my point, nobody uses APCR. Nobody... until you came along and want to use it as your point for a discussion.

Omg you're sooo dense.

How is that dense when you specifically PLAYED the T-54 1947 with APCR?

Originally posted by Mr. Big Smoke:

Ive played the 47 with apcr and it sucks

Your overall point with APCR in this discussion is the equivalent of saying:

"The Tiger II's APCR pens at 270mm, why the T-54 1947 be uptiered to 7.7 when Tiger II is at 6.7?"

yeah, totally... I'm the dense one >_>