Is the F2A broken?

[Shypigeon]

The thing is a UFO. In my Bf-109 E-4, that thing scares me more than any amount of Spitfires, because it is faster, turns better, dives better, retains energy better, has more powerful guns, ect. Even flying it out myself, it clubs the ♥♥♥♥ out of everything. Do you think the flightmodel of the thing should get nerfed?

[Spaddobird]

No, the F2A isn't broken it's just one of the most competitive low tier fighters. They did actually serve in a Finnish squadron (I believe) until the end of world war 2.

[Hydra]

If you think that's bad, then wait till you go against a good pilot in a F3F-2. That thing can out - turn anything and has a 50 cal to shred you up with.

[Spaddobird]

Originally posted by Hydra | trade.tf:

If you think that's bad, then wait till you go against a good pilot in a F3F-2. That thing can out - turn anything and has a 50 cal to shred you up with.

It's too slow to energy fight, unlike the F2A. From a Bf 109 pilot's perspective I'd say the F2A represents more of a challenge.

[Hydra]

Originally posted by Spaddobird:

Originally posted by Hydra | trade.tf:

If you think that's bad, then wait till you go against a good pilot in a F3F-2. That thing can out - turn anything and has a 50 cal to shred you up with.

It's too slow to energy fight, unlike the F2A. From a Bf 109 pilot's perspective I'd say the F2A represents more of a challenge.

It may be slower but as soon as it turns into a dogfight then you are dead.

[Spaddobird]

Originally posted by Hydra | trade.tf:

Originally posted by Spaddobird:

It's too slow to energy fight, unlike the F2A. From a Bf 109 pilot's perspective I'd say the F2A represents more of a challenge.

It may be slower but as soon as it turns into a dogfight then you are dead.

Well that's the thing right, energy fighters don't need to turn fight, they may be tempted into one but if they have patience and know how to maintain an energy advantage, there is nothing the biplane can do.

By your logic, we may as well be bringing Chaikas into 9.0 games because "I can out turn the sabre therefore there is no chance I can lose".

[Sketchy]

The F2A1 they have in game is not actually an F2A1, rather its the F2A2 model. The difference is that the F2A1 only has a .30cal and .50cal like it did previously while the F2A2 model has the 3x.50cal and .30cal. I don't think they changed the flight performance any to account for the additional guns to make the F2A2 model (it would really only be slightly heavier) so technically its overperforming.

[EpsilonPineapple]

Originally posted by Hydra | trade.tf:

If you think that's bad, then wait till you go against a good pilot in a F3F-2. That thing can out - turn anything and has a 50 cal to shred you up with.

F3F is terrible. I do massively better flying an a Peashooter in a 2.0-3.0 BR battle.

Anyways, no, the F2A isn't broken. Is it extremely strong against machine gun armed aircraft? It is. But cannon planes rip it apart if they can get the tail or wings. And when it faces planes at the top of its BR range(2.7+), the Buffalo will begin to struggle.

[Spaddobird]

Originally posted by THE GREAT FORUM NECROMANCER:

The premium russian biplane at br 2.0 beats all filthy capitalist planes :)))

All the Russian bi-planes beat EVERYTHING they face, I thought it was a generally accepted fact that they significanly out-turn and out-power everything down below BR 2.0 and lets not even mention the rediculous shika machine guns. If we were to only look at this game from the perspective of a tier 1 player, it would be unquestionably Russian biased.

[EpsilonPineapple]

Originally posted by Spaddobird:

Originally posted by THE GREAT FORUM NECROMANCER:

The premium russian biplane at br 2.0 beats all filthy capitalist planes :)))

All the Russian bi-planes beat EVERYTHING they face, I thought it was a generally accepted fact that they significanly out-turn and out-power everything down below BR 2.0 and lets not even mention the rediculous shika machine guns. If we were to only look at this game from the perspective of a tier 1 player, it would be unquestionably Russian biased.

I rarely see these "overpowered" RU bi-planes. If they were OP, everyone would be using them.

[Flagyov]

xd, im flying a f2a right now

[Flagyov]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1103026284

[Spaddobird]

Originally posted by EpsilonPineapple:

Originally posted by Spaddobird:

All the Russian bi-planes beat EVERYTHING they face, I thought it was a generally accepted fact that they significanly out-turn and out-power everything down below BR 2.0 and lets not even mention the rediculous shika machine guns. If we were to only look at this game from the perspective of a tier 1 player, it would be unquestionably Russian biased.

I rarely see these "overpowered" RU bi-planes. If they were OP, everyone would be using them.

Well the majority of experienced players don't touch bottom tier but believe me, if you know what you're doing in the I-15 you become literally untouchable. The I-15 outclasses the P-26, He 51, Nimrod and Ki-10 in every way. Speed, turn rate, firepower, energy retention, climb rate... I believe one of the I-15s which was removed from the game could actually mount rockets.

edit; It wasn't removed from the game, the players who bought it still have it. It just isn't visible for new players.