buff sherman firefly?

[Dr.King]

sherman firefly need to be buffed a bit

[Dr.King]

Originally posted by Major Jason:

It could use APDS ammo,which widely issued back in ww2.
Also,in my opinion 76mm shermans are better than firefly.

Course they are, firefly is bad for itsBR

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by Dr. King:

Course they are, firefly is bad for itsBR

???
You know the Firefly was originally a 5.0 tank, right? I think it's pretty competitive at 4.7, especially with the Shot Mk 8 ammunition.

[Dr.King]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

Originally posted by Dr. King:

Course they are, firefly is bad for itsBR

???
You know the Firefly was originally a 5.0 tank, right? I think it's pretty competitive at 4.7, especially with the Shot Mk 8 ammunition.

Have you used it, it gets one shotted by any tank due to its 40 mm of armor and 4 crew. It's either crit their turret or your screwed

[Dr.King]

And it isn't to fast

[StingerRPG]

Originally posted by Dr. King:

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

???
You know the Firefly was originally a 5.0 tank, right? I think it's pretty competitive at 4.7, especially with the Shot Mk 8 ammunition.

Have you used it, it gets one shotted by any tank due to its 40 mm of armor and 4 crew. It's either crit their turret or your screwed

Yes. And it is normal. Any Sherman gets instantly ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over unless you're a Jumbo anyway.

[Colonel Jason]

Originally posted by StingerRPG:

Originally posted by Dr. King:

Have you used it, it gets one shotted by any tank due to its 40 mm of armor and 4 crew. It's either crit their turret or your screwed

Yes. And it is normal. Any Sherman gets instantly ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over unless you're a Jumbo anyway.

But at least you can do some damage with your explosive filler ammo but that case never happens with Firefly.

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by Dr. King:

Have you used it, it gets one shotted by any tank due to its 40 mm of armor and 4 crew. It's either crit their turret or your screwed

I have, and I've had some pretty spectacular games in it. Pretty much every tank in the game gets one shotted nowadays, so your main focus should be not to be shot at in the first place.

[Dr.King]

It needs a buff in someway. It is a glass cannon that doesn't even one shot. Lucky if a two shot as well.

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by Dr. King:

It needs a buff in someway. It is a glass cannon that doesn't even one shot. Lucky if a two shot as well.

It's historical. Unfortunately the benefits of solid shot ammunition doesn't carry over into War Thunder. Remember that in real life a penetrating hit almost always meant the crew bailed out of the tank. Hell, sometimes non-penetrating hits would result in the crew bailing.

In War Thunder however you either have to kill 90% of the crew, or detonate the tank, which is why solid shot ammunition is so bad compared to APHE. It doesn't do enough damage.

That being said, APHE is overperforming anyway.

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by Dr. King:

but still, war thunder still has things that arent historical or realistic, like a russian tank with the sam gun as a german one, same type, caliber, and shell having an extra 15 mm of penetration

And which tank would that be?

[Colonel Jason]

Originally posted by Dr. King:

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

It's historical. Unfortunately the benefits of solid shot ammunition doesn't carry over into War Thunder. Remember that in real life a penetrating hit almost always meant the crew bailed out of the tank. Hell, sometimes non-penetrating hits would result in the crew bailing.

In War Thunder however you either have to kill 90% of the crew, or detonate the tank, which is why solid shot ammunition is so bad compared to APHE. It doesn't do enough damage.

That being said, APHE is overperforming anyway.

but still, war thunder still has things that arent historical or realistic, like a russian tank with the sam gun as a german one, same type, caliber, and shell having an extra 15 mm of penetration

Dude,penetration is not comes with caliber,it comes from velocity and shell type.For example US 75mm penetrates 105(dont have exact number but its something like that) at 10 meters but 57mm M1 penetrates 125mm armor at 10mm with M70 shell.

[Dr.King]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

Originally posted by Dr. King:

It needs a buff in someway. It is a glass cannon that doesn't even one shot. Lucky if a two shot as well.

It's historical. Unfortunately the benefits of solid shot ammunition doesn't carry over into War Thunder. Remember that in real life a penetrating hit almost always meant the crew bailed out of the tank. Hell, sometimes non-penetrating hits would result in the crew bailing.

In War Thunder however you either have to kill 90% of the crew, or detonate the tank, which is why solid shot ammunition is so bad compared to APHE. It doesn't do enough damage.

That being said, APHE is overperforming anyway.

But for historical sense, the BR-471 shell for the IS-2 mod. 1944 pierces 160mm at 1000meters, but the actual data sheets put it at 130mm at 1000 meters. The game is not a dead on historical game and the britsh line does need help.

[Illusionyary]

Originally posted by Dr. King:

But for historical sense, the BR-471 shell for the IS-2 mod. 1944 pierces 160mm at 1000meters, but the actual data sheets put it at 130mm at 1000 meters. The game is not a dead on historical game and the britsh line does need help.

Post a bug report on the official forums about that then. I know War Thunder isn't historical, that's a given, it never was and never will be, but things such as vehicle armour and shell penetration are tried to be as accurate as possible.

[Dr.King]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

Originally posted by Dr. King:

But for historical sense, the BR-471 shell for the IS-2 mod. 1944 pierces 160mm at 1000meters, but the actual data sheets put it at 130mm at 1000 meters. The game is not a dead on historical game and the britsh line does need help.

Post a bug report on the official forums about that then. I know War Thunder isn't historical, that's a given, it never was and never will be, but things such as vehicle armour and shell penetration are tried to be as accurate as possible.

I know, but its still a competitive game and having a weaker nation kinda brings the fun outta playing them a bit.

[Dr.King]

Originally posted by Illusionyary:

Originally posted by Dr. King:

But for historical sense, the BR-471 shell for the IS-2 mod. 1944 pierces 160mm at 1000meters, but the actual data sheets put it at 130mm at 1000 meters. The game is not a dead on historical game and the britsh line does need help.

Post a bug report on the official forums about that then. I know War Thunder isn't historical, that's a given, it never was and never will be, but things such as vehicle armour and shell penetration are tried to be as accurate as possible.

also, the shot mk 6 pierces 157mm at 100 meters in game but the same type shell IRL pierced 200mm at 100meters.