Will we get a Me 264 in the Game?

[DerGeneral]

The german Bombers are all ****. meybe if they could get a "Amerikabomber" it would get things a bit better.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_264

[Chaotic Harmony]

Цитата допису go go gadget euthanasia:

Цитата допису Chaotic Harmony:

it can carry 2 15 megaton H-bombs; no.

What's your point? Just because the plane can carry nukes it shouldn't be in the game? The b29 was the first plane to carry a nuke and its in the game.

The B-29 we have was only capable of carrying conventional bombs; many people seem to think the modifications were minor to allow the first atomic bombs to be dropped.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverplate

This is not the case; all defensive arms and armor were stripped. Along with a deep concrete pit at the airfield being needed to even load the bomb; this means not only the specific aircraft was needed but only specific airfields could maintain and arm them.

So the B-29 that was capable of delivering the first atom bombs is NOT in WT; even so the bombload of the B-36 for conventional arms is around 100,000 LBS. The "Big belly" modification for the modern B-52 only allowed it to carry 80,000 LBS (Rotary launchers restrict the payload).

This means that a single bomber could carry a payload capable of ending a game several times over; along with the sheer ability of the thing to climb to the edge of space and matain speed makes it nearly immune to interception by the current top tier WT jets.

Adding aircraft such as the Tu-95,B-52,B-36 would completely and totally destroy balance at top tiers; air AB,RB along with SB would need a complete rework to support them. No airfields in the current game are large enough to land them; even more of an issue is GER,JPN and ITA (France when added as well).

These nations never developed and fielded comparable bombers; due to economics of scale or simply restrictions imposed by their conquerers. Meaning only US,GB and RU would have end game strategic bombers.

Basically maps would need to get MUCH larger; battle times would need to DRASTICALLY increase. Actual strategic targets such as cities and factories would need to be added; airfields would need to become larger. And at the very least first generation radar (Semi-guided) missiles would have to be added for anyone to stand a chance.

It's not just that they carry H-bombs; it's that these planes represent a jump as large as the first all-composite MBT's in terms of balancing and game design.

[DerGeneral]

I man realy guys, the german bomber tree is emty till the Arado 234 comes! in in my opinion the german bombers are the worst in the game

[Kingfish]

Цитата допису General Headdown:

I man realy guys, the german bomber tree is emty till the Arado 234 comes! in in my opinion the german bombers are the worst in the game

The US bomber tree is empty until you get the B-29. Your point?

[DerGeneral]

Цитата допису Thazair:

Цитата допису General Headdown:

I man realy guys, the german bomber tree is emty till the Arado 234 comes! in in my opinion the german bombers are the worst in the game

The US bomber tree is empty until you get the B-29. Your point?

are you kidding me? what do you call empty here?

[Kingfish]

Цитата допису General Headdown:

Цитата допису Thazair:

The US bomber tree is empty until you get the B-29. Your point?

are you kidding me? what do you call empty here?

The B-17's are ♥♥♥♥, the B-24 is ♥♥♥♥, the PBY's are ♥♥♥♥, the B-18 is ♥♥♥♥, and the B-25 is ♥♥♥♥.

[DerGeneral]

Цитата допису Thazair:

Цитата допису General Headdown:

are you kidding me? what do you call empty here?

The B-17's are ♥♥♥♥, the B-24 is ♥♥♥♥, the PBY's are ♥♥♥♥, the B-18 is ♥♥♥♥, and the B-25 is ♥♥♥♥.

But the german bomber are good or what?!

[StingerRPG]

Цитата допису General Headdown:

Цитата допису Thazair:

The US bomber tree is empty until you get the B-29. Your point?

are you kidding me? what do you call empty here?

Every bomber but the B-34/PV-2D/B-29/A-26C are crap.
B-25s are overtiered with the lack of rockets and crap performance, B-17E(G)/B-24D/PB4Y-2 are food, and til the B-29, all of them are pretty defenseless and worthless at BR.
Not to mention the B-18A as the outstanding civ-transport converted plane without a proper tail gunner.
Source: Personal extensive US Bombers experience

[Kingfish]

Цитата допису General Headdown:

Цитата допису Thazair:

The B-17's are ♥♥♥♥, the B-24 is ♥♥♥♥, the PBY's are ♥♥♥♥, the B-18 is ♥♥♥♥, and the B-25 is ♥♥♥♥.

But the german bomber are good or what?!

I never said the German bombers were good. Actually, the Arado is a pretty good bomber, since you can fight in it. Also, the Do 217, Ju-88, and Ju-87 are all not bad.

[DerGeneral]

Цитата допису StingerRPG:

Цитата допису General Headdown:

are you kidding me? what do you call empty here?

Every bomber but the B-34/PV-2D/B-29/A-26C are crap.
B-25s are overtiered with the lack of rockets and crap performance, B-17E(G)/B-24D/PB4Y-2 are food, and til the B-29, all of them are pretty defenseless and worthless at BR.

you want to see something defensless?!?! F***** EVERY GEMAN BOMBER!!!

[DerGeneral]

Цитата допису Thazair:

Цитата допису General Headdown:

But the german bomber are good or what?!

I never said the German bombers were good. Actually, the Arado is a pretty good bomber, since you can fight in it. Also, the Do 217, Ju-88, and Ju-87 are all not bad.

well, never played the Arado but the german bombers and also the Arado are the most defensless planes ever! i mean seriusly, even a a biplane xould take out my FW-200 without truble!

[Kingfish]

Цитата допису General Headdown:

Цитата допису StingerRPG:

Every bomber but the B-34/PV-2D/B-29/A-26C are crap.
B-25s are overtiered with the lack of rockets and crap performance, B-17E(G)/B-24D/PB4Y-2 are food, and til the B-29, all of them are pretty defenseless and worthless at BR.

you want to see something defensless?!?! F***** EVERY GEMAN BOMBER!!!

Have you ever thought that you should play them as ground pounders and not heavy/long range bombers? Because they aren't.

[Kingfish]

Цитата допису General Headdown:

Цитата допису Thazair:

I never said the German bombers were good. Actually, the Arado is a pretty good bomber, since you can fight in it. Also, the Do 217, Ju-88, and Ju-87 are all not bad.

well, never played the Arado but the german bombers and also the Arado are the most defensless planes ever! i mean seriusly, even a a biplane xould take out my FW-200 without truble!

You do realize the Arado is essentially a fighter with large bombs on it, right? Meaning you can just rush the enemy bases, drop your payload, gain that little bit more speed, then fight with it, and reap the rewards from the bombing.

[DerGeneral]

Цитата допису Thazair:

Цитата допису General Headdown:

you want to see something defensless?!?! F***** EVERY GEMAN BOMBER!!!

Have you ever thought that you should play them as ground pounders and not heavy/long range bombers? Because they aren't.

well it would be nice if the gemans would get some heavy long range bombers in the game
He 177, Ju-290, Me-264

[Kingfish]

Цитата допису General Headdown:

Цитата допису Thazair:

Have you ever thought that you should play them as ground pounders and not heavy/long range bombers? Because they aren't.

well it would be nice if the gemans would get some heavy long range bombers in the game
He 177, Ju-290, Me-264

So we can have even more high-tier bomber spam that ends the game in like seven minutes? No thanks.

[DerGeneral]

Цитата допису Thazair:

Цитата допису General Headdown:

well, never played the Arado but the german bombers and also the Arado are the most defensless planes ever! i mean seriusly, even a a biplane xould take out my FW-200 without truble!

You do realize the Arado is essentially a fighter with large bombs on it, right? Meaning you can just rush the enemy bases, drop your payload, gain that little bit more speed, then fight with it, and reap the rewards from the bombing.

could be, but i would like to have some large long range bombers in german tech tree He 177, Ju-290 , Me 264