does this give you malware

[Zixky]

so reading hte revies for ages LOTS of people with 2000+ hours say its not worth it and they only play as its to late to leave as they have put so much money on it. is this worth playing over WoT or is WoT more trusted

[captain gimmick]

It does not give you malware.

[Kozi]

This game is very unrealistic with insane amount of bugs and glitches, WOT has a much better developer team that actually make the game fair and balanced but they have the healthbar system. Which you may or may not like, it also struggles with all the non existent fantasy tanks that they are comming up with, you choose.

[captain gimmick]

Basically, you get to choose between not being realistic and bad devs and some prototype tanks and bugs but a better damage system, or not being realistic with obsence amounts of RNG and 50% of the tanks being fantasy but fairly well balanced.

[Kuro]

Originally posted by Sicky:

so reading hte revies for ages LOTS of people with 2000+ hours say its not worth it and they only play as its to late to leave as they have put so much money on it. is this worth playing over WoT or is WoT more trusted

Closet thing to "Malware" would be gaijin agent which is installed by default when you install wt, however according to gaijin, it doesn't affect performance. Its essentialy a program that runs in the background that scans for WT updates. I'm 99% its safe but i have disabled it anyways. You can disable it from running by clicking on the spanner icon in the war thunder launcher and disabling "Auto-Updates", or if you wan't to go a step further, you can go ahead and disable the permissions to gaijin agent in the games folder to be 100% sure that it can't do anything. Plently of guides on this forum on how to do this, however note you will get errors when doing launcher updates of course as it will try to update gaijin agent when you have denied permission to do so. Just skip updating gaijin agent when it gives you an error and the update should still be perfectly fine from my expierence at least.

So TL:DR: No, war thunder is not malware. War Thunder has been on steam for about 4 years now, so if there was some shady ♥♥♥♥ going down they would lose their place an steam, and therefore likely a large portion of their fanbase as well as legal stuff. Just doesn't make sense from a developers perspective imo..

[Cave Xplorer]

One of my friends got his steam account restricted due to War thunder charging back all his premium things he bought in the last week. He had to make a second account so yes War Thunder is Malware.

[~$$~ BlackCatTheGreat]

Wot is not good, Besides, The so called "Malware" has yet to affect me and i have been playing for quite a while.

[relliK]

Originally posted by Cave Xplorer:

One of my friends got his steam account restricted due to War thunder charging back all his premium things he bought in the last week. He had to make a second account so yes War Thunder is Malware.

well... maybe he shouldn't have bought stuff on dodgy websites, accept 'gifts' from unknown people on Steam or use his moms credit card so she just charged back what he spend ?! -.-

the day Gaijin can affect Valve / Steam (and not vice versa) is the day the world will end...
with other words - this had nothing to do with Gaijin or War Thunder - period. deal with it !

[relliK]

Originally posted by wait I can change this?!?:

Originally posted by Sad_dude_with_a_rude_mood:

Yes, war thunder has malware, infact 90% of the games on Steam do, everybody who's saying it doesn't have malware is probably just a bot, my comment will be deleted soon by the bots because they want as many people to get infected by the malware as possible.

Sarcasm is my favorite type of speech.

it's rather a matter of definition (or opinion)^o^

by the definition of some people even Windows itself is malware (and imho Windows is closer to being malware than War Thunder can ever be >8D) - however as long as people dont mind sharing their views about what malware is, what they think 'malicious' is in general or specifically within War Thunder their opinions are rather useless and irrelevant (just as mines' is about Windows ;)

[Kayneth]

Quite a few people on my friends list, whom i know to be Super Testers or Moderators for Wargaming.net have posted reviews stating that silly Gaijin update client to be malware.

Interestingly, they are the only ones to have bothered with posting a review for War Thunder, a game that many of them barely play anymore...

[relliK]

Originally posted by Sicky:

so reading hte revies for ages LOTS of people with 2000+ hours say its not worth it and they only play as its to late to leave as they have put so much money on it. is this worth playing over WoT or is WoT more trusted

ofc games (especially those with repetitive gameplay) are getting boring at some point - so after 2000+ hours the people really may have to find something else.... BUT... think about it... WHAT made them play 2000+ hours ?

dont you think they may have had quite a lot of fun to even make it that far ?

there are quite a lot of games i've only played for a couple of hours (and sometimes not even a full hour) just because i didnt't like them from the start. so i deleted them pretty much right away (regardless of the fact that sometimes i had paid quite some money for them).

since WT is f2p there is no reason to NOT give it a try imho... especially if you are into the genre and i dont say you should ditch WoT for WT - they are too different to even compare them
(yet again my personal opinion ^^)

btw. trust is irrelevant or even a misconception - in real life but even more on the internet. dont trust anyone or anything ! (opinion guys... just an opinion)

[Blitzkrieg Wulf]

Originally posted by Big Smoke:

This game is very unrealistic with insane amount of bugs and glitches, WOT has a much better developer team that actually make the game fair and balanced but they have the healthbar system. Which you may or may not like, it also struggles with all the non existent fantasy tanks that they are coming up with, you choose.

I wanted to take this post seriously, but I have to wonder, if WT is unrealistic, does that make WoT pure fantasy? WT is far more realistic than WoT, I think most would agree to that. there are perhaps a dozen vehicles that are "fantasy/prototype", and another dozen "prototypes", sure, and both games have to make exceptions to their match maker as far as historical battles are concerned.

To say one developer is better than the other is opinion; WG developers I'm sure are great at what they do, or they wouldn't have a sucessful product. That's a given. WT developers also have a sucessful (and different) product.

To compare the two is like apples and oranges...

Originally posted by Cave Xplorer:

One of my friends got his steam account restricted due to War thunder charging back all his premium things he bought in the last week. He had to make a second account so yes War Thunder is Malware.

A chargeback is related to something going wrong with the purchase sequence and the way to resolve that issue is to contact support, not going around claiming WT is malware and not seeking help. (Or, as relliK has pointed out, making sure that you have permission to spend someone elses money before doing so... Otherwise you end up with a product that Gaijin cannot take back, and you have essentially stiffed them for it...)

Originally posted by Kayneth:

Quite a few people on my friends list, whom i know to be Super Testers or Moderators for Wargaming.net have posted reviews stating that silly Gaijin update client to be malware.

Interestingly, they are the only ones to have bothered with posting a review for War Thunder, a game that many of them barely play anymore...

Read your first line, immediately thought of this...: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/27/how-wargaming-sabotages-competition-war-thunder/
--->Whether it's true or not, I don't know, but if there is any truth of it.... you draw your own conclusions. I am posting this as food for thought, not as flamebait <---


So... Just some food for thought: I used to play WoT too. I don't any more, but it's just because of real life things. I have to spend a lot of my time doing WT related things as a wiki mod and steam mod, and I have to spend a ton of time in college.. Additionally, I like the freedom that WT gives me with one game (planes, tanks, boats) so I stick with WT.

I would imagine it is largely the same case for a lot of their "Super Testers" (Alpha/Beta Testers?) and Moderators.


Now, on to the OP....

Originally posted by Sicky:

so reading hte revies for ages LOTS of people with 2000+ hours say its not worth it and they only play as its to late to leave as they have put so much money on it. is this worth playing over WoT or is WoT more trusted

A few comments:
These people have played for 2,000 hours. Or more. Obviously, this game has to have some kind of content in it to keep people engaged, right?

Some anti-virus systems pick up Gaijin Agent or even all of War Thunder as a "malicious" file/files. This is not unique to Gaijin or war thunder. Games I have played ages ago and re-downloaded onto new computers sometimes say "Boo hoo, this is malicious!" despite having played said game for a long period of time in the past, and know that it isn't.

Some people just get wigged out that a file is running in the background that they don't know what it does, and immediately jump to the conclusion that it is malware, when the (as I understand it) sole purpose is to keep the game updated and prevent long wait times. It does it's intended purpose, and I have never had to wait longer than 2-3 minutes when a large patch drops. Furthermore, you can disable it if it makes you that concerned.

To your final question, it just depends on what you'd like to do. If you're looking for an arcadey e-sports style tank/ship-only game, yeah, WG & WoT/WoWS is probably the way to go. If you aren't looking for an acadey game and don't mind mixed battles, tank RB/SB in War Thunder is pretty good.

[EDSmike74]

War thunder. 400 hours of play and I get fed up.
Game completely unbalance, vehicles and nations and parties.
When I find another game, I would do as much as I size myself.
I would never put 1 euro in a completely unbalanced game.
It should be stupid to put 1 euro in this game.

just look forum since 2015 game unbalanced never resolved.

[kingspliffs]

let's be honest this guy was joking, when he says people with 2,000+ hours say it's too late to leave because they spent money, clearly it means that they bought too much ♥♥♥♥ they can't leave the game for-ever because it'd be a waste in money. Also the malware part was clearly a joke too.

[Mazda RX-7 FC]

Blitzkrieg Wulf you're the real mvp. Great answers.

[Kozi]

Originally posted by Blitzkrieg Wulf:

Originally posted by Big Smoke:

This game is very unrealistic with insane amount of bugs and glitches, WOT has a much better developer team that actually make the game fair and balanced but they have the healthbar system. Which you may or may not like, it also struggles with all the non existent fantasy tanks that they are coming up with, you choose.

I wanted to take this post seriously, but I have to wonder, if WT is unrealistic, does that make WoT pure fantasy? WT is far more realistic than WoT, I think most would agree to that. there are perhaps a dozen vehicles that are "fantasy/prototype", and another dozen "prototypes", sure, and both games have to make exceptions to their match maker as far as historical battles are concerned.

To say one developer is better than the other is opinion; WG developers I'm sure are great at what they do, or they wouldn't have a sucessful product. That's a given. WT developers also have a sucessful (and different) product.

To compare the two is like apples and oranges...

You should take it seriously, as I were 100% serious, not joking or raging on this "game".
The thing what I mean is WOT is not trying to be realistic, they are trying to make a game, which they made, perfectly balanced, all nations have they powerful and weak sides, which as you know WT doesn't have, mostly german and russian tanks are the best, the americans have some good tanks but most of them just suck, the japanase tanks are all bad, only the Type 74 is decent, I won't even talk about the british, and unlike WOT , WT is trying to be as realistic as much as they can, however I still can't penetrate a T54 with my IS-8 which has 280mm of penetration, my T29's hull somehow bounces every single shell it takes, german tigers and panthers which were very slow in real life are faster than mostly tanks in the game, my M56 crew insantly dies when I crash into a hay bay, tank cannons are more accurate than lasers in real life, like seriously I can hit a M56 with my KV-2 2 km away with no problem, and now the worst thing of all, damage, I have shot so many shots into tank where there did basicly no damage even tho they have HE filler, like yesterday, shot a Panther II from the side with my M56, it only got the gunner yellow and the ammo, that's all, I were using APHE shells. Then he/she turns around and hits my window plate and my tanks "hull breaks" (Another very realistic feature guys, ggwp). Actually there is something even worse, in real life you could take out a tank by just hitting mostly anywhere, that's why the british don't have HE filler, why isn't it the same in the game? Why can you repair your engine block which has a 122mm hole in it withing the next 30seconds and then just drive fine?


Please don't take this as hate, I still like and prefer this game over WOT but it has serious problems that needs to be fixed.