missable bosses

[alexv215]

Hi,

I skipped the first boss, which seemed optional to me (the metallic Buddha with spikes on its head), planning to come back for it later. To my surprise, when I advanced a bit further and went back for it, it was no longer there. In this game, do the bosses you don't kill disappear? Has this happened to anyone else, or is it some kind of bug on my end?

[p00se2]

i noticed this as well with the big head baby enemy

i did fight a boss of that type after the game teleported me there but when i went back to the zone and checked the forest there
the enemy with the big head was gone

[[Wahr] Eogard]

Same here, finished act 1, teleported to act 2, came back to act1, killed the "secret" boss in the Temple, went back to the big baby head, wasn't there. Oof.

[YaBoiWill]

Same thing happened to me, which sucks because I know you can have him as a spirit when you defeat him, and now I can't get it.

[alexv215]

I restarted the game to get that spirit -.-

[[Wahr] Eogard]

Ok so it's even worst that what I thought, did a new playthrough and if you fight the Elden baby guy (even without killing him) and even before fighting all the main bosses of act 1, the blue baby guy disappear. It's so bad, they need to patch some stuff because if boss are randomly missable it's just terrible design.

[Shadowlet]

Originally posted by Wahr Eogard:

Ok so it's even worst that what I thought, did a new playthrough and if you fight the Elden baby guy (even without killing him) and even before fighting all the main bosses of act 1, the blue baby guy disappear. It's so bad, they need to patch some stuff because if boss are randomly missable it's just terrible design.

Should they really expect people to just run past the boss in the way of the tunnel?

[猪猪妈]

Unless you want a fix, you better restart the game because I'm at Chapter 4 and the skill you get from that Boss is still the most used and IMO the most powerful one for me, it staggers literally every boss and gives a passive bonus just too good to pass, it's the first skill I maxed out.

I restarted the game because I beat him after a couple of tries and learned later that you were supposed to skip him, turns out that you get his skill after you beat him before you could absorb and learn it yourself.

[Shadowlet]

Originally posted by 猪猪妈:

Unless you want a fix, you better restart the game because I'm at Chapter 4 and the skill you get from that Boss is still the most used and IMO the most powerful one for me, it staggers literally every boss and gives a passive bonus just too good to pass, it's the first skill I maxed out.

I restarted the game because I beat him after a couple of tries and learned later that you were supposed to skip him, turns out that you get his skill after you beat him before you could absorb and learn it yourself.

Daoist is stronger. Free attack buff staff that lasts forever and affects monkey clones too.

Maximum mana passive which is nice

[[Wahr] Eogard]

Originally posted by Shadowlet:

Originally posted by Wahr Eogard:

Ok so it's even worst that what I thought, did a new playthrough and if you fight the Elden baby guy (even without killing him) and even before fighting all the main bosses of act 1, the blue baby guy disappear. It's so bad, they need to patch some stuff because if boss are randomly missable it's just terrible design.

Should they really expect people to just run past the boss in the way of the tunnel?

That's a structural issue the game has. Being able to fight side bosses that are roaming on that map is just QoL at this point. Imagine if the Tree Sentinel disappeared in Elden Ring because you first wanted to get more xp ? There is literally no reason for the baby boss to disappear like that.

[Spoons]

Big head also isn't just some throw away spirit either. He is actually required for something and if you don't have him, you miss out on a whole other hidden boss later in the game.

In the valley of despair when you fight that giant mole-thing that eats his father, there is a red wall and you can use big head to break it. You get some scale item and when you go back to the area where big head is located (forest of wolves/outside the forest), on the far left side, there is a waterfall.

You can only enter with the scale and you get to fight a dragon boss and it gives you a bunch of stuff once you kill it. So not only does skipping big head mean you miss out on an awesome spirit, you also miss out on an extra/optional boss fight with a dragon and a bunch of other stuff later in the game and who knows what else. There could be more walls that require him. I've tried different spirits to break the wall and none of them seem to work.

[Houstonheart]

Some bus areas are linked to other quests. So the answer will disappear engineering. The new game mode kind of like a game plus.

So there are things you do not with a skip, and that includes, unlike hidden, the painted realm, which is very key.

And some bosses are linked to story aspects or other parts that have to be done in a specific way to unlock them.

Later they will return much later though. Or you have to continue with the skills you have into new game plus and being able to go back to areas.

Somehowever that unlocked key things that are linked to story progression will never return Into another playthrough with your current skills.

[Dou B Jin]

Originally posted by Spoons:

Big head also isn't just some throw away spirit either. He is actually required for something and if you don't have him, you miss out on a whole other hidden boss later in the game.

In the valley of despair when you fight that giant mole-thing that eats his father, there is a red wall and you can use big head to break it. You get some scale item and when you go back to the area where big head is located (forest of wolves/outside the forest), on the far left side, there is a waterfall.

You can only enter with the scale and you get to fight a dragon boss and it gives you a bunch of stuff once you kill it. So not only does skipping big head mean you miss out on an awesome spirit, you also miss out on an extra/optional boss fight with a dragon and a bunch of other stuff later in the game and who knows what else. There could be more walls that require him. I've tried different spirits to break the wall and none of them seem to work.

The stone form transformation is an alternative means to unlock them if you don't have the big head.

Side note
The mole will not eat his father if in the previous fight you killed him first instead of the large one. You can still summon the giant rat by throwing an item down.

Also anyone realized how ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the chapter 2's background story is? The Kings and his people were turned into rats and are forced to reproduce to feed Tiger vanguard.

[CHAO$$$]

Originally posted by Spoons:

In the valley of despair when you fight that giant mole-thing that eats his father, there is a red wall and you can use big head to break it. You get some scale item and when you go back to the area where big head is located (forest of wolves/outside the forest), on the far left side, there is a waterfall.

You can use the First Rat prince to break the wall, you dont need the transform.

[Spoons]

Originally posted by 逗逼 Jin:

The stone form transformation is an alternative means to unlock them if you don't have the big head.

Thank you! It worked.

[Spoons]

Originally posted by CHAO$$$:

Originally posted by Spoons:

In the valley of despair when you fight that giant mole-thing that eats his father, there is a red wall and you can use big head to break it. You get some scale item and when you go back to the area where big head is located (forest of wolves/outside the forest), on the far left side, there is a waterfall.

You can use the First Rat prince to break the wall, you dont need the transform.

Yeah but if you already killed them and they didn't break it. What 逗逼 Jin said worked tho