What causes the downvote?

[Theodoros]

Hi all,

I've been thinking about getting OW2 on steam. I've played a bit of OW1 back in 2016 but didn't really get into it. I've seen a lot of negative reviews but many of them don't seem to provide any valid criticisms of the game itself. Would everyone explain as to why the game is being downvoted so heavily? Thank you.

[g0mer3.14]

Game good, company bad.

[SOFAGUS]

universal love for blizzard. You cant say anything on their forums or plebbit or you would get nuked. But here they have no power, thus backlash.
Also some *intellectuals* see tf2 or homophobic conspiracies, but if you check it most reviews are from china and they are 90%+ bad
They just cant handle that their favourite corporation is actually really bad and nobody likes it

[Basarab Laiota]

It's Blizzard's first game on a platform where people can't be banned for being honest (you can easily get banned on Blizzard's forums for being a tiny bit negative). People finally have an outlet to voice their dissatisfaction with Blizzard in general.

The game's changed a lot since Overwatch 1. Some people want the old version because of any number of reasons... whether they think the lootboxes were a better system or they preferred the 6v6 gameplay to the 5v5 or whatever.

[Magma Hunter]

Long story short:
-People loved OW1
-Company announces OW2
-promises stuff like PvE and hero skill trees
-OW2 launches
-Turns out even more predatory than OW1's lootboxes
-New heroes locked behind battlepass because "EnGaGeMeNt"
-OW1 servers are shut down
-Says they can't do PvE stuff anymore (they never wanted to, but waited several months)
-Launches on Steam because 20 million daily active users.
-Did not forsee utter sh*tstorm of giving people a very visible voice
-OW2 now holds title of worst reviewed game on Steam ever (9% out of 126k reviews)

[Mittens]

Ok, so imagine Valve announced Team Fortress 3... But it's the same game with the same maps, and there's a battlepass. They said there was going to be a singleplayer MvM campaign, but cancelled it and started selling mvm missions that were free, for 15 dollars. Demoman is locked behind a paywall, and to play as Heavy, you need to level 50% of that battlepass. Oh, and random drops are removed and everything costs 20 dollars.

That's why the game is the most negatively reviewed game on steam.

[TwisTeD SenSe]

More than 70% of downvotes seem to be from China, so if you wanna know the truth you gotta dig deeper (puts on tinfoil hat).

[Zephyer]

Originally posted by Theodoros:

Hi all,

I've been thinking about getting OW2 on steam. I've played a bit of OW1 back in 2016 but didn't really get into it. I've seen a lot of negative reviews but many of them don't seem to provide any valid criticisms of the game itself. Would everyone explain as to why the game is being downvoted so heavily? Thank you.

Here's a pretty good summary that I saw someone else post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/15q35tm/comment/jw32q7c/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[Zephyer]

Originally posted by TwisTeD SenSe:

More than 70% of downvotes seem to be from China, so if you wanna know the truth you gotta dig deeper (puts on tinfoil hat). :musicskull:

I don't know where people get the data from regarding the exact % of downvotes from China, if you could share it that would actually be super useful as I would genuinely love to see it to get a better overview of the situation.

But even if we assume that 70% of the negative reviews can be ignored because it's chinese players that cannot play as the game is blocked in China then the remaining 30% is still about 35k people which is still considerably more than the 11k positive reviews. We then have to consider the amount of western players that set their steam location to China for one reason or another, like how many changed their location to China for the release of Baldur's Gate 3 since there was no pre-load and the chinese download servers weren't as cluttered with people trying to download the game. So likely the valid negative reviews are likely somewhere well above 35k users which is still a considerable amount and definitely shouldn't be ignored.

Now this is all based on my own math and assumptions regarding the situation. Obviously there are more than a few grey areas in all of this, but I thought I'd offer my speculation and reasoning to the pile.

[Leathium]

I would be rich answering this kind of topics everytime if I get a buck for each topic. Please use the search or google.

[TwisTeD SenSe]

Originally posted by Zephyer:

Originally posted by TwisTeD SenSe:

More than 70% of downvotes seem to be from China, so if you wanna know the truth you gotta dig deeper (puts on tinfoil hat).

I don't know where people get the data from regarding the exact % of downvotes from China, if you could share it that would actually be super useful as I would genuinely love to see it to get a better overview of the situation.

But even if we assume that 70% of the negative reviews can be ignored because it's chinese players that cannot play as the game is blocked in China then the remaining 30% is still about 35k people which is still considerably more than the 11k positive reviews. We then have to consider the amount of western players that set their steam location to China for one reason or another, like how many changed their location to China for the release of Baldur's Gate 3 since there was no pre-load and the chinese download servers weren't as cluttered with people trying to download the game. So likely the valid negative reviews are likely somewhere well above 35k users which is still a considerable amount and definitely shouldn't be ignored.

Now this is all based on my own math and assumptions regarding the situation. Obviously there are more than a few grey areas in all of this, but I thought I'd offer my speculation and reasoning to the pile.

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1690727634492088320 The guy works for a data analytics firm that work in the industry.

If you are lazy to read, here's a youtuber that sums up the issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffe4QkL801A

[Zephyer]

Originally posted by TwisTeD SenSe:

Originally posted by Zephyer:

I don't know where people get the data from regarding the exact % of downvotes from China, if you could share it that would actually be super useful as I would genuinely love to see it to get a better overview of the situation.

But even if we assume that 70% of the negative reviews can be ignored because it's chinese players that cannot play as the game is blocked in China then the remaining 30% is still about 35k people which is still considerably more than the 11k positive reviews. We then have to consider the amount of western players that set their steam location to China for one reason or another, like how many changed their location to China for the release of Baldur's Gate 3 since there was no pre-load and the chinese download servers weren't as cluttered with people trying to download the game. So likely the valid negative reviews are likely somewhere well above 35k users which is still a considerable amount and definitely shouldn't be ignored.

Now this is all based on my own math and assumptions regarding the situation. Obviously there are more than a few grey areas in all of this, but I thought I'd offer my speculation and reasoning to the pile.

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/1690727634492088320 The guy works for a data analytics firm that work in the industry.

If you are lazy to read, here's a youtuber that sums up the issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffe4QkL801A

Cheers!

[Admiral Bum Arse]

Originally posted by Theodoros:

Hi all,

I've been thinking about getting OW2 on steam. I've played a bit of OW1 back in 2016 but didn't really get into it. I've seen a lot of negative reviews but many of them don't seem to provide any valid criticisms of the game itself. Would everyone explain as to why the game is being downvoted so heavily? Thank you.

BECAUSE I AM ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FRUSTRATED. For so many years, I haven't been able to voice my dissatisfaction with this company because of their heavy handed moderation and desperate need to save face. There is no major community for these games where Blizzard can't ban you for speaking out.

Even on the rare occasion where they can't ban their way out of criticism, they just ignore whatever problem they caused and never apologize for it. Warcraft Reforged is still a broken mess, but what Blizzard did instead of fixing the problem is just pretend WarCraft 3 never existed in the first place.

Now that they've stepped out of their carefully curated Subreddits and Battle.net environment, they're finally vulnerable to negative feedback.

[Sibis]

Because game has never been balanced and now is even worse, now OW2 seems a bad copy of Paladins.

[Hyden]

overwatch is amazing, but there are bizarre choices around from company

[Dave from work]

Google sure is hard to use eh?