Eador. Masters of the Broken World

Eador. Masters of the Broken World

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Can i cheat?
Is it possible to cheat at all in this game? Im constantly running out of money, it's a real problem, so i was wondering if i could cheat just a little bit.
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If there no cheat? Then create your own using cheat engine.

http://forum.cheatengine.org/
Ultima modifica da Cuagai; 27 set 2014, ore 19:45
Cheaten ist unmoralisch. Schämt euch.
Messaggio originale di Twiggels:
Cheaten ist unmoralisch. Schämt euch.

The game is so good, and i love it so much, bit's so infuriating when im 100 gold away from winning a 3 hour fight for a shard or something. :berserk:
I WISH i could cheat, just to be on even footing with the AI.

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure your lone capitol province is generating enough income for you to spawn a Commander, Wizard, AND Scout with a level 15+ army full of trolls for you to send barreling towards my capitol EVERY TURN for 10 turns in a row. Yeah, I sure should have taken you out while I had the chance - oh, what's that? You were spamming labyrinth guards the instant I met you? I guess you just got REAL lucky with those drops on those 20% explored provinces.
Ultima modifica da Terra; 4 ott 2014, ore 23:18
Messaggio originale di Terra:
I WISH i could cheat, just to be on even footing with the AI.

Cheating AI is a pretty common way to add difficulty in games like this. I wish it wasn`t that obvious in Eador though.

It`s kind of amazing that game feels unbalanced in the AIs favour even on the lowest difficulty - hi there turn 20 centaur alliance - and if there`s one thing Eador desperately needs it`s better AI that can actually put up a fight without cheating as blatantly as it currently does.
I don't have the time to spend 3 hours on a single shard, so I wish I could cheat just to see the story scenes.
I just love how some people use cheat codes to finish games on "hard" level. As if they are better than the people who play on normal level.
Messaggio originale di Myrdin90:
Is it possible to cheat at all in this game? Im constantly running out of money, it's a real problem, so i was wondering if i could cheat just a little bit.

You can edit Gold and Crystals easily enough with any decent Memory Editor without the hassle of unpacking PAK.files and decrypting saved games. No doubt the Developers didn't mind if the layman decided to modify their games.


Messaggio originale di JohnTheRunningMan:
The save files are encrypted so if you can decrypt them sure. Otherwise no.

This is pretty much the jist of it. Though at least nowadays anyone with a passing interest in the subject can pick up a decrption program and let it do all the work for you. This is one thing that I don't miss about the good old days.


Messaggio originale di Myrdin90:
I mean, are there cheat codes?

There is/was a leaked debugged version of the game that had a Developers Console/Codes installed. You might try looking for that, but don't count on it being as stable as the current updated version of the game.


Messaggio originale di Weiss1705:
If you want you can always google Eador masters of the broken world trainer. Trainers will only work on singleplayer games.

Actually, most Trainers are Multiplayer only. However, since their usually used for personal use their often kept under tight control by the groups and guilds that use them, they don't get a lot of exposure.

Compared to big name brands like Artmoney, Cheat Engine and Cheat Happens whose Training mods are provided under the Singleplayer only creed and usually come with multiplayer disabling safeguards installed.

Messaggio originale di JohnTheRunningMan:
I don't think any of them work since a patch earlier this year or late last year

A quick look at Cheat Happens says the Trainer still works. If you're ever in doubt just check their games Forum. Gamers are an extremely vocal and opinionated lot, PC Gamers especially so. If a Trainer doesn't work, then they'll surely tell you all about it.

Messaggio originale di Myrdin90:
What are trainers exactly? I've never tried them, they sound shady.

A Trainer is a Mod. Essentially it's a scripted Memory Editor with Hotkeys.

A Trainer has one primary use and three secondary uses.

1.) To train a player up gradually until they no longer require it and can play without it.

2.) To allow players who've already experienced the game one way to experiance it anew.
3.) To encourage players that love the lore and story, but hate the grind, to enjoy the game.
4.) Not every gamer is fortunate enough to work less than 42 hours a week, maintain a proper household, uphold social connections and still be able to dedicate endless hours each night to gaming. For those who can't, a Trainer is a decent compromise.


Messaggio originale di Svante:
Well, we have a number of cheat codes for internal use only. I'm not quite sure people will be happy if we release it public one day.

Yeah I though it might be something like that.

Messaggio originale di Svante:
It's like playing Dark Souls with cheat-code, a bit foolishly.

Like I said before "opinionated" and this is coming from one of the games Developers, someone that is under an incredible amount of scrutiny for what they say and how they treat their player base.

Dark Souls however is a good example of what I'd said earlier. That game was hardcore and had you never played any other insanely difficult games of it's kind (hard mode Dead Space comes to mind) then chances are good that your probably still playing it, given up or used a mod.

Even if you were able and the game was only moderately difficult, the grind, oh Lord Buddha the grind! What ghastly business it is indeed. Myself and almost all of my gaming friends (that I know personally) either have full time jobs or full time enrollment/part time jobs. We've got excess cash to burn, but very little time to waste farming and grinding away through samey maps with samey opponents for too little that is often too late.

There is irony here. We're one of the few demographics that actually payed the £80-120 asking price for early console games and accepted it as acceptable. Nowadays we're the only demographic that'll pay £60+ for a game and still think we got a good deal, and yet all too often we're ignored in favor of those who have more time on their hands. I understand why, there are a lot more of them than there are of us, we're also a shrinking demographic as more and more players are growing tired of the constant alienating and have gotten out of gaming altogether.

I could move on to other games, but I think the point has been made.


Messaggio originale di Myrdin90:
Well, i only wanted to know if there are cheat codes because sometimes when i have tried to take over a shard for literally 3 hours it's so increadibly infuriaing to loose just because i was missing that 500 gold or 300 crystals.
I f*cking LOVE the game, it's just so unbelivably frustrating and rage induceing sometimes :p

If that's all you want to edit "Gold and Crystal" then any good hex/memory editor will work. Though you'll have to do the: Set 99 *turn* = 100+ Set to 999 *turn* = 1000+ Set to 9999 *turn* = 10000+ Set to 99999. I'd recommend stopping after that, it doesn't take as long as save editing, but you shouldn't need more than 99999 Gold or 9999 Crystal and wasting more time than required defeats the purpose.

I also like the game a lot, enough to go back to it rather than playing one of the other 200+ unplayed games I have on my Library. Though the first time I played this game I won by a landside, so I turned the difficulty up and I won again and I turned it up again. The game never really got that much more difficult, but oh did it take a long time to complete. At the moment, before I decided to go in the save files and edit my heroes stats, I was at three hours a game and I was still winning by miles.

Now with a souped up hero I can play the game more to my liking, which is a lot like Total War (but without modding stats) which is auto-calculating all my battles, reading everything I can get my hands on, managing the economy and running the kingdom/nation, all of which Eador has in spades. If not for the same enemies, same maps and the constant need to ceaselessly grind away, this would be a perfect game. The Games Designer clearly dropped the ball somewhere along the lines, or is simply an unrepentant sadist. Though as someone who isn't a masochist, I refuse to dance to that sad overly long tune.


Messaggio originale di Svante:
But I must note here that our gamedesigner will kill me in case I allow users to use cheat codes.

An anti-cheat Games Designer is a poor Games Designer. You may not wish to reveal to him that it is still (albeit very tedious) possible to modify the games core files and player saved games. You also might not mention that many players have been using the Steam Achievement Manager to un/lock Steam Achievements for the better part of half a decade now, or that for well over a decade now people have been authentically photoshopping their and others statistics Screenshots for better or worse.

However, if he's not in fact anti-cheat and has merely upped the difficult of doing it, so as a reward for those like myself who've broken through. You may wish instead to inform him that he's doing more harm than good, this game has the potential to have a strong healthy Modding Community, which attracts potential customers that generates more traffic, and if more people enjoying and supporting your game isn't enough, think of the extra revenue.


I can't believe I've been at this for almost five full games of Eador now, I think I'm going to stop here now before I finish my fifth one. I've other stuff to do besides playing Eador.
Ultima modifica da Farsight; 7 apr 2015, ore 6:09
Lower the difficulty setting and/or check out some of the guides ppl have posted on building a solid economy.

Just a slight tweak in the order you build at and doing little things like making sure u disband redundant troops (e.g. sack the slinger right from turn 1, militia are cheaper per turn and have more use as meatshields) and curb over-spending in short terms and avoid hiring expensive units until economy supports it etc make a big difference.

I've seen some guys on vids who are majorly geeked out on doing all the optimum choices. I don't go quite that far (guess I'd have to on hardest setting) and you woudn't need to either, but on most difficulties just following a few key ideas will keep you in +coinage, and some of the tips in guides and lets plays can give a solid basis to go from. I know you said that you don't like to spend hours and hours turtling to win a shard, but you don't actually have to - a lot of the most important choices are early ones made in the opening, so if you were to focus on sharpening up your 'what to do in the first 20 turns' plays, I bet you'd be fine (and it'll feel more satisfying than using cheats to get the job done).

If you've already done that and are instead talking about when you get a consecutive run of really bad luck, that's a different matter. That can suck and does slow down conquering a shard, but I find that doesn't happen all too often (and I take it as a challenge to bounce back from, but if you don't enjoy fighting from the floor and just want to progress quickly then I can understand that might not be for you).
I dedicate a hero to betting on arena matches for gold :) Always bet against warwizards, and death knights (the warrior/wizard classes), thoes guys have such low command, they tend to field goblins vs opponents dragons...and no spells or armor is going to make up for that.
Pubs/taverns, Store +mine/pharmacy/sawmill depending on special resource. 3 things to build in a tile to maximise cash output.
Go to a shard not with that platemail helmet for your first hero but max extra gold income.
Disband unnecessary troops.
Always garrison forts with one stack of your cheapest units (the guys with the pitchforks. Always buy their training building no matter what solely for this purpose).
Disband unnecessary guards. Sometimes all they will do is provide you with advanced notice of the enemy hero's army makeup and feed him some free exp.
Look for guard units that can be money neutral or give extra gold eg Dwarves and Forresters cleverly placed.
Don't break your old traditions, they are lucrative, hint.
Explore those tiles that have run out of space, let them expand.
Winning arena battles is easy with a lvl 1 hero in uber gear with high level troops. Its the hero level that screws you.
Don't eat yellow snow.....
Farsight,

Do you have a table for ArtMoney? Eador seems to be particularly annoying with it with even doing a search for all types I get nothing after one sell item and then the first filter. As for the other issue with how to do the 99 to 100 to 999 to 1000 to 9999 etc.. just buy the cheapest stuff you can and then get to the max then sell and item and then max and rinse repeat.. no turns necessary.

The CH trainer was good for a number of versions and then broke with the March 10th update.
Not to be snarky, but maybe if they put as much effort into fixing some things or coding in some of the nice to haves like changing hero name and pics instead of continuing efforts at stopping people who paid for the game from playing however they want in Single Player there would be more than just hundreds of people playing.. lol
Messaggio originale di phaktory:
Farsight,

Do you have a table for ArtMoney? Eador seems to be particularly annoying with it with even doing a search for all types I get nothing after one sell item and then the first filter. As for the other issue with how to do the 99 to 100 to 999 to 1000 to 9999 etc.. just buy the cheapest stuff you can and then get to the max then sell and item and then max and rinse repeat.. no turns necessary.

The CH trainer was good for a number of versions and then broke with the March 10th update.

For the life of me, I can not get either the save game hack to work or get Cheat Engine to find the memory location for either gold or crystals. I have done a bunch of really vague searches, but I do not even know where to being looking for these locations.
Messaggio originale di phaktory:
The CH trainer was good for a number of versions and then broke with the March 10th update.

According to their website, they released an update to that Trainer just one day before you made your post.

If only adding resources actually made the game less lengthy, alas it just makes the game less grindy. You'll still spend just as much time completing a shard as you would without it.

Messaggio originale di Althis:
Messaggio originale di phaktory:
Farsight,

Do you have a table for ArtMoney? Eador seems to be particularly annoying with it with even doing a search for all types I get nothing after one sell item and then the first filter. As for the other issue with how to do the 99 to 100 to 999 to 1000 to 9999 etc.. just buy the cheapest stuff you can and then get to the max then sell and item and then max and rinse repeat.. no turns necessary.

The CH trainer was good for a number of versions and then broke with the March 10th update.

For the life of me, I can not get either the save game hack to work or get Cheat Engine to find the memory location for either gold or crystals. I have done a bunch of really vague searches, but I do not even know where to being looking for these locations.

Have you tried using the CheatHappens Trainer?

I used Cheat Engine to change the turn counter to see if there would be a modders easter egg for completing the game in 1 Turn. Unfortunately there wasn't one. Though I did get an excessively absurd amount of Astral Points that let me pimp out all my starts from then on out.
Ultima modifica da Farsight; 7 apr 2015, ore 6:37
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