Stolen dreams, Phobos Spy mission

[Bla7e]

So I have been trying this mission for a while and cannot complete it. I am extremely bad at stealth missions and retrieving all 3 data is seriously pain in ass for me. I have only 2 frames- Excalibur and Rhino. I have watched youtube tutorials but every time i make some minor mistake and ♥♥♥♥ up.
So any tips for me. Should i farm other frame before doing this mission?

[Pakaku]

Just keep practicing, because all spy missions can be done with even the most basic frame. No stealth abilities are required, just stealth skills from you as a player. Try to learn the ways around the vault, because there is always a backdoor or pathway somewhere

There is also a steam guide that you might find handy: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=587545211

[Yuki]

In doubt getting a Stealthframe does of course help, also with learning the vaults. However given the background of stolen dreams and phobos, i would assume they may be out of your reach yet except for platinum.

In case of platinum being a possibility, take Ivara. Shes otherwise a pita to farm (which would require, oh snap, spy missions! ;) ) and often suggested for this.
Ash comes second in farming difficulty and would need some decent gear and again progress far beyond Phobos to do so in any reasonable amount of time.
Octavia can do too, requires access to Lua for getting her but is also rather difficult.
And Loki will require you to already be all the way through to Neptune, so possibly out of reach at all (as is Ivara).

Stealth Primes (Loki, Ash) are all vaulted and among the most expensive.

So....for now you may probably want to give Pakaku's suggestion and link a try ;)
And/Or ask for help in the recruitment chat.

[Light]

Try getting Limbo, because he's also good in Spy missions. Either the normal variant by doing the "Limbo's Theorem" quest or the Prime one which is very cheap at the market right now.

Good luck! ^^

[Bla7e]

Ok thanks guys. Will try the guide.
One last question, if i am in vault and there is single enemy, then will killing him with rifle/pistol will raise alarm or do I need to kill him stealthily? Because many times there are 1-2 enemies in vault which are hard to kill stealthily with melee weapons and i am too afraid to try with my Hek and fail again..

[Yuki]

If you kill a single enemy with ONE SHOT, it works.
Out of sight of any others and cameras. If their corpse is spotted-> *wewowewowewowe got an intruder*
However to complicate things they are also usually made especially tough, so stealth kill is the way to go. For you it is most probably the ONLY way to.
If they are just hit and got a split second to hit that button on their forearm or so this will trigger the alarm.
Without invisibility it might thereby indeed be tough to sneak up on them from behind for a stealth finisher. And even a good modded high end hek might have troubles taking them out at once, though im not totally sure about the exact levelrange you are in.

Taking them out is usually ignored, done by stealth finisher (not the fastest way, but i like it, kinda fun and "spy mission stealthy-ish"), or well modded snipers with a headshot. In about that order.
Unless you bring Nova, then you just blow up the whole vault anyways just in case

[Donitsi]

Practicing is the key. Stealth frame only save some seconds because you don't have to wait or kill enemies and cameras.

[9InchNail]

Do you have Covert Lethality? With this mod for Daggers you can instakill unaware enemies without noise. A silent secondary like pox or hikou helps too.

[Bla7e]

^ No sir, I don't have that mod. I think the only option for me is to git gud.

[RokuroCarisu]

Originally posted by Bla7e:

^ No sir, I don't have that mod. I think the only option for me is to git gud.

That's pretty much it. You gotta learn the layout of the datavault rooms and how to avoid their guards and traps. And most importantly; don't rush.

[Yuki]

Reminds me Wukong is another neat non stealth alternative. He can pass through some lasers as a cloud. And hes pretty much newcomer friendly. Self heal, survivability, always a teammate in his pocket!
And is available as prime in prime access, just sayin *cough cough*

[Okami Mischief]

ah, yes that mission. I recall doing it twenty plus times, and more or less loosing my cool over it. You really do not need a stealth frame if you do not need one, however you do need:

1) Time. This is one of those you need to go slow, listen to sounds of enemies, such as where are they coming from. I get that you want to get from point "A" to point "B" as fast as you can, but you really need to observe and be hypersensitive aware of your surroundings.

2) Which leads into this part. There are more then one (no alarm) way to get to the terminals. Like when you are going down the elevator pay attention to the wall. You will notice two vents. Wall hoping up will get you in and by-pass some of the path to the terminal.

3) A weapon with silent, or even a hush mod. If you want to get close up and personal I would suggest a good melee weapon. I suggest the Orthos which is MR2, or the CassoWar which is MR5, though my own bias is Cassowar is it helped me make my way around the entire star chart.

4) take time away from the game if it is getting to you. Trust me, for ever player that says they got all three terminals with zero alarms and cleared the tileset in under five/ten minutes (something I question anyway), there are just as many players that got frustrated derping it.

Side note; and though this is going to sound really cryptic, there are a few more spots where you are going to feel this frustrated, like the chains of harrow mission requirements. No shame in asking for help from those that do have stealth frames.

[Gyrmadet]

Originally posted by Bla7e:

^ No sir, I don't have that mod. I think the only option for me is to git gud.

I feel you, I hated that mission, probably did that ten times before completing it for good.

[Handoiron]

Don't be too discouraged by fails here, these tilesets for corpus spies are used in higher ranges as well with small changes like a few extra cameras.

This means that once you get good at making it through them, you're going to use that experience moving forward.

With the exception of Jupiter which was just revamped, these tilesets are the same ones corpus will use through the entire star chart.

[Lunacy]

Getting Loki or Ivara helps a ton. While you can do Spy without invis, invis is massive crutch as you can often just walk straight up to each terminal, just gotta avoid corpus lasers still.

[towerbreak]

Originally posted by Bla7e:

So I have been trying this mission for a while and cannot complete it. I am extremely bad at stealth missions and retrieving all 3 data is seriously pain in ♥♥♥ for me. I have only 2 frames- Excalibur and Rhino. I have watched youtube tutorials but every time i make some minor mistake and ♥♥♥♥ up.
So any tips for me. Should i farm other frame before doing this mission?

Get Shade and there goes invisibility. Get ciphers, easy. Shoot cameras. Done.