Is Fallout Wanderers Edition (FWE) worth it in 2021?

[=CrimsoN=]

I usually always use FWE since it integrates a lot of mods into a single huge convenient mod and it has a lot of compatibility patches for other large mods.

But I've been reading that FWE is both outdated (it hasn't been updated since September 2010) and conflicts with a ton of other mods. Especially newer mods that never had compatibility patches made for them.

So whats the general consensus?

[MBK]

Don't use it as it's incompatible with many mods. Always avoid mod bundles like FWE for F3 or Project Nevada for FNV, if possible, look for individual mods that do the specific things you like about FWE instead, like a crosshair mod or a sprint mod

[=CrimsoN=]

Originally posted by 傭兵BK:

Don't use it as it's incompatible with many mods. Always avoid mod bundles like FWE for F3 or Project Nevada for FNV, if possible, look for individual mods that do the specific things you like about FWE instead, like a crosshair mod or a sprint mod

Yeah that’s mostly what I’ve been reading. Just curious of the general opinion. I’ve already modded Fallout 3 with a ton of mods that are meant to replace FWE. But idk... sometimes I miss FWE. But it doesn’t sound like it’s worth the headache.

[kdodds]

Avoid. Also MMM and EVE.

[=CrimsoN=]

Originally posted by kdodds:

Avoid. Also MMM and EVE.

EVE has issues too? That would be hard to give up. Since I really love EVE and no replacement really exists. EWE isn’t the same thing.

Luckily I haven’t used MMM for years.

[kdodds]

EVE has compatibility issues. Patches exist but, ime, a game with EVE loaded (even with patches) isn't as stable as a game without. Same with FSR, btw.

[=CrimsoN=]

Originally posted by kdodds:

EVE has compatibility issues. Patches exist but, ime, a game with EVE loaded (even with patches) isn't as stable as a game without. Same with FSR, btw.

Yeah. I know FSR causes crashing on Windows 10. I've been using the tick fix as a replacement.

On a totally unrelated note. Do you use any ENB presets? Or have any recommendations? I've been using Dynamo ENB from New Vegas and while it looks downright gorgeous, the performance hit is pretty huge in some areas. For example, I often use the back of the Springvale Elementary School as a sort of FPS testing ground because from certain angles, ENBs like Dynamo can drop my FPS from 60 straight into the 40s.

I've used Midrashic in the past and never had any performance issues with it, but it just doesn't look as good as Dynamo. But that might be the only option. The cool thing with Dynamo is that it covers up the horrendous neck seam (with its Ambient Occlusion) that can be seen with body replacers without having to use some automatic neck seam concealer mod.

[15543641354361]

Fwe is the only mod for increasing enemies IA and aggressivity with also XFO, but XFO only focuse on IA and agressivity meanwhile FWE add weapons etc ....
MMM is the only mod to increase enemies's number.
There is FOO K too but i don't think it change enemies AI , only add weapons and armors.

SO when you say , "don't use fwe nor mmm..." cause it's not compatible, ok , but then what to use if want better AI and more enemies than in Vanilla ?

At this point , they are the only mods to use to make the game harder.

fwe, mmm, and even the more outdated xfo are outdated but we have nothing else.
of course if the ai agressivity and numbers of enemie are not important to you, then don't use.
i've played with fwe + mmm or foo k + mmm or xfo + mmm nad it still kinda works when you choose the options you need and disable the one you don't want.
Of course it crashes some times. but as i said, we have no other choices.

[=CrimsoN=]

Originally posted by Theokoles:

Fwe is the only mod for increasing enemies IA and aggressivity with also XFO, but XFO only focuse on IA and agressivity meanwhile FWE add weapons etc ....
MMM is the only mod to increase enemies's number.
There is FOO K too but i don't think it change enemies AI , only add weapons and armors.

SO when you say , "don't use fwe nor mmm..." cause it's not compatible, ok , but then what to use if want better AI and more enemies than in Vanilla ?

At this point , they are the only mods to use to make the game harder.

fwe, mmm, and even the more outdated xfo are outdated but we have nothing else.
of course if the ai agressivity and numbers of enemie are not important to you, then don't use.
i've played with fwe + mmm or foo k + mmm or xfo + mmm nad it still kinda works when you choose the options you need and disable the one you don't want.
Of course it crashes some times. but as i said, we have no other choices.

I usually use the Combat-Enhanced Tactics mod by taylorsd to handle AI.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/6492?tab=description

It's not a major overhaul like XFO but it gets the job done. Allows the AI to take cover, use stimpacks in combat, flee larger distances, etc. It's even compatible with XFO and FWE apparently. I've always used it.

[kdodds]

Originally posted by =CrimsoN=:

Originally posted by kdodds:

EVE has compatibility issues. Patches exist but, ime, a game with EVE loaded (even with patches) isn't as stable as a game without. Same with FSR, btw.

Yeah. I know FSR causes crashing on Windows 10. I've been using the tick fix as a replacement.

On a totally unrelated note. Do you use any ENB presets? Or have any recommendations? I've been using Dynamo ENB from New Vegas and while it looks downright gorgeous, the performance hit is pretty huge in some areas. For example, I often use the back of the Springvale Elementary School as a sort of FPS testing ground because from certain angles, ENBs like Dynamo can drop my FPS from 60 straight into the 40s.

I've used Midrashic in the past and never had any performance issues with it, but it just doesn't look as good as Dynamo. But that might be the only option. The cool thing with Dynamo is that it covers up the horrendous neck seam (with its Ambient Occlusion) that can be seen with body replacers without having to use some automatic neck seam concealer mod.

Well, I don't use body replacers, just not my thing, so I wouldn't notice what you're talking about. I do use Midhrastic. All of my screens are while running Midhrastic.

[thaygiaomap2000]

Originally posted by =CrimsoN=:

Originally posted by kdodds:

Avoid. Also MMM and EVE.

EVE has issues too? That would be hard to give up. Since I really love EVE and no replacement really exists. EWE isn’t the same thing.

Luckily I haven’t used MMM for years.

eve & mmm is a must have mods , no mods replace those 2