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sneakyweazel Aug 25, 2021 @ 9:56am
Toughness perk, how many ranks?
Does it really have only one rank?
Don't get how one should get up to 85% damage res without many ranks of this perk. Am i missing something?
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Originally posted by Road to Noob:
I don't know if u found out but Toughness only has 1 rank in fallout 3. What they mean is that damage res caps at 85% so that u can't become invincible but u only get 10% damage res from the perk.
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kdodds Aug 25, 2021 @ 10:20am 
From what I recall, it's 10% per rank, up to 85%. So maximum benefit, after 9 ranks, is 85%. It will take you, in other word, 9 level ups to get there. IIRC, level cap for the unmodded GOTY is 30. So that would be just shy of 1/3 of all of your possible level ups.
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sneakyweazel Aug 25, 2021 @ 10:27am 
This is what i was afraid of. I have one rank of it but it is missing from my perk list upon leveling up.
https://imgur.com/a/8ILUS5e

What to do?
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kdodds Aug 25, 2021 @ 11:20am 
Well, unless you plan on running naked into gun fire, I'd say just move on and pick something else. The game is easy enough that you really don't need it. Personally, I find the rad reduction perks much more valuable. But even still, not necessary.
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sneakyweazel Aug 25, 2021 @ 11:42am 
I have enough stimpacks that is for sure... hopefully. But this bug annoys me since looking up those coming perks, there are few must haves but otherwise it is kinda junk, and was looking forward to keep on using light armor -the RPG element- and still be able to tank heavy fire :steamhappy:

In hopes that some modder picks this up and decides to help, here is recent save file... just kill those 3 super mutants on upper level to level up
https://dropfiles.org/NfhN0Uud

Really would like to know what has caused this bug and what else might happen
Thanks in advance!
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kdodds Aug 25, 2021 @ 12:36pm 
There is no doubt that FO3 is flaky. I could be wrong on multiple ranks, but I don't think so. It can get wonky at times. For example, I completed the Project Purity quest line last night with the PC entering. Although this is the GOTY, and Broken Steel was installed, and running, I got the ooooold pre-DLC ending. Twice. From the same save I save right before trying. Third time was the charm. I also, for whatever reason, sometimes have a drop (X) button when using a controller, and sometimes don't. No rhyme or reason to it.
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sneakyweazel Aug 26, 2021 @ 12:58am 
If your suggestion was to keep on hammering that level up, then i have done that but no luck. Still no toughness perk on the list.

Looking for some editor that runs on linux to manually try and edit the save file. All tips& tricks are welcome!
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Road to Noob Aug 28, 2021 @ 9:42am 
I don't know if u found out but Toughness only has 1 rank in fallout 3. What they mean is that damage res caps at 85% so that u can't become invincible but u only get 10% damage res from the perk.
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kdodds Aug 28, 2021 @ 12:45pm 
^^^ Was just coming back to post exactly that. I leveled up twice last night and remembered to take Toughness the first time and look for it the second time, it's 1 level, 10%. If that 10% would take you over 85% cumulative max, it stops at the max of 85%.
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sneakyweazel Aug 28, 2021 @ 2:24pm 
Well, that kinda sucks. Was looking forward to using just normal clothes :steamsad:
But at least now i don't have to restart or modify save file... saves a lot of trouble. Found my way to some wiki yesterday
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_Resistance#Fallout_3
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kdodds Aug 28, 2021 @ 2:42pm 
You can still create an ultra tough PC that can probably make it through to end game. You just have to concentrate on END, AGI, and LUC, and then take all of the bonus defensive buff perks immediately and use the armored vault suit. You won't be able to tank in, but with a run/sprint mod, you can easily lay mines and kite your way to victory.
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sneakyweazel Aug 28, 2021 @ 3:23pm 
Well, those mods and the 6% Dam Res from "Survival Guru" will have to wait until i get this vanilla play-through done and after that the gog version relaunching. Oh, the RPG-element strikes back :steamhappy:

Got my specials kinda right with bobbleheads to str and int
https://imgur.com/a/h76DoEI
Will take almost perfect perk upon leveling to 30, if i ever make it that far

BTW; Heard any chatter about a mod that lets you unleash the whole vats swarm of bullets in real time, with out looking every shot and crit effect each time?
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kdodds Aug 28, 2021 @ 6:50pm 
There are two I know of. Search Fast VATS on Nexus. One is just speedy and the other slows down for the dramatic kill cams/crits.

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sneakyweazel Sep 1, 2021 @ 7:23am 
Thank you kdodds,
Will try that one tho it is not quite what i was looking for. Maybe i am looking for a perk. Something like
Rifle profiency (LVL 12)- Handling rifles has become the second nature for you, and now you hop in-and-out of vats just to mark the target before unleashing superhuman swarm of bullets at your enemys weak points.
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