i wish this game was good

[Eroma ⧊]

5/10 locally 1/10 online. Seems fun but everything is annoying in this game. It's too simple and rewarding for mashing buttons. every grab and most tilts borderline combo into themselves with no finesse needed. just hit button win game. cc is broken and if you don't use it you lose. rarely do you feel outskilled but constantly out cheesed. also weird furry vibes are for freak losers. doesn't really matter what i say though, dead game is dead

[StuckInWashingMachine]

Publicado originalmente por Eroma ⧊:

5/10 locally 1/10 online. Seems fun but everything is annoying in this game. It's too simple and rewarding for mashing buttons. every grab and most tilts borderline combo into themselves with no finesse needed. just hit button win game. cc is broken and if you don't use it you lose. rarely do you feel outskilled but constantly out cheesed. also weird furry vibes are for freak losers. doesn't really matter what i say though, dead game is dead

Yeah everyone feels the same way. This game is both hard core and simple at the same time. Easy to learn, but hard to master is the term people love to throw around for modern gaming and how it's considered a good thing, but people are starting to catch on to how lame that actually is.

[effy p]

game is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ good, get good

[Vic Viper]

It's good, but it released way too early. Maybe it was a publisher mandate and/or they were confident to release it the same way Rivals of Aether 1 did (which was a lot less).

As for the criticism from OP: Everything gameplay related can pretty much apply to most versus fighting games. Nobody will argue that you cannot steal rounds by occasionally mashing/aggressively attacking at low to mid levels, even in renowned games like Soul Calibur II (and the rest of the series, frankly).

"Weird furry vibes" always sounds like a strange observation that tells me chronically online people from today wouldn't survive kids shows & video games from the 80s & 90s, and I never know what to make of this. Star Fox games from the 2000s are a lot "weirder" than this, kids shows like Road Rovers or Thundercats are "weirder" than this. It's like the Spiderman 1994 vs 2024 "respect minorities" meme except the arguably weirder stuff from decades ago is shielded because it's considered mainstream.

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

It’s very unfortunately clear this game is unfinished and was released for funding purposes. Hopefully some of its flaws get ironed out over time, but as of right now it’s just not in a good state.

[Songbird]

Surely you win every game, then, since it doesn't take any skill to hit buttons.

[ZooL]

Publicado originalmente por ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2:

It’s very unfortunately clear this game is unfinished and was released for funding purposes. Hopefully some of its flaws get ironed out over time, but as of right now it’s just not in a good state.

this is the main problem. an early access game, that was put on the store as "full" release because of funding issues.

[Elliana Enjoyer]

I have had nothing but a good time with this game. Don't know what to tell you, sounds like a skill issue frankly.

[FrankenFrank]

Skill issue, will refund comment if you post a screenshot of you in at least plat.

[wpykdg]

Publicado originalmente por Eroma ⧊:

5/10 locally 1/10 online. Seems fun but everything is annoying in this game. It's too simple and rewarding for mashing buttons. every grab and most tilts borderline combo into themselves with no finesse needed. just hit button win game. cc is broken and if you don't use it you lose. rarely do you feel outskilled but constantly out cheesed. also weird furry vibes are for freak losers. doesn't really matter what i say though, dead game is dead

Give it time. ^^

[Sajev]

Played 8 ranked games, lost every round, got 2 kills, I'm new to fighting games. Makes me remember why I don't play them, this experience was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horrible. Will probably refund the game...

[Vic Viper]

Publicado originalmente por Sajev:

Played 8 ranked games, lost every round, got 2 kills, I'm new to fighting games. Makes me remember why I don't play them, this experience was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horrible. Will probably refund the game...

This game will definitely not change your mind on fighting games, in the same way someone with the same experience as you do in fighting games but for shooting games will not feel at ease even in lighter shooters like Fortnite in a lobby full of actual players. Maybe hero shooters like Overwatch or Marvel Rivals with heroes that don't require pinpoint accuracy, but that's about it.

But basically, an opponent that moves and strikes "too fast" in a platform fighter hits the same way as an opponent in a shooting game that somehow shoots you down with a scopeless assault rifle in less than 2 seconds from 100m away with less than a clip.

There're people who lament the lack of in-depth tutorials (which are also missing in all Smash games, but no one really cares there), but ingame training/tutorial modes for understanding why and how "X" and "Y" obscure mechanic work are only the first step. Practicing the knowledge in real situations is a whole different story, I miss 30% of my wavedashes despite knowing how they work, and I still don't feel I can gain an advantage from them at my level.

The only ways to surmount this are either learning through failure, or looking for a player willing to help you through, or improving through fighting repeatedly another player that's new (or offline against bots).

Regardless, it's always a bad idea in fighting games to instantly go into online PVP fights without prior training, and that goes for most kinds of PVP games too.

[Plum]

You must be rank 1 if all you have to do is mash?

[SwordSaint]

Publicado originalmente por Sajev:

Played 8 ranked games, lost every round, got 2 kills, I'm new to fighting games. Makes me remember why I don't play them, this experience was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horrible. Will probably refund the game...

So you just give up every time? What did you expect? To outplay players who put more time than you? Lol what

[nzm]

I agree it's more outcheesed with mashing than outclassed in a lot of cases. I truely think end lag would help this game (not to multiverses level) cause wiff punishing is too difficult in a lot of scenarios. Baiting doesn't really reward you and in a platfighter thats a huge part of it.

[Sajev]

Publicado originalmente por Vic Viper:

Publicado originalmente por Sajev:

Played 8 ranked games, lost every round, got 2 kills, I'm new to fighting games. Makes me remember why I don't play them, this experience was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horrible. Will probably refund the game...

This game will definitely not change your mind on fighting games, in the same way someone with the same experience as you do in fighting games but for shooting games will not feel at ease even in lighter shooters like Fortnite in a lobby full of actual players. Maybe hero shooters like Overwatch or Marvel Rivals with heroes that don't require pinpoint accuracy, but that's about it.

But basically, an opponent that moves and strikes "too fast" in a platform fighter hits the same way as an opponent in a shooting game that somehow shoots you down with a scopeless assault rifle in less than 2 seconds from 100m away with less than a clip.

There're people who lament the lack of in-depth tutorials (which are also missing in all Smash games, but no one really cares there), but ingame training/tutorial modes for understanding why and how "X" and "Y" obscure mechanic work are only the first step. Practicing the knowledge in real situations is a whole different story, I miss 30% of my wavedashes despite knowing how they work, and I still don't feel I can gain an advantage from them at my level.

The only ways to surmount this are either learning through failure, or looking for a player willing to help you through, or improving through fighting repeatedly another player that's new (or offline against bots).

Regardless, it's always a bad idea in fighting games to instantly go into online PVP fights without prior training, and that goes for most kinds of PVP games too.

I wrote up a full review of my experience, the gist of why I played Ranked right after the tutorial is because I live in UK and on the 5-7 EU servers not a single casual game was found while waiting for match. So Ranked was the only game mode that I could get into a game.

Publicado originalmente por SwordSaint:

Publicado originalmente por Sajev:

Played 8 ranked games, lost every round, got 2 kills, I'm new to fighting games. Makes me remember why I don't play them, this experience was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horrible. Will probably refund the game...

So you just give up every time? What did you expect? To outplay players who put more time than you? Lol what

No I didn't give up a single game, I really tried my best from what I learned playing the 3 tutorials. It just felt like people were LEAGUES ahead of me and it made for a terrible new player experience, am I bad at fighting games? absolutely. The thing that I have a problem with is that for new players, the experience is pretty bad.