Just not gonna play against Clairens anymore, tbh

[LaSaia]

They're boring. They all play the exact same. Sometimes it might take a stock to figure out whether I need to shield more or throw more, but then they're free after that.

So I'm done with this boring ass matchup. I'm not playing it anymore. My apologies in advance, but if you pick Clairen against me, I'm gonna run around and stall the timer as much as I can in the first match and then alt f4 out of the game.

[Gamefreak]

Everyone plays each character the same as the other people playing the same character. What even is that argument lol. This isn't Tekken or SFIV where there's a ton of room for player expression.

İlk olarak LaSaia tarafından gönderildi:

if you pick Clairen against me, I'm gonna run around and stall the timer as much as I can in the first match and then alt f4 out of the game.

Thanks for the win? Lmao.

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

İlk olarak Gamefreak tarafından gönderildi:

Everyone plays each character the same as the other people playing the same character. What even is that argument lol. This isn't Tekken or SFIV where there's a ton of room for player expression.

İlk olarak LaSaia tarafından gönderildi:

if you pick Clairen against me, I'm gonna run around and stall the timer as much as I can in the first match and then alt f4 out of the game.

Thanks for the win? Lmao.

he mentioned in another post that 90% of their matches were against clairens and it appears that hasn't changed. He stated that because of this, he's basically ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the match up to a science and can now crush almost every one. Because of how common they are, and because this seems to be a persistent issue, he is finding that playing the same match up over and over again against the same cringe character isn't all too fun.

[SKiV_]

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İlk olarak Gamefreak tarafından gönderildi:

Everyone plays each character the same as the other people playing the same character. What even is that argument lol. This isn't Tekken or SFIV where there's a ton of room for player expression.



Thanks for the win? Lmao.

he mentioned in another post that 90% of their matches were against clairens and it appears that hasn't changed. He stated that because of this, he's basically ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the match up to a science and can now crush almost every one. Because of how common they are, and because this seems to be a persistent issue, he is finding that playing the same match up over and over again against the same character isn't all too fun.

i drop and come back to SF6 every few months due to this exact reason. Nothing but damn shotos. and im running into this issue with Loxodont here too rather than clairen. fighting game players are all boring as ♥♥♥♥ whether its platform 2d or 3d fighters. 90% of the player base plays 2 or 3 characters despite diverse casts.

[Urufi faux champion]

Thanks for the win

[Ereson]

İlk olarak SKiV_ tarafından gönderildi:

i drop and come back to SF6 every few months due to this exact reason. Nothing but damn shotos. and im running into this issue with Loxodont here too rather than clairen. fighting game players are all boring as ♥♥♥♥ whether its platform 2d or 3d fighters. 90% of the player base plays 2 or 3 characters despite diverse casts.

This is not a valid complaint here. There's three criteria for why people pick a particular character in a fighting game. Play style, aesthetics, and how strong they are in the meta. For instance I like Elena in SF3 because of her long reaching normals (Zoning), she's in a bikini-like attire, and she's upper mid tier.

Most people who like fighting games like myself only want to learn at most 4-6 characters, but ONLY if it has a huge roster like SSBU, or Vs Capcom series where there's tons of variety.

For all other fighting games, it's 2-3 because it takes a long time to get really good with any one character, and I don't want to be mediocre with everyone I play. I'd rather specialize with 2-3 characters I genuinely have fun playing so I can win more often.

[ZooL]

İlk olarak Gamefreak tarafından gönderildi:

Everyone plays each character the same as the other people playing the same character. What even is that argument lol. This isn't Tekken or SFIV where there's a ton of room for player expression.

this must be one of the biggest "low skill" take on the entire forum. this game has a TON if player expression. Just looking at two top players using the same char will make you think these are indeed two different chars.

on topic:
yes, clairen has a very straight forward and easy gameplan. most people just follow that since it is good enough against most people they face. only at the top level does the char become more nuanced. Other chars open up much earlier.

[Feritas]

I honestly feel the same. Its just not fun fighting this developers pet anymore. They can have their win, i dont give af. Im just out. Its boring, the tipper hitbox is cringe af and that projectile destroying counterbubble is over the top.

[Ereson]

I think a lot of the arguments against seeing Clairen everywhere will be solved when another newcomer gets added that's also relatively easy to play at a moderate level.

Who were the easiest to play characters from Rivals 1 who haven't been added yet?

Who were the hardest characters to play in Rivals 1 too?

[ciswhiteheterosexualmalenumber2]

İlk olarak Ereson tarafından gönderildi:

I think a lot of the arguments against seeing Clairen everywhere will be solved when another newcomer gets added that's also relatively easy to play at a moderate level.

Who were the easiest to play characters from Rivals 1 who haven't been added yet?

Who were the hardest characters to play in Rivals 1 too?

Most of the straight forward characters that were op in the first game were already added. Only simple characters in the roa1 roster than I can think of that fit the bill are etalus and Olympia.

[Scraps]

I'm almost exclusively a casual player who mains Forsburn, and I feel like it's more diverse in that format. There's no stakes and people tend to experiment more with difficult or awkward characters like Wrastor and Orcane. Pretty good if you want to see some more uncommon match-ups.

Yet, it's staggering how frequently I win a round only for my opponent to switch to Clairen for the win.

[Weaselly]

İlk olarak Ereson tarafından gönderildi:

I think a lot of the arguments against seeing Clairen everywhere will be solved when another newcomer gets added that's also relatively easy to play at a moderate level.

Who were the easiest to play characters from Rivals 1 who haven't been added yet?

Who were the hardest characters to play in Rivals 1 too?

Hardest to play is tough to say.

Hardest to play 'effectively' would probably go to Absa or Elliana? Absa took a bit of know-how, and Ellie needed a good bit of resource management. Most Rivals 1 characters had a low skill floor, but a high skill ceiling.

[SKiV_]

İlk olarak Ereson tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak SKiV_ tarafından gönderildi:

i drop and come back to SF6 every few months due to this exact reason. Nothing but damn shotos. and im running into this issue with Loxodont here too rather than clairen. fighting game players are all boring as ♥♥♥♥ whether its platform 2d or 3d fighters. 90% of the player base plays 2 or 3 characters despite diverse casts.

This is not a valid complaint here. There's three criteria for why people pick a particular character in a fighting game. Play style, aesthetics, and how strong they are in the meta. For instance I like Elena in SF3 because of her long reaching normals (Zoning), she's in a bikini-like attire, and she's upper mid tier.

Most people who like fighting games like myself only want to learn at most 4-6 characters, but ONLY if it has a huge roster like SSBU, or Vs Capcom series where there's tons of variety.

For all other fighting games, it's 2-3 because it takes a long time to get really good with any one character, and I don't want to be mediocre with everyone I play. I'd rather specialize with 2-3 characters I genuinely have fun playing so I can win more often.

Lemme clarify. I dont mean each person can play 2 or 3. I mean you only see the same 2 or 3. Like in SF6. the majority of the player base plays Ryu, Akuma, and Ken. I wasnt trying to say every player should learn every character. Sorry if that wasnt clear.

[Ereson]

İlk olarak SKiV_ tarafından gönderildi:

Lemme clarify. I dont mean each person can play 2 or 3. I mean you only see the same 2 or 3. Like in SF6. the majority of the player base plays Ryu, Akuma, and Ken. I wasnt trying to say every player should learn every character. Sorry if that wasnt clear.

So what you really mean is you wish people would play more than one unique play style when playing against them in a fighting game.

That's definitely more understandable, since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have similar playstyles, and even have a lot of overlapped moves. You'd prefer they play something like JP, Ryu, and Kimerly for variety sake.

In fairness, I can't stand playing Dragon Ball Fighter Z because EVERY character plays like a rush down character, it's pretty frustrating if you like Zoners like myself.

[SKiV_]

İlk olarak Ereson tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak SKiV_ tarafından gönderildi:

Lemme clarify. I dont mean each person can play 2 or 3. I mean you only see the same 2 or 3. Like in SF6. the majority of the player base plays Ryu, Akuma, and Ken. I wasnt trying to say every player should learn every character. Sorry if that wasnt clear.

So what you really mean is you wish people would play more than one unique play style when playing against them in a fighting game.

That's definitely more understandable, since Ryu, Ken, and Akuma all have similar playstyles, and even have a lot of overlapped moves. You'd prefer they play something like JP, Ryu, and Kimerly for variety sake.

In fairness, I can't stand playing Dragon Ball Fighter Z because EVERY character plays like a rush down character, it's pretty frustrating if you like Zoners like myself.

I just dont wanna fight the same character over and over. After 100+ hours it gets boring. Having to fight Clairen 9 times out of 10 makes the game bland in this case.

[OwO Enjoyer]

clairen = no rematch