Looking for a New Mouse for GNU/ Linux

[Enigmatic]

Any one have good idea for a good mouse?
Preferably one without proprietary firmware under the hood. I have a newer razer mouse but it is awful for firmware. Do not want a repeat. My older mouse is really simple but now is not working so well clicking and stuff.

How is logitech? Much under the hood? I want something super simple without much going on. Preferably a mouse without fancy features. But still good for gaming. As I do not want to deal with proprietary firmware or need software to unlock features.

Just something that I do not need anything special for just plug and go and not have to deal with firmware inside the mouse being proprietary.
Razer is a no go for me regarding that. Any one any experience with logitech?

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Steelseries Rival 310 paired with the FOSS software "piper" has worked wonders for me

[Houtworm]

I have a Logitech G903 Lightspeed, And I also use Piper for the configuration, great on Linux, it remembers its settings between computers. No need to have software running, But very handy to set it up :)

[Enigmatic]

Thank you.. :)
Bad experience with my Razer Mamba honestly

[Kiba Snowpaw]

Good, I'm too looking for one i have a Logitech Gaming Mus G502, and it sucks on Linux since it can re-command the layout since Github doesn't work. Can you get a mouse with only 1 DPI since i ner change mine, and i mostly change it in the game itself?

i like the Steelseries i have a sensei Rew myself on my other pc but have not tried Rival 310, so i don't know about that one.

[Marlock]

folks with Razer mouses, have you tried OpenRazer?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/1694969361100777223/?ctp=3#c3094509155626590644

I'm not sure how the opensource project handles actual firmware parts (eg: if firmware updates can be done or simply ignored), but at least some advanced configs can be dealt with properly, right?

[Enigmatic]

All you can do is change the lighting. Key bindings don't work easily.

As for firmware. Yeah you could ignore. But honestly, I can't when it is proprietary. I couldn't rebind keys. I couldn't set macros like you can on synapse. It's good hardware but it is detected like a keyboard. And as such, yeah proprietary firmware.

[Visualvengeance]

I am using a cheap but good wirless mouse, the Logitechj g305, works out of the box on Linux and no configuration needed. From my experience mice with 6 or less buttons work nice out of the box, but anything more than that can be iffy. Also changing DPI on some mice is also iffy, since most mice makers don't provide the software for Linux as well. I am buying mice which are good out of the box, like the g605 it doesn't need Logitech's horrible software to be set up and it just works.

I heard good thing about Zowie and rocat too so those are an option too I guess, but I personally did not use them myself

[gg catPls]

I recently bought a Razer DeathAdder V2 for fps games and osu! (the accuracy and tracking of my old mouse was really bad in comparison to my new mouse).
I just looked up good gaming mice and found that via the openrazer [pacman AUR] driver Linux support for this mouse should be fine without anytime needing to use some proprietary driver by Razer themselves.

I use it on Windows and Linux without problems besides that the configuration and installation on Windows is the horror (like there are now multiple razer processes running, I need to install multiple programs and the configuration is just so bad in general).

What is nice that with software like polychromatic [pacman AUR] you can not only turn off the LED lights of the mouse (this is specific to the currently connected PC) but also configure for each profile a specific DPI (this will be saved on the mouse and transcend all connected PCs) and the profiles can be switched via a button on the bottom of the mouse so no software needed and really easy and nice to use (I created multiple profiles for games next to a default one).

I use the mouse now for 3 months and am super happy (my aim got so much better and I got so much better at osu! too), the USB cable and the mouse are much more light than before so that it feels really good and it feels like there is no cable.

Disclaimer: I did not create any shortcuts, have LED effects turned off or did something else more specific and do only use one DPI for each profile. I also configure the mouse from time to time both on Linux and Windows (which seems to work fine).

EDIT: Also all mouse buttons were instantly supported (the back and forward button) and in wine and native games (and software like discord) I could always map keybindings onto the available mouse buttons without any problems.

[Enigmatic]

I had good experience with my Razer Abyssus. It's been going strong for years and years. But however, new mice are bloated. I like them simple with good dpi, low latency and high refresh rate/ polling rate. Steel Series seems pretty sweet. Logitech obviously caught my eye. It looks like good hardware. But some have firmwares and their software is not very nice :)
Ah Osu! , That is a good test for a mouse. :) But yeah mice that save settings and stuff. I don't want that extra stuff. As simple as possible without giving up too many buttons :)

[thetargos]

Piper and libratbag work rather well for my G502. The only issue I have is sometimes Windows games running under wine, when you switch off and on applications will cause the game to stutter like hell when input events are sent and in some games even cause framedrops to 1fps, BUT that only happens if poll rate is set to 1 KHz, and only when leaving the game (alt tabbing, using the Steam overlay) a couple of times and getting back to it will consistently trigger this behaviour, setring the poll rate to 500Hz gets rid of it.

I find I can live with that compromise. A 2 ms poll interval is waaaay faster than the time required for a visual stimulus to reach the visual cotex and the the motor neurons to effect the muscles in my forearm and the tendons to then move the mouse. I don't play competitive FPS, anyway. And most of my games won't run at 500 fps all the time in my rig anyway, so...

[Kiba Snowpaw]

Originally posted by thetargos:

Piper and libratbag work rather well for my G502. The only issue I have is sometimes Windows games running under wine; when you switch off and on, applications will cause the game to stutter like hell when input events are sent and in some games even cause frame drops to 1fps, BUT that only happens if the poll rate is set to 1 kHz, and only when leaving the game (alt-tabbing, using the Steam overlay) a couple of times and getting back to it will consistently trigger this behavior, setting the poll rate to 500Hz gets rid of it.

I find I can live with that compromise. A 2 ms poll interval is waaaay faster than the time required for a visual stimulus to reach the visual cortex and the motor neurons to affect the muscles in my forearm and the tendons to then move the mouse. I don't play competitive FPS, anyway. And most of my games won't run at 500 fps all the time in my rig always, so...

Yes, and no it works where you can change the DPI and keys. But with g-hub, i can turn off keys and DPI, so i only have 1 and turn off the keys i keep hitting when I play games like CSGO i cant do that with Piper. So it works, just not fully as i want.

Why do you have the mice "poll rate is set to 1 kHz"? That doesn't make sense. The polling rate (or report rate) determines how often the mouse sends information to your computer. And you want that as high as you can get it and then lower the DPI. 1000 The polling rate would be best, but some like to have them on 500 but never on 1. What does The polling rate have to do with FPS? Most of my games don't get near 500 FPS, and that's with a 2070 super, and i do play FPS, but in most games, i use a controller, not a mouse, because they are just better for that. But as i said, don't pull down The polling rate but pull down the DPI instead and only use The polling rate as a final adjustment to make it as you want when the DPI can do it. Also, i have never seen my pc stutter turning on and off applications while playing but then again, why would you do that while playing and not before or after.

i play on Ubuntu, and you can see how my games are running on my Youtube channel.

[Zyro]

Originally posted by GNU Enigmatic:

I want something super simple without much going on. Preferably a mouse without fancy features.

I'm using a Cherry MC-2000, but I guess that's not the kind of mouse you're looking for.
But maybe this is some help?
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/openrazer-300-expands-with-many-new-razer-devices-supported-on-linux

[King Dude]

I recommend the Logitech M510[www.amazon.com]mouse.

[thetargos]

Originally posted by Kiba Snowpaw:

Also, i have never seen my pc stutter turning on and off applications while playing but then again, why would you do that while playing and not before or after.

I did not express myself correctly, sorry. I meant that leaving the game window for a little while and getting back to it a couple of times (not closing and opening, that 'solves it'), even if it is through the overlay in Steam, will cause this behaviour, but only if polling rate is set to 1kHz, and only for games running on Wine/Proton, and only if using the mouse for input (i, e. Input events are sent from the mouse). I can leave it at 1kHz and use a controller and no problem, use only the keyboard, no problem, use native Linux games, no problem. Only happens in Wine. First discovered this in Killing Floor 2 then consistently corroborated it with Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2.

So my guess is that when the input is not sent directly to Wine (due to not having focus), it gets 'trapped' and for 'some reason' the computer (X11 input, libinput, kernel?) Struggle to send the input signal to Wine causing the dips (kind of feels like buffer underruns). It is so exotic, that I have not filed a bug on this. And setting the poll rate to 500 Hz solves this, anyway (and I do not notice any perceptible inaccuracy in my input). Then again, I may have not experienced any other method, and hence, I'm used to it.

[Kiba Snowpaw]

Originally posted by King Dude:

I recommend the Logitech M510[www.amazon.com]mouse.

Wtf AA battaries who the ♥♥♥♥ use that today beside in TV controllers.