Grim Dawn

Grim Dawn

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Scar Nov 19, 2022 @ 12:56pm
Genuinely Sad Ending
I was really hyped on this game. Played numerous hours on different classes, but never finished the base game completely. Today I took the plunge and finished the game and... what a let down. No way for $25 should it be allowed to sell an incomplete story mode game. Altogether the game was very short from start to finish and I didn't even make it past level 40 before beating the FINAL boss. Tbh the story dlc should be apart of the base game for the price. There's so many unanswered questions still. :steamsalty:

edit: The game was on sale for $6 when I picked it up so it's hard to really complain at all. For that price the game was great! Could even expect a cliff hanger into DLC content. But for anyone who paid the full amount, the story being left where it was is a miss.
Last edited by Scar; Nov 19, 2022 @ 1:11pm
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Blake Nov 19, 2022 @ 1:15pm 
Well you're lucky as I've completed the game many times yet I still have no idea what the story is about.
Scar Nov 19, 2022 @ 1:26pm 
Originally posted by SkyFall:
Well you're lucky as I've completed the game many times yet I still have no idea what the story is about.
Taking the time to read the lore notes you find adds a lot of context to what you're doing and what is going on around the area.

Also do you have the AoM DLC? I am curious if that adds in anything context to things later on in the game.
Blake Nov 19, 2022 @ 1:32pm 
Yes I've read all the lore notes several times and have both DLC. I still don't understand the story...I just play this as a looting game. Kill, upgrade, kill, upgrade etc.
Scar Nov 19, 2022 @ 1:59pm 
Originally posted by SkyFall:
Yes I've read all the lore notes several times and have both DLC. I still don't understand the story...I just play this as a looting game. Kill, upgrade, kill, upgrade etc.
Could you give me an estimate on how much extra content AoM dlc gives?
Is it just as long as the base game or longer?

If case you forget the base game basically ends at the Fort Ikon.
DirtyMick Nov 19, 2022 @ 2:00pm 
Yeeeah... i don't even really know the story after 1200 hours. It's not really the appeal of these types of games. More about builds and stats. But I do understand you can still expect a decent story or one that wraps up nicely, and be disappointed by it. I respect that. Sorry it sucked lol xD
germality Nov 19, 2022 @ 7:14pm 
Originally posted by DirtyMick:
Yeeeah... i don't even really know the story after 1200 hours. It's not really the appeal of these types of games. More about builds and stats. But I do understand you can still expect a decent story or one that wraps up nicely, and be disappointed by it. I respect that. Sorry it sucked lol xD

Diablo 2 had a good story. Diablo 3 has a good story. Wolcen has a decent story. Dungeon Siege 3 has a good story. Pretty sure there are others as well.
Scar Nov 19, 2022 @ 7:38pm 
Originally posted by corrupted-file:
Originally posted by DirtyMick:
Yeeeah... i don't even really know the story after 1200 hours. It's not really the appeal of these types of games. More about builds and stats. But I do understand you can still expect a decent story or one that wraps up nicely, and be disappointed by it. I respect that. Sorry it sucked lol xD

Diablo 2 had a good story. Diablo 3 has a good story. Wolcen has a decent story. Dungeon Siege 3 has a good story. Pretty sure there are others as well.
I think Grim has a good story so far. To be fair, I don't know it yet due to it being locked behind dlc. But from the base game I think it could be really good. D3 was a really good story all the way through and would be hard to compete with.

I asked the other guy, but if you have the AoM DLC could you guesstimate how much extra content is given? Is it about the same as the base game or is it more/less?
Dracuras Nov 19, 2022 @ 8:16pm 
Originally posted by Scar:
Originally posted by corrupted-file:

Diablo 2 had a good story. Diablo 3 has a good story. Wolcen has a decent story. Dungeon Siege 3 has a good story. Pretty sure there are others as well.
I think Grim has a good story so far. To be fair, I don't know it yet due to it being locked behind dlc. But from the base game I think it could be really good. D3 was a really good story all the way through and would be hard to compete with.

I asked the other guy, but if you have the AoM DLC could you guesstimate how much extra content is given? Is it about the same as the base game or is it more/less?

DLC's add a fair bit to the overall story, AoM campaign is roughly same size if not a bit bigger, direct tie in to the end of base game. 2 new classes, additional features, higher level and devotion cap, quality of life improvements as well.

FG DLC adds a sort of side story, bit shorter campaign but it has some tie ins here and there from the previous ones. Adds another class, adds a ton of new items and even more improvements, including items to help fast track new characters once you've gotten one to certain points in Elite or Ultimate.
Last edited by Dracuras; Nov 19, 2022 @ 8:18pm
Here's an early comparison, though a lot more has been added to the game since Zantai made it.

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/t/forgotten-gods-vs-ashes-of-malmouth-vs-grim-dawn-comparison/48646

Also you haven't finished the game, you've just finished Normal difficulty. There are 2 more difficulties to get through. When you reach a certain hostile faction rep you'll trigger their Nemesis boss to spawn. Also there is a secret quest which is only available on Ultimate difficulty.

As for wrapping up the story, that doesn't happen even with the expansions. Yes, a lot is made clearer, but there are several storylines left open for a possible future GD2 - which we're all hoping Crate will get around to making in a few years' time.
kekkuli Nov 20, 2022 @ 1:46am 
No idea about the story after almost 4000 hours :steamhappy:

And i like it that way. I've never played this type of games for the story.
Wintermute Nov 20, 2022 @ 3:46am 
Originally posted by Scar:
Could you give me an estimate on how much extra content AoM dlc gives?
Is it just as long as the base game or longer?

If case you forget the base game basically ends at the Fort Ikon.

There's no conclusive ending neither in AoM nor in FG. You only set back the major forces, but you never save the world completely. Arguably, by the time you're done with FG, you leave the world under worse threat than before. But you do get some answers out of it. Especially from FG.

I'd say AoM is about half of the main game, just in terms of running through the quests. FG is about 1/3.
Bowy Nov 20, 2022 @ 4:27am 
Well, you see, Crate decided to sell out and make an entirely different game than complete the story that launched their studio. They even went so far as to abandon their engine to make that game, which is very costly, and thus tells us Crate has no intention of finishing Grim Dawn.
Originally posted by Bowy:
Well, you see, Crate decided to sell out and make an entirely different game than complete the story that launched their studio. They even went so far as to abandon their engine to make that game, which is very costly, and thus tells us Crate has no intention of finishing Grim Dawn.

Lol, what are you drinking? I'd like some. I'll let the head honcho at Crate answer that.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/219990/discussions/0/2259062250949121088/?tscn=1590379155

We know they're working on a new generation of the GD game engine so it's certainly not "abandoned". They'll be using it to make their pre-GD era RTS game and probably GD2 when they decide to get back into the ARPG genre.
The_Mess (Banned) Nov 20, 2022 @ 4:44am 
Originally posted by corrupted-file:

Diablo 2 had a good story. Diablo 3 has a good story. Wolcen has a decent story. Dungeon Siege 3 has a good story. Pretty sure there are others as well.
lolwut?

Go read a decent book or a hundred of them and you'll find out Blizzard is crap at stories, and is rather prone to eye-rolling bad story telling... aka if D3 were a book I'd throw it away in disgust. It wouldn't be the worst book I've read mind you, which was actually published by a major sci-fi publishing house, and yet, was so bad I gave up in 10 pages. And this was before I had read hundreds of other stories and learnt about tropes etc.
The_Mess (Banned) Nov 20, 2022 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by Bowy:
Well, you see, Crate decided to sell out and make an entirely different game than complete the story that launched their studio. They even went so far as to abandon their engine to make that game, which is very costly, and thus tells us Crate has no intention of finishing Grim Dawn.
Ahahahahahahahaha!

What thou a fool art, Crate worked on GD since long before the kickstarter, and by the time they got done with Forgotten Gods were understandably looking to make a different type of game. And GD's engine wasn't suitable for making a town builder, so they went with Unity instead. Though the RTS is going to be on the updated and overhauled GD engine iirc, which they are current working on in the background.

Grim Dawn 2 will come when they've finished Furthest Frontier, the RTS and the survival game they also working on. And if you'd bothered following GD's story you would have realised that GD was basically done to build the game lore and set up the following games arc. Because we face a higher mad primordial god know as C'thon and have to defeat them to save Cairn. And it will quite the journey to get to able to face and defeat the dead god.
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