Is Panetti's Replicating Missile usable at high levels now?

[Blind]

It used to not scale well enough to do anything at high levels, but it's been a few patches.

[Rhorge]

They did buff the scaling in the recent patch but for some skills you need legendaries/mis that have skill modifiers to be viable endgame. Also consider how easy it is to proc other skills with it and skill up with those

[Blind]

Ya, I think that might have been the problem - I didn't have any endgame proc items, and lesser/devotion procs are better triggered by Aether Ray or almost every other skill

[mikeydsc]

When I tried PRM a couple years ago - I abandoned that toon by the end of vet mode - to me its not very good at all. Maybe for trash mobs but against champs and bosses - terrible. I would like to know if anyone ever got it to work at end game without BiS gearing.

[myhr2]

BiS gearing as in legendaries and sets, or as in double rare MIs? Because full legendary builds are quite doable once you have a character that can farm a little (and I don't mean Gladiator Crucible 150-170 in less than 7 minutes, but more like Gladiator 100-150, Nemesis, and maybe Lokarr, reasonable things for a build capable of finishing Ultimate)

[Jigramunt]

Yes it is

[Lanka]

Maxed, with elemental seeker devotion skill it quite literally melts everything. So, I'd say yes.

[Faust Wither]

there so much modification i think it will be workout for endgame.
i create some theory Panetti's Replicating Missile build: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/0V0QzGoZ

[Coffe with Cream]

That was my build when I used to go with panetti AAR,
Now I changed to Allagast for fun
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2dv1dJZ

[Safarel]

Here is build from mad_lee, which annihilates everything, based on lightning panetty http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80197
Here is my, mostly based on fire
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/r2B3a3BV

[RodHull]

In short yes its very viable end game but yes you need gear to make it work, as is the case with many builds based on low level abilities. Unbuffed as a vanilla skill its only really effective vs trash mobs

[Matthew]

I've been tweaking this character just waiting for FG.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4ZDJYjw2

In short, PRM is the same as it was in vanilla, more or less. It clears entire screens of trash ezpz, but slow on single targets unless you have very specific gear. And even with that gear, damage is only say 7/10. Decent resist reduction with ~75k sheet dps.

The above link could squeeze out a tad more damage, but I play on HC and prefer the over-resists and higher health total. Doesn't matter, reaching an extra 5k sheet dps, another 200 OA isn't going to magically turn the skill into a single-target killer.

It isn't all bad though. You fill the screen with pretty lights.

[RodHull]

Originally posted by Matthew:

I've been tweaking this character just waiting for FG.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4ZDJYjw2

In short, PRM is the same as it was in vanilla, more or less. It clears entire screens of trash ezpz, but slow on single targets unless you have very specific gear. And even with that gear, damage is only say 7/10. Decent resist reduction with ~75k sheet dps.

The above link could squeeze out a tad more damage, but I play on HC and prefer the over-resists and higher health total. Doesn't matter, reaching an extra 5k sheet dps, another 200 OA isn't going to magically turn the skill into a single-target killer.

It isn't all bad though. You fill the screen with pretty lights.

Out of interest why not go with Mythical spellgaze and Arcanum Sigillis? In tandem they give great bonuses to PRM

[The_Mess]

My Sorcerer's broken 90K dps and isn't too shabby, and should actually be a bit better with the changes to Thermite Mine and Blast Shield: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4ZDJYjw2

So far running through Ultimate difficulty, the only boss it's had trouble with was the Aetherial Nemesis, otherwise it deletes everything it faces and has okay kill times for bosses. Probably going to try changing the relic though.

[Matthew]

Originally posted by RodHull:

Originally posted by Matthew:

I've been tweaking this character just waiting for FG.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4ZDJYjw2

In short, PRM is the same as it was in vanilla, more or less. It clears entire screens of trash ezpz, but slow on single targets unless you have very specific gear. And even with that gear, damage is only say 7/10. Decent resist reduction with ~75k sheet dps.

The above link could squeeze out a tad more damage, but I play on HC and prefer the over-resists and higher health total. Doesn't matter, reaching an extra 5k sheet dps, another 200 OA isn't going to magically turn the skill into a single-target killer.

It isn't all bad though. You fill the screen with pretty lights.

Out of interest why not go with Mythical spellgaze and Arcanum Sigillis? In tandem they give great bonuses to PRM

Has Shaman as second mastery, not Inquisitor. And I was killing Lokarr with it and wanted the extra resist reduction. I suppose I could try the helmet, if I have it, and see if it makes a difference but I'm not sure it is that much better than 1 to arcanist skills, 10% resist reduction.

As for the weapon, similar thing. I actually don't know how the comparison works without trying it, but flat elemental from the scepter and the additional PRM skill ranks... not sure if the pistol would be much better if at all.

The main difference would be to benefit from life leech, which would then free up some devotions for more OA or whatever. I'm not too concerned either way, I was just updating an older character and it still does all the content just fine. The shoulders could probably technically be replaced, and the pants/gloves are mostly for the OA, which is severely lacking on Druids. So damn hard to replace the medal as well... hard to beat the stun resist and large amount of pierce/vitality.

[Matthew]

511 Cunning requirement on that pistol