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Deepblue Oct 27, 2020 @ 6:51am
Eldritch nemesis
Good god how do you beat this thing.
The crystals he spawns appear to give him his health back over time if you don't destroy them fast enough but he doesn't regain bits of health at a time, more like half his health in a second.

Sometimes he doesn't heal at all and I've almost got him and then he just gets all his health back anyway when he's almost dead.

Sometimes he even spawns more crystals.

I'm basically locked in an endless fight with a nemesis I want to kill and is very rare to find.
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Enfild Oct 27, 2020 @ 6:56am 
Sounds like you have not enough damage. Link your build, then we will talk
Tatoomba Oct 27, 2020 @ 6:59am 
the real problem is finding him
Faust Wither Oct 27, 2020 @ 7:10am 
move it away from the crystal.
https://youtu.be/HJ8G9k91Da8
Deepblue Oct 27, 2020 @ 7:19am 
Think it's because I'm on a pet build and have that npc from the Bysmiel quests helping out, can't really move him around that much
Faust Wither Oct 27, 2020 @ 8:07am 
Originally posted by Deepblue:
Think it's because I'm on a pet build and have that npc from the Bysmiel quests helping out, can't really move him around that much

then try move your pet, and maybe you should avoid that fight if you can't defeat it yet.
OrbPlaytime Oct 27, 2020 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by Deepblue:
Think it's because I'm on a pet build and have that npc from the Bysmiel quests helping out, can't really move him around that much

Maybe you are trying him too low level or without the ideal gear, or without strong resist reduction skills.
Pet builds can take him down pretty fast from my experience if you are using the higher level faction pet gear along with some select MI item drops and a bit of epic or legendary.

But he is a Nemesis so no guarantee a build should be able to tackle them comfortably, unlike main story content.
Last edited by OrbPlaytime; Oct 27, 2020 @ 9:06am
Deepblue Oct 27, 2020 @ 9:22am 
I think it's just because I can't destroy the crystals fast enough, my resists are almost all overcapped and I'm max level (on ultimate right now)

It's not so much about tackling him comfortably because my pets and I don't take much damage, the trouble is the fact that the fight just doesn't end.

Hopefully next time I meet him, he won't be close to that friendly gargoyle npc (who won't die because I'm trying to keep eye of dreeg up for damage and it heals him) and I can move him around a bit.
Last edited by Deepblue; Oct 27, 2020 @ 9:23am
not sure what you're getting at, the sound of it as if you're relying on the Bysmiel guardian npc that only spawns in 1 of Kaisans places, - what would you do when you meet Kaisan in one of his other 543 spawn locations?
it's already been said how to handle it; up your dmg, and/or move Kaisan out of range of the crystals quickly, it's doesn't change with/without the bysmiel npc, that's what you have to do to handle him
OrbPlaytime Oct 27, 2020 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by Tatoomba:
the real problem is finding him
Yep, ended up doing the whole of freaking FG region yet again to find him lol.
Amazed no-one has suggested that there should be a fixed point for 1st encounter and once killed then becomes random, with this applying to all Nemesis, or at least a few logical places with a much higher chance to spawn at.
Kinda pain to kill them all on a single character otherwise.

And to emphasise your point, on GoG less have managed to kill Kaisan on any difficulty (so includes Elite) than doing L25 Ultimate SR/kill Morgoneth on Ultimate amongst other challenges.
Primary reason IMO is because no-one can freaking find the lazy $£%£$% with his zillion timeshare places he owns in Korvan Basin :)


Last edited by OrbPlaytime; Oct 27, 2020 @ 9:43am
OrbPlaytime Oct 27, 2020 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by wespe___o=/:*:
Originally posted by Deepblue:
Think it's because I'm on a pet build and have that npc from the Bysmiel quests helping out, can't really move him around that much
Pet-builds (at least top3) shouldn´t have big issues unless you lack Gear or play Hybrid.. If Pet-builds can´t clear content.. it´s really tough :gobble:

Originally posted by OrbPlaytime:
on GoG less have managed to kill Kaisan on any difficulty (so includes Elite) than doing L25 Ultimate SR/kill Morgoneth on Ultimate amongst other challenges.
Primary reason IMO is because no-one can freaking find the lazy $£%£$% with his zillion timeshare places he owns in Korvan Basin :)
GOG is full of "Pro-Noobs" and a ton of people to play a game just once. Real Gamers are found at STEAM where people drop hundreds of hours into individual games :krlvlup:
No matter what games I play.. eg. TombRaider-series or GhostRecon Wildlands or anything else.. many just know how to play the game successful. Same with GrimDawn.. many here know at least the basics and a lot advanced stuff..often have several highly developed chars ..-> that makes Coop so much easier :steammocking:
LOL.
More seriously though I bet the stats here will also show a lower % completing killing Kaison on any difficulty compared to those that completed SR25 Ultimate/Morgoneth on Ultimate/killing 10 Nemesis/etc, just like GoG.
And tbh if one can do those one can comfortably kill Kaison on any difficulty, especially Elite.
The difficulty challenge is finding him :)
Last edited by OrbPlaytime; Oct 27, 2020 @ 1:06pm
you can make a build that can easily handle Ultimate SR 25, but the same build won't necessarily handle worldmap Kaisan
as an ex, just as a proof of concept i made a 100% vendor geared char that beat SR 50, provided the boss combo wasn't sucky (and ignoring Nems during chunks) - that same character stood no chance at beating Kaisan in the basin because of his ridiculous phys resist etc - it was a 2h phys FW build :steammocking: just wouldn't make a dent in Kaisan and his regen
Last edited by gNuff!~©~gNom3™; Oct 27, 2020 @ 1:20pm
OrbPlaytime Oct 27, 2020 @ 1:37pm 
Originally posted by gNuff!~©~gNom3™:
you can make a build that can easily handle Ultimate SR 25, but the same build won't necessarily handle worldmap Kaisan
as an ex, just as a proof of concept i made a 100% vendor geared char that beat SR 50, provided the boss combo wasn't sucky (and ignoring Nems during chunks) - that same character stood no chance at beating Kaisan in the basin because of his ridiculous phys resist etc - it was a 2h phys FW build :steammocking: just wouldn't make a dent in Kaisan and his regen

In my context I am talking about defeating Kaisan on Elite with the other stuff on Ultimate; the achievement is possible on Elite looking at the list.
Your SR50 with vendor gear was on Ultimate?
I guess it comes down to class and that is at both extremes/outliers of our contexts.

Edit:
And worth noting much less play Ultimate compared to Elite on GoG (probably same here) when it comes to the Nemesis achievements.
So those Ultimate achievements have even more weight when they are beating Elite ones statistically.


Last edited by OrbPlaytime; Oct 27, 2020 @ 1:42pm
ye Ultimate
and aye Elite Kaisan/nem status is definitely obtainable, but i'm guessing at that point people either aren't thinking of "going back" for an achievment, or are at a lvl stage where they struggle with him more. i still think SR25 can be a cakewalk compared, don't think i have a single toon that's not done the quest for the points, but i have several i don't want to run into Kaisan on/steer clear
OrbPlaytime Oct 27, 2020 @ 1:44pm 
Interesting statistic on GoG.
Slay 10 Nemesis (Elite or Ultimate) completed 3.3%
Slay Kaisan (Elite) completed 0.7%.
should probably count around 90%+ of those 3.3% coming from people that killed Kuba. Seems to be the most frequent way people are getting that after AoM released
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Date Posted: Oct 27, 2020 @ 6:51am
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