anyone using familiar, mend flesh skill?

[MotherBird]

1sec cool down
and not bad healing
this numbers look worth spend some skill points
but actually in game, it does not
it is rarely seen this stupid bird does heal someone and it heals only 1 ally at once

[Faust Wither]

here a thing that i considering not raising it, the familiar AI triggered by a ally unit that lose some of % of health (maybe around 70%), Blood of Dreeg do the job mostly. maybe if dev change that skill to somekinda chain healing it will be worth.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Faust Wither:

here a thing that i considering not raising it, the familiar AI triggered by a ally unit that lose some of % of health (maybe around 70%), Blood of Dreeg do the job mostly. maybe if dev change that skill to somekinda chain healing it will be worth.

Its not so bad as it sounds. I run my pet cabalist with 2x hellhound, Blight, 10x skeletons, Familiar and Skeleton servant from Dirge relic (yah, small army:-)

In majority of fights it is Blight that generate most threat and is punished for that. (in other words he is single pet that take damage in encounter - rest - unless some heavy aoe that is not overhealed by blood and devotion healing procs - only if Blight is dead, respectively it is time when servant or hellhoudns are targeted, skeletons usually only if rest pets is dead). For that it is fine he is targeted by extra healing beside blood of dreeg spam.

[Faust Wither]

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

Originally posted by Faust Wither:

here a thing that i considering not raising it, the familiar AI triggered by a ally unit that lose some of % of health (maybe around 70%), Blood of Dreeg do the job mostly. maybe if dev change that skill to somekinda chain healing it will be worth.

Its not so bad as it sounds. I run my pet cabalist with 2x hellhound, Blight, 10x skeletons, Familiar and Skeleton servant from Dirge relic (yah, small army:-)

In majority of fights it is Blight that generate most threat and is punished for that. (in other words he is single pet that take damage in encounter - rest - unless some heavy aoe that is not overhealed by blood and devotion healing procs - only if Blight is dead, respectively it is time when servant or hellhoudns are targeted, skeletons usually only if rest pets is dead). For that it is fine he is targeted by extra healing beside blood of dreeg spam.

nah i still wont even bother bother, it heal 4%+ 110 health in level one, at max it heal 15% + 685 which required 16 points of skill. is not worth. and i think my minion still invicible than me.

[Včelí medvídek]

I invested jsut single pioint to it. Honestly for me it is if take Familiar or not at all. As he has several skill points boost from items and I consider Storm spirit aura as nice boost to squad elemental dmg and resist (even if it should go to overcap) tthan single point to mend is easy choice. Not sure about my Blight HP (think somth over 120k) but that % scale with that (even if its about 5% - its 6k every second..)

But if OP consider it just because it is single target only, I pointed out it is not such issue in my experience, nothing else;)

[RodHull]

Its ok to put a point or two into, if you have two familiars it can provide good background healing, if you set them to defensive they tend to use it more as well.

[KG]

Now that Familiar packs a punch it feels kind of wasteful to have it healing instead of shotgunning with Storm Orb or doing AoE with Lightning Strike. x2 if you're wearing M. Will of Bysmiel to get a second familiar. I'd rather find other ways to stay alive if that's necessary.

[RodHull]

Originally posted by KG:

Now that Familiar packs a punch it feels kind of wasteful to have it healing instead of shotgunning with Storm Orb or doing AoE with Lightning Strike. x2 if you're wearing M. Will of Bysmiel to get a second familiar. I'd rather find other ways to stay alive if that's necessary.

Im possibly wrong havent played my pet builds in forever but i dont think the various flat damage buffs add to their cast attack, so tbh they are still pretty weak damage wise, they are mainly there in on my conjurer to provide a flat damage boost to my relic spawns and other pets and do a bit of healing on the side.

[Takeda]

In my experience the heal skill simply doesn't trigger - no idea if it's too conditional (within x radius of target, while % health is y or lower etc etc) but i've been in fights where I can watch: Witchhunter in blade barrier for example, and it's not happening.

As KG points out you can have 2 birds with the Mythical Will of Bysmiel which I have on my Necro/Occultist but no points in the heal. I associated Aetherfire with the Stormcrow and use the elemental buff to make the skellies more formidable.

[Sjarken]

I dont use heals at all in my pet build, but there are some damage reduction and health regen. I just recast the pet if its dead or close to dieing.

[KG]

Originally posted by RodHull:

Originally posted by KG:

Now that Familiar packs a punch it feels kind of wasteful to have it healing instead of shotgunning with Storm Orb or doing AoE with Lightning Strike. x2 if you're wearing M. Will of Bysmiel to get a second familiar. I'd rather find other ways to stay alive if that's necessary.

Im possibly wrong havent played my pet builds in forever but i dont think the various flat damage buffs add to their cast attack, so tbh they are still pretty weak damage wise, they are mainly there in on my conjurer to provide a flat damage boost to my relic spawns and other pets and do a bit of healing on the side.

1.0.6.0 saw major changes (buffs) to pets' skills, scaling, etc.

[Kris]

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

Originally posted by Faust Wither:

here a thing that i considering not raising it, the familiar AI triggered by a ally unit that lose some of % of health (maybe around 70%), Blood of Dreeg do the job mostly. maybe if dev change that skill to somekinda chain healing it will be worth.

Its not so bad as it sounds. I run my pet cabalist with 2x hellhound, Blight, 10x skeletons, Familiar and Skeleton servant from Dirge relic (yah, small army:-)

In majority of fights it is Blight that generate most threat and is punished for that. (in other words he is single pet that take damage in encounter - rest - unless some heavy aoe that is not overhealed by blood and devotion healing procs - only if Blight is dead, respectively it is time when servant or hellhoudns are targeted, skeletons usually only if rest pets is dead). For that it is fine he is targeted by extra healing beside blood of dreeg spam.

You're better off putting those points into call of the grave on a pet build, 140 regen for 10s while adding more damage at the same time.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Kris:

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

Its not so bad as it sounds. I run my pet cabalist with 2x hellhound, Blight, 10x skeletons, Familiar and Skeleton servant from Dirge relic (yah, small army:-)

In majority of fights it is Blight that generate most threat and is punished for that. (in other words he is single pet that take damage in encounter - rest - unless some heavy aoe that is not overhealed by blood and devotion healing procs - only if Blight is dead, respectively it is time when servant or hellhoudns are targeted, skeletons usually only if rest pets is dead). For that it is fine he is targeted by extra healing beside blood of dreeg spam.

You're better off putting those points into call of the grave on a pet build, 140 regen for 10s while adding more damage at the same time.

That I have 15/10 already:)

Actually only points I could reconsider is further boost blight or hellhound secondary abilities/auras, blood of dreeg (not needed) or possibly add cruse of frailty as new active ability (that - I believe - would be best except I would need handle another button)

But well, I finished game on ultimate with 0 deaths and pets including skellies usually die only on several particular encounters (ultiamte Kupacubra was probably worst) so not realy reason change anything;)

[Unicarn]

I put 1 point in each when I go Occultist, and I improve the healing by snapshotting the heal with my second set of weapons. Always make sure your Familiar is in defensive mode so it heals more frequently.

Look for +to Mend Flesh and +to Familiar weapons and off-hands and use them when you summon your Familiar for more healing. Unfortunately, +to pet stats doesn't snapshot.

[Befuddled Honey Badger]

Honestly you shouldn't really need more healing than BoD and/or Call of the Grave provides on most fights. With my Cabalist the pets insta-delete trash and Heroes, and Bosses/mini-Bosses rarely last longer than the duration of Howl of Mogdrogen (unless like Cronley they have some sort of damage absorption). The only issues I have is with a lot of AoE stuff but that is mostly taken care of with using Pet Command and microing the pets (I use PC more than I move my own toon in fights). Last time I fought Benn'Jahr I only lost 2 Skeletons the entire fight, which included a few groups of trash too. As for Nemeses, you just need to avoid big attacks/skills by using PC to move out of the way and burst them down with CD's. You are most likely going to lose Skeletons as even with my 300% pet hp buff they only have 36 or 40k hp.

[Pannathrax]

usually it heals me and if my pet is around me they got healed as well.

but i notice that sometimes it heals until all of the pets full health, sometimes it just heal me until full health. energy was not a problem, and the pets are not attacking anything since the mobs are already dead. why is there a difference in healing behaviour?