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lexilogo Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:44pm
Why do people hate Bonnie?
Serious question here. Like, really. Bonnie seems to be one of the most disliked heisters in the community, next to Wick and Jacket. Now, my soft spot for Jacket is my personal tastes, I can understand that (ARMS OUTSTRETCHED!), but I still do not understand Bonnie. I try to compare her to Clover, and this is what I got:

Clover:
-Requires money to use
-Comes with a perk deck that is IMO inbalanced due to being the #1 pick for stealth with zero competitors, but that's just my opinion (Still, it's undeniable Burglar is unpopular for loud, and is preeety bad now compared to Crook 2.0)
-Has no standout features about her other than being Irish
-Comes with a bad assault rifle

Bonnie:
-Is "Free", or at least does NOT require any money to use
-Came with a Mosconi sidegrade
-Came with a perk deck that USED to be awful, but now is most assuredly valid in the meta
-Has no standout features apart from being Sco- No, wait, she's actually pretty funny, and has some form of personality to her. A KISS FROM BONNIE FOR EVERY DEAD COPPER!
-Is fat

Okay, I can understand me finding her funny is a matter of opinion, but I fail to see why Bonnie is up there with Jacket and Wick as the worst heisters. Can someone educate me on what I'm missing about Bonnie, apart from being fat?
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xzyzzy Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:45pm 
She's a fat ♥♥♥♥ and was added to the game with no context.
Scrublord Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by lexilogo:
Is fat

This.

And there's just much cooler people to play as, personally.
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lexilogo Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by JCDENTON:
She's a fat ♥♥♥♥ and was added to the game with no context.

So was Clover, minus being fat. Clover was given a backstory, but how she got into the Payday gang was unexplained. Bonnie had no backstory (Apart from growing up in Glasgow, but that doesn't really count), but how she got into the gang was relatively, if poorly, explained (She traded intel on the Rat to join).

Not to mention it still doesn't make her worse or as bad as Jacket/Wick.
xzyzzy Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:50pm 
Originally posted by lexilogo:
Originally posted by JCDENTON:
She's a fat ♥♥♥♥ and was added to the game with no context.

So was Clover, minus being fat. Clover was given a backstory, but how she got into the Payday gang was unexplained. Bonnie had no backstory (Apart from growing up in Glasgow, but that doesn't really count), but how she got into the gang was relatively, if poorly, explained (She traded intel on the Rat to join).

Not to mention it still doesn't make her worse or as bad as Jacket/Wick.
Clover was the mandatory "look payday, we added a female" addition to the game.
Bonnie was not needed to be in the game at all.
Wick is a walking advertisement and Jacket is a paid advertisement with a tape recorder.

The only good characters that have been added were the original 4, we don't need anymore useless additions to the "crew".
lexilogo Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:52pm 
Originally posted by JCDENTON:
Originally posted by lexilogo:

So was Clover, minus being fat. Clover was given a backstory, but how she got into the Payday gang was unexplained. Bonnie had no backstory (Apart from growing up in Glasgow, but that doesn't really count), but how she got into the gang was relatively, if poorly, explained (She traded intel on the Rat to join).

Not to mention it still doesn't make her worse or as bad as Jacket/Wick.
Clover was the mandatory "look payday, we added a female" addition to the game.
Bonnie was not needed to be in the game at all.
Wick is a walking advertisement and Jacket is a paid advertisement with a tape recorder.

The only good characters that have been added were the original 4, we don't need anymore useless additions to the "crew".

Okay, good. I personally agree. I am not keen on new heisters.

However, you haven't really answered my question. Why is Bonnie worse than Dragan, Clover, Jiro, Houston, ecetera?

Remember, I'm not asking why people hate new heisters, I KNOW the answer to that. It should be obvious. I'm asking why Bonnie is right up there with Wick and Jacket as the pinnacle of the awful heisters.
her head is shaved and she looks like an ugly dude
404 Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:58pm 
Because there was no pretext with her. Just a flimsy attempt (like clover) to add women to the game. Which in and of itself is not a bad thing however, a task they failed flawlessly imo by not making them meaningful or giving them decent "intro" maps (like hox)
that would have been good justification instead of adding them to appease the sarksleezian tumblrites.
chaotic.neutroll Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by lexilogo:
Serious question here. Like, really. Bonnie seems to be one of the most disliked heisters in the community, next to Wick and Jacket. Now, my soft spot for Jacket is my personal tastes, I can understand that (ARMS OUTSTRETCHED!), but I still do not understand Bonnie. I try to compare her to Clover, and this is what I got:

Clover:
-Requires money to use
-Comes with a perk deck that is IMO inbalanced due to being the #1 pick for stealth with zero competitors, but that's just my opinion (Still, it's undeniable Burglar is unpopular for loud, and is preeety bad now compared to Crook 2.0)
-Has no standout features about her other than being Irish
-Comes with a bad assault rifle

Bonnie:
-Is "Free", or at least does NOT require any money to use
-Came with a Mosconi sidegrade
-Came with a perk deck that USED to be awful, but now is most assuredly valid in the meta
-Has no standout features apart from being Sco- No, wait, she's actually pretty funny, and has some form of personality to her. A KISS FROM BONNIE FOR EVERY DEAD COPPER!
-Is fat

Okay, I can understand me finding her funny is a matter of opinion, but I fail to see why Bonnie is up there with Jacket and Wick as the worst heisters. Can someone educate me on what I'm missing about Bonnie, apart from being fat?


Flying against popular opinion it seams, I like them both. A better or more robust story would be nice.
Last edited by chaotic.neutroll; Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:59pm
xzyzzy Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by lexilogo:
Why is Bonnie worse than Dragan, Clover, Jiro, Houston, ecetera?
Dragan got stale after awhile, but he only exists to let people know who LGL is. Jiro is the mandatory "look, we added a japanese dude" to please the weebsno offense. Houston is an exception because he has actual backstory, the people that hate himme included only hate him because he took Hoxton's mask, probably.

But Bonnie? Half of her lines are just her saying "IM A GURL", the other half is garbage. She's in the crew why? She had a few lines of info on who ratted out Hoxton and demanded to rob banks for eternity as payment.

Jacket might've been a paid advertisement, but when he was released, there wasn't NEARLY as much hate for him as there is for Bonnie then and now.
lexilogo Aug 20, 2015 @ 1:59pm 
Originally posted by 404: Gamer Not Found:
Because there was no pretext with her. Just a flimsy attempt (like clover) to add women to the game. Which in and of itself is not a bad thing however, a task they failed flawlessly imo by not making them meaningful or giving them decent "intro" maps (like hox)
that would have been good justification instead of adding them to appease the sarksleezian tumblrites.

Finally, an answer that doesn't apply to all new heisters/is entirely related to her physical appearance

Though I don't think Bonnie was an SJW appeasment thing seeing as no actual controversy was stirred up over Clover; In my personal opinion it was because people wanted a free female character rather than the only female being Clover.
lexilogo Aug 20, 2015 @ 2:02pm 
Originally posted by JCDENTON:
Jacket might've been a paid advertisement, but when he was released, there wasn't NEARLY as much hate for him as there is for Bonnie then and now.

You tellin me that Jacket isn't disliked very much?

Dude, you've been gone too long.
lexilogo Aug 20, 2015 @ 2:08pm 
Originally posted by Thucydides T:
- She's Clover without Clover's charm or sense of humor (seriously, use Project: Canary, Houston and Clover are some of my favorites)
-She was added for no reason story-wise
-She was part of the universally-hated Hype Train event
-They really didn't have any good reason to make her fat other than not being able to think of any other ways to make her unique

Another (Relatively) good answer. Won't change my mind about Bonnie regarding being one of the "Less Bad" new heisters, but this is a better explanation than "SHE'S FAT LUL" which previously was the only answer I got before this thread. Thanks.
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Jej Aug 20, 2015 @ 2:08pm 
Honestly, I don't care that people "hate" Bonnie. Won't stop me from playing as her.
Zdzieli Aug 20, 2015 @ 2:08pm 
Cause she's fat and lots of people have trouble accepting female game character that isn't a hot chick... even though she's supposed to be a professional masked robber and her looks should not have anything to do.

Personally I like Bonnie for her lines and only dislike the fact that she wasn't necessary or even needed, but in my opinion the same goes for anyone except 4 base characters, Hox and Clover.
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fluxtorrent Aug 20, 2015 @ 2:09pm 
Clover wins because

"Everybody stay still and quiet, and the nice Irish lady won't have to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eviscerate you."
"Alright, we're playing a new game called move and I'll ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kill you. Your turn!"
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