What is a good bodycount?

[Lock]

On a loud mission - what is considered a good bodycount?

Lets say, firestarter day 2+3 loud, or big bank loud, watchdogs days 1+2 etc etc.

Just curious

[NaIM]

Relatively big team bodycound for some mission is a sign of incompetent team in general, because that means that you've taken too long to complete objectives.

[Weyland-Yutani HR]

It really depends on the heist/team/how long you're there.

Example: FS Day 3 went loud. I ended up with a 105 body count using a mosconi and wearing a suit. I think that's pretty damn good.

A team I play with got 39 bags with tons of heat on an overkill train heist. I had a body count of about 190 and I was on the bottom of the totem pole, then. Top dog had about 375. Took us about an hour.

It's very subjective.

[Routa]

Objectives > bodycount.

[d¡ve_bomber]

What the ♥♥♥♥ does that even matter? You're not there to kill cops, you're there to steal ♥♥♥♥. You could get an insane amount of kills by camping one room for hours and that would still be terrible play, since no objectives get accomplished.

[Silberfuchs]

Escrito originalmente por Pistrius:

its a legit question though, got some funny people in here

It actually is not.

There are too many factors involved which need to be considered. Is your build rather specialized as support/utility than fighting, or are you a pure Ghost? Then you can't be expected to have the same body count like a Masterforcer or Techforcer.

How long is a mission, what is the difficulty, how many spawns do you get? The RNG is quite important on this one.

What is the tactic, what does your team do? Are you rushing with ECM/C4/Saw, does your team have drill perks, are things going well or do you lose a lot of time with reviving or getting people out of custody?

And finally: how good are the others? Do they kill stuff like mad, or are they hiding and letting you do all the killing? The more aggressive a team is in general, the lower the body count for everyone compared to their average in pub games.


When I play Watchdogs day 2 I sometimes remain at the parking lot and kill off the first wave on my own, while the others are moving the bags down to the docks. It usually results in me being 40-50 kills ahead of the others, who usually have 0-3 kills after the first wave. And when the second wave starts, I often don't hide but run around between the containers, pushing my body count even further, while cutting that of the others who camp in the warehouse and get like 5 kills per assault wave. Usually I have like 100 kills and 20-25 special kills at the end of the mission, while the others probably got like a dozen kills and one special.

But guess what happens to my stat when another aggressive player joins? I gets cut in half. That's 50% variation, depending on only one single teammate.

You can't answer your question in any way, because even if you give the average as answer the real results may vary so heavily that this average is useless. It's like saying "at which age will I die?" and then you get an answer which is probably around 55 or 60, considering all diseases, accidents, murders, etc., and still chances are good you will die at the average age of around 80, or if you die prematurely by another cause it can be literally at any age, from running in front of a bus as a school child from getting cancer with 30.

You can't ask "If Russia [or any other random country] would go into war, how many casualties would they have?". You see that so many important factors are missing in that question that it's basically worthless.

P.S.: Don't mind the bodycount anyway. It's dangerous trying to want to have the highest body count, it makes you take higher risks and thus getting downed more often.

[Julius Seizure]

I can scoot around doing objectives in loud Big Bank with 40-50 kills as a MasterGhost, while my pure Enforcer buddy runs around racking up 200-300+ kills by himself. It really depends on how built you are for combat.

[Echelon2k]

Bodycount is important and at the same time isnt :D the more people kill the less likely it is you get overwhelmed. on the other hand if everyone is busy killing no objectives get done. On OVK i tend to get around 200 max on big bank, train, rats and watchdogs everything else tops out at around 50ish due to the loud maps being so short (usually 5-7 minutes)

[*.)]

Depends wheter or not I had a good day at work.

[Modest Mauser]

Escrito originalmente por cardbaron:

Objectives > bodycount.

Basically this. If you're defending your crew and pushing objectives, you'll likely have the highest count without trying. Then you can quickly hit the tab in end day summary, and feel good about yourself for a micro second before host moves to the next day.

[Diawl]

Big bank, everyone should be aiming at least in the 100-200 mark unless you're working the saw. Otherwise it's debateable that you're pulling your weight defending.

[lexilogo]

Honestly, your team's overall bodycount should be as low as possible. If the total bodycount exceeds 1000, you probably haven't done very well as a team.

[Soshidow]

There are too many factors to consider for a number to matter, for instance; if you had 200+ kills on big bank overkill then you've done good and pretty much carried that game but if your team's total killcount is 500+ then your team is incredibly slow and done a poor job.

A non-combat role will always have far less kills than someone armed to the teeth for swat slaughter. If not then someone is screwing up. I'm often the combat role and easily have the highest kill count but not because I'm better than them it's just because that's my job.

[Khaine.at]

Bodycount doesnt help much - only thing who counts is that the Mission is done without any downed comrad and still some Bullets in your Weapon even after an DW-Rats run;)

[Lt. Ladders]

OVER 9000!

someone had to say it.

[King_Snaven]

Escrito originalmente por =GenSec= Unmarried Bates #bh'14:

OVER 9000!

someone had to say it.