Kel Tec Sub -2000

[Adamantium4530]

So i have been using the kel tec sub -2000 in my ex president full armor build its been a good weapon so far able to destroy very hard mode dozers easily (VH being my main difficulty) do you use this weapon too? what are your thoughts on it?

[Just Jimmy]

Good on a dodge build. But imo there are so many better ex president weapons. Lmgs are much better. Sniper rifles used to be good but idk after this new update

[>//The_FALCON]

if you were running anarchist and an LMG, your main difficutly would be "deathwish", not "very easy"

[Adamantium4530]

Originally posted by >//The_FALCONTnY:

if you were running anarchist and an LMG, your main difficutly would be "deathwish", not "very easy"

you have heard of playing lower difficulty's first to get a good grasp of it so you can be better skilled and better equiped when you try out harder difficulty,s right? you cant just equip a weapon and a perk deck and go into deathwish for the first time expecting to do good right?

[carrot]

Originally posted by Drip Dallas:

Originally posted by >//The_FALCONTnY:

if you were running anarchist and an LMG, your main difficutly would be "deathwish", not "very easy"

you have heard of playing lower difficulty's first to get a good grasp of it so you can be better skilled and better equiped when you try out harder difficulty,s right? you cant just equip a weapon and a perk deck and go into deathwish for the first time expecting to do good right?

Eh, you sorta can. Anarchist can basically afk on dw and below.

[Gaming_Bigfoot]

Originally posted by >//The_FALCONTnY:

if you were running anarchist and an LMG, your main difficutly[sic] would be "deathwish", not "very easy"

If you plan on using these forums a lot, you'll learn there's people like that guy everywhere -- assumes "lol noob" first and foremost before they say anything noteworthy -- but such is the nature of PD2's forums.

As for the gun, if you're going with builds that don't focus on concealment/dodge, I can't say it'd be the first choice I'd go for, but it's still one that should perform perfectly fine up to Mayhem difficulty as up to that point the game is still rather easy for an experienced PD2 player -- it'd just be a matter of building up that experience (which is something many people seem to love flaunting around in the forums when a newcomer looks for advice)
Generally speaking though, that gun is used for its strong damage and concealment making it a decent choice for dodge builds that want a DMR-type weapon.

At the end of the day though, I'd also suggest to experiment with weapons and builds to find what you like most. "Meta builds" will always be out there though for those that'd rather "optimize" their gameplay, as opposed to simply using whatever they feel like and finding ways to make those non-meta choices work out.

[Mosey]

Well, on Very Hard just about any gun will do.

The main strength of the Cavity 9mm is it's high concealment and high semi-auto damage, but there are plenty of other things that do the same thing that have fewer downsides.

Not one of my favorite picks, but it's fine for stealth maps or if you can aim pretty well. Takes a lot of skills IMO to make it more viable given it's bad basic accuracy, but heck in stealth you won't even use it so it's just a concealment stat stick.

Basically it's a single pistol primary that doesn't take advantage of the pistol skills as far as I know. So it's in a weird spot, and isn't generally that great compared to other things.

If you make it work for you, then it's fine though.

[naii.neocities.org]

Originally posted by Drip Dallas:

Originally posted by >//The_FALCONTnY:

if you were running anarchist and an LMG, your main difficutly would be "deathwish", not "very easy"

you have heard of playing lower difficulty's first to get a good grasp of it so you can be better skilled and better equiped when you try out harder difficulty,s right? you cant just equip a weapon and a perk deck and go into deathwish for the first time expecting to do good right?

Uh, yes I can. I make random, dumb builds all the time and DW is so easy that I almost always expect to do well. It's literally a brainless difficulty, where the real issue is not getting bored with some decks.

[Adamantium4530]

i dont even have death wish unlocked it only goes up to mayhem for me