High Crimespree Crashing

[AuriLC]

When I try to join a high crimespree (5 million is the level), it crashes. I do have mods that prevent crimespree crash, but it still crashes. I would appricate help.

Don't join one of those, then. They're not even legit.

[AuriLC]

Ok, but how do I reset crimespree? It crashes when I join it so cnanot reset there.

Make your own CS lobby, and collect your rewards from there.

[Steve]

Originally posted by Cuddle Fish:

Ok, but how do I reset crimespree? It crashes when I join it so cnanot reset there.

If you want to reset, do the 'Claim the Prizes'.

Also mind to share your crashlog and both mod_overrides and mods you installed?

[Mustard Seeds]

Avoid joining during lobbies, unless you have Hide modifiers and rewards mod, since that's one of the reason it crashes when joining lobbies I would suggest to join once the game is in briefing, crashes less that way.

And if you are unable to even host a game/claim rewards reset your level and start a new one and avoid joining high ones without the proper mods. https://modworkshop.net/mod/23618

Originally posted by %%%:

Don't join one of those, then. They're not even legit.

They are legit, is not that hard to get to 1M or more since the pool of available stealth maps can be done in less than 5 or 4 minutes and loud jobs are barely an issue once you get builds to do objectives fast, getting 20k or more levels in a day is not impossible or unheard of, anything on the double digits is where I'd say is suspicious as the host must have at least 5k hours sunk into that gamemode to have a high spree and if it doesn't is most likely edited.

Also the catchup system allows people to boost others so even if a person with a non legit high spree boosted others and those boosted someone else and so on doesn't mean all aren't legit.
And If they are able to play them don't see the problem, considering high sprees is what's keeping a bunch of the players... well playing, and by this point is hard to know who started it and who is cheating, just avoid speculation when you don't know how a game mode works.

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by Mustard Seeds:

Avoid joining during lobbies, unless you have Hide modifiers and rewards mod, since that's one of the reason it crashes when joining lobbies I would suggest to join once the game is in briefing, crashes less that way.

And if you are unable to even host a game/claim rewards reset your level and start a new one and avoid joining high ones without the proper mods. https://modworkshop.net/mod/23618

Originally posted by %%%:

Don't join one of those, then. They're not even legit.

They are legit, is not that hard to get to 1M or more since the pool of available stealth maps can be done in less than 5 or 4 minutes and loud jobs are barely an issue once you get builds to do objectives fast, getting 20k or more levels in a day is not impossible or unheard of, anything on the double digits is where I'd say is suspicious as the host must have at least 5k hours sunk into that gamemode to have a high spree and if it doesn't is most likely edited.

Also the catchup system allows people to boost others so even if a person with a non legit high spree boosted others and those boosted someone else and so on doesn't mean all aren't legit.
And If they are able to play them don't see the problem, considering high sprees is what's keeping a bunch of the players... well playing, and by this point is hard to know who started it and who is cheating, just avoid speculation when you don't know how a game mode works.

Noone plays them anymore besides real hardcore people. The legit million sprees are a well-made team of 4 people, not some rando sitting there alone waiting for people to join them.
No matter how good you are, you can't solo that high sprees. The enemies get millions of health and damage.
Also if someone cheated his spree, you leeched off of it, doesn't make yours legit.

[Meredith K Pseudonym]

Originally posted by Mustard Seeds:

getting 20k or more levels in a day is not impossible or unheard of

833 in an hour? At 15 heists max per hour? What the hell 56-point heist are you doing? Without catch up, it's literally impossible and the idea that it isn't is straight up comical.

1M crime sprees are fakes built on fakes built on fakes.

[Mustard Seeds]

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

Noone plays them anymore besides real hardcore people. The legit million sprees are a well-made team of 4 people, not some rando sitting there alone waiting for people to join them.
No matter how good you are, you can't solo that high sprees. The enemies get millions of health and damage.
Also if someone cheated his spree, you leeched off of it, doesn't make yours legit.

Not really, I've known plenty of people that have high sprees and other players that aren't even that hardcore and are very casual about it that still play CS and they pub them from time to time just for the sake of it and I personally know they didn't cheated theirs, people do prefer friends only/private them since the gamemode crashes a lot with so many people joining and disconnecting constantly.

And there isn't a need for a full crew, you can totally solo high sprees as the bots are near unkillable for whatever reason, there's less spawns and you get to deploy 3 med bags on loud that's 16 heals + 2 on certain maps, fire/poison/concussion nades stuns enemies regardless of their HP, is not about them being unkillable and the damage doesn't matter since is all about armour gating and knowing where to be to avoid blocking objectives and on stealth is about not being spotted and ECM rushing, pretty easy once you get the hang of it regardless of skill level, once you know the mechanics you're good to go.

So by proxy anyone is non legit in your book just by joining a boosted game from who knows at this point who boosted who regardless of whether they edited their game personally, even if they didn't leeched and they actually put the effort into playing.

I would go as far as to say that 100% of the players that have been in a random lobby have been in a cheater's game without knowing and the person sneakily added money, did other things or insta won maps, with your logic everyone of us is a cheater just because we got some numbers from a cheater, man you sure are fun.

[Sunday Driver]

Originally posted by Mustard Seeds:

Avoid joining during lobbies, unless you have Hide modifiers and rewards mod, since that's one of the reason it crashes when joining lobbies I would suggest to join once the game is in briefing, crashes less that way.

And if you are unable to even host a game/claim rewards reset your level and start a new one and avoid joining high ones without the proper mods. https://modworkshop.net/mod/23618

Originally posted by %%%:

Don't join one of those, then. They're not even legit.

They are legit, is not that hard to get to 1M or more since the pool of available stealth maps can be done in less than 5 or 4 minutes and loud jobs are barely an issue once you get builds to do objectives fast, getting 20k or more levels in a day is not impossible or unheard of, anything on the double digits is where I'd say is suspicious as the host must have at least 5k hours sunk into that gamemode to have a high spree and if it doesn't is most likely edited.

Also the catchup system allows people to boost others so even if a person with a non legit high spree boosted others and those boosted someone else and so on doesn't mean all aren't legit.
And If they are able to play them don't see the problem, considering high sprees is what's keeping a bunch of the players... well playing, and by this point is hard to know who started it and who is cheating, just avoid speculation when you don't know how a game mode works.

That is absurd. Even at the extremely generous claim of it only being 5 minutes a map at most each time (which would mean you're very lucky and only doing a very limited set of maps over and over) and ZERO loading and set up time too that's still all fakery as no one is getting these things without cheating the system or joining someone else's cheated game. Millions and millions of points isn't being won at a handful of points per heist.

People were getting these multi million crime sprees within weeks of the system appearing and it would have taken them months at a minimum of constant play to get legit scores that high. It's cheating. Plain and simple. Using catch up to boost your points from someone else's cheated game is still cheating!

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Lets say a GENEROUS 12 point average per heist, forgetting that shorter and easier maps tend to give the lowest points and so would likely be much lower, but anyway, 12 points.

That's 83,333 (ish) matches for 1M points. Don't even pretend these are legit. That's 7000 HOURS PLAY TIME NON STOP CRIME SPREE HEISTING ALONE even assuming it only took five minutes every time and there was ZERO set up time, ZERO loading time, you played non stop, didn't go to the toilet or spend time in a lobby, etc. In reality that time would go up a good chunk because of the reality of how the game plays.

I'm convinced no one has got a legitimate million point match ever without cheating. There's a reason people demand proper records of fantastic claims in gaming and that is because people lie about this stuff all the time until they get caught red handed. A speed run without records means nothing, same with these people claiming ridiculous numbers of points.

[Sunday Driver]

In reality you'd probably get worse average on your points with delays and other failures or roadblocks and end up spending a multiple of these times. 10K or more hours in CS alone, probably. OP is talking about 5M crime spree so multiply all those times by 5. 35000 to 50000 hours (which is longer than Crime Spree mode has existed in hours alone...).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ

[Mustard Seeds]

Originally posted by Meredith K. Pseudonym:

Originally posted by Mustard Seeds:

getting 20k or more levels in a day is not impossible or unheard of

833 in an hour? At 15 heists max per hour? What the hell 56-point heist are you doing? Without catch up, it's literally impossible and the idea that it isn't is straight up comical.

1M crime sprees are fakes built on fakes built on fakes.

Engine problem - 14
Lions den - 10
The breakout - 10
FWB - 10
BB - 13
Go bank - 10
transport jobs - 5
white xmas - 7
All of those maps can be completed in under 6 minutes, a few even less than 3 minutes speedrunning them in an hour you can get about 700 levels, do the math for a whole day, is honestly not that hard to get at least 20k ranks per day.

[Sunday Driver]

You have not done 400K+ heists legit in crime spree to get these points. No one has. Do the math on the time it takes. It's nonsense.

[Mustard Seeds]

Originally posted by Hoxilicious:

That is absurd. Even at the extremely generous claim of it only being 5 minutes a map at most each time (which would mean you're very lucky and only doing a very limited set of maps over and over) and ZERO loading and set up time too that's still all fakery as no one is getting these things without cheating the system or joining someone else's cheated game. Millions and millions of points isn't being won at a handful of points per heist.

People were getting these multi million crime sprees within weeks of the system appearing and it would have taken them months at a minimum of constant play to get legit scores that high. It's cheating. Plain and simple. Using catch up to boost your points from someone else's cheated game is still cheating!

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Lets say a GENEROUS 12 point average per heist, forgetting that shorter and easier maps tend to give the lowest points and so would likely be much lower, but anyway, 12 points.

That's 83,333 (ish) matches for 1M points. Don't even pretend these are legit. That's 7000 HOURS PLAY TIME NON STOP CRIME SPREE HEISTING ALONE even assuming it only took five minutes every time and there was ZERO set up time, ZERO loading time, you played non stop, didn't go to the toilet or spend time in a lobby, etc. In reality that time would go up a good chunk because of the reality of how the game plays.

I'm convinced no one has got a legitimate million point match ever without cheating. There's a reason people demand proper records of fantastic claims in gaming and that is because people lie about this stuff all the time until they get caught red handed. A speed run without records means nothing, same with these people claiming ridiculous numbers of points.

That's basing your math on a very surface level of how the game mode/map work and on top of that is not about luck or perfect circumstances just speedrunning maps let's you stack a bunch of levels.

And as I said anything past double digits without the host not having at least 6k to 8k hours under their belt, I wouldn't even argue as i'm 100% positive they were boosted by a cheater, but i'm saying millions are perfectly doable and they don't take long.

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by Mustard Seeds:

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

Noone plays them anymore besides real hardcore people. The legit million sprees are a well-made team of 4 people, not some rando sitting there alone waiting for people to join them.
No matter how good you are, you can't solo that high sprees. The enemies get millions of health and damage.
Also if someone cheated his spree, you leeched off of it, doesn't make yours legit.

Not really, I've known plenty of people that have high sprees and other players that aren't even that hardcore and are very casual about it that still play CS and they pub them from time to time just for the sake of it and I personally know they didn't cheated theirs, people do prefer friends only/private them since the gamemode crashes a lot with so many people joining and disconnecting constantly.

And there isn't a need for a full crew, you can totally solo high sprees as the bots are near unkillable for whatever reason, there's less spawns and you get to deploy 3 med bags on loud that's 16 heals + 2 on certain maps, fire/poison/concussion nades stuns enemies regardless of their HP, is not about them being unkillable and the damage doesn't matter since is all about armour gating and knowing where to be to avoid blocking objectives and on stealth is about not being spotted and ECM rushing, pretty easy once you get the hang of it regardless of skill level, once you know the mechanics you're good to go.

So by proxy anyone is non legit in your book just by joining a boosted game from who knows at this point who boosted who regardless of whether they edited their game personally, even if they didn't leeched and they actually put the effort into playing.

I would go as far as to say that 100% of the players that have been in a random lobby have been in a cheater's game without knowing and the person sneakily added money, did other things or insta won maps, with your logic everyone of us is a cheater just because we got some numbers from a cheater, man you sure are fun.

Crime Sprees in the millions are not doable with bots. At some point enemies OHK bots. Show someone doing a 1mil CS without a team with ECM rushes or heavy mechanics abusing.
Everyone who just leeched off of anyone has a non-legit crime spree they didn't earn. Period. Those people earned it or cheated it, you are just a leech on them. High end crime sprees are not designed to be reached and you can't reach them by just knowing mechanics. They require heavy abuse of the games mechanics.

[uncle geldgeil]

It is still funny that people actually argue about high sprees if they are legit or not. Yes it would be possible to rush up to lets say 3 million spree just by playing without catchup bonus or anything like that, nobody does that however, including me. All the higher sprees I have seen are not really legit, they all got catchup bonus to have their high ranks. The only legit sprees I see are max around 10 to 50k, no higher. There is no legit high rank, and everybody that claims that has a legit one, is for sure lying anyway.
Also that line "Solo high crime spree is impossbile" is absolute wrong, even with 0 AI, it is indeed possible, just need some luck and you have to be careful. I mean heists like "The Breakout" or something like that, not "Bank Heist" or some ♥♥♥♥.

Back to the main point though, if you want to just join a Spree of 5 million you need to have this here mod: https://modworkshop.net/mod/21026 The Base file is enough, extra is unneeded.
If you want to host a 5 million rank though, you gotta reduce modifiers, the game cannot handle more than 70k modifiers. See how thats done in the Crime Spree Long Guide
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1926826701