Most Concealable Weapons?

[KernelPopcorn]

What are the most concealable weapons? So far I've discovered that the Bernetti and Gruber can have 34 concealment, and the Bronco and Compact 5 can have 33. Are there any more super-concealable weapons?

[Max]

Arkansas Toothpick back in 2015 December, 232 concealment

[Sterling]

Originally posted by Max:

Arkansas Toothpick back in 2015 December, 232 concealment

With or without the melee concealment perk? I think you're leaving out very important information to determine the performance of that weapon in terms of concealment.

[DatMageDoe]

Those are the only weapons which can exceed 32 Concealment.

The most Concealable of assorted weapon categories is as follows:
AR: CAR-4, 32
DMR: Cavity 9mm, 32
Akimbo: Chimano Compact, Crosskill Guard, 32
Primary Shotgun: Raven, 30
Primary Special: Light Crossbow, 30
High DMG Shotgun: Mosconi, 28
Primary GL: GL40, 27
Spam Shotgun: IZHMA, 27
Battle Rifle: AK7.62, 25
Spam Sniper: Grom, 25
Bolt Sniper: Desertfox, 21
LMG: RPK, 8

Pistol: Bernetti 9, Gruber Kurz, 34
Revolver: Bronco, 33
Low DMG SMG: Compact-5, 33
High DMG SMG: Swedish K, 32
Secondary Shotgun: Judge, 31
Secondary Special: Pistol Crossbow, 31
Secondary GL: Compact 40mm, China Puff, 23

[Terminator01]

Originally posted by Sterling:

Originally posted by Max:

Arkansas Toothpick back in 2015 December, 232 concealment

With or without the melee concealment perk? I think you're leaving out very important information to determine the performance of that weapon in terms of concealment.

He was referring to a bug with that melee weapon back there. We had different skills in that time.

[「La+ Darknesss ⸸」]

Originally posted by Sterling:

Originally posted by Max:

Arkansas Toothpick back in 2015 December, 232 concealment

With or without the melee concealment perk? I think you're leaving out very important information to determine the performance of that weapon in terms of concealment.

Pretty sure it's with hidden blade

[Sterling]

Originally posted by Terminator01:

Originally posted by Sterling:

With or without the melee concealment perk? I think you're leaving out very important information to determine the performance of that weapon in terms of concealment.

He was referring to a bug with that melee weapon back there. We had different skills in that time.

So there was no skill to increase melee concealment? Pitiful, how am I going to reach my breakpoint of 234 concealment?

[X-SR71]

Missing a Valkyria there for 32 concealment. Though it's probably too bad to be mentioned.

[Stret]

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

LMG: RPK, 8

HiGHlY cOnCEalAbLe

[Stret]

Originally posted by X-SR71:

Missing a Valkyria there for 32 concealment. Though it's probably too bad to be mentioned.

Not really bad, but needs crits

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

Those are the only weapons which can exceed 32 Concealment.

The most Concealable of assorted weapon categories is as follows:
AR: CAR-4, 32
DMR: Cavity 9mm, 32
Akimbo: Chimano Compact, Crosskill Guard, 32
Primary Shotgun: Raven, 30
Primary Special: Light Crossbow, 30
High DMG Shotgun: Mosconi, 28
Primary GL: GL40, 27
Spam Shotgun: IZHMA, 27
Battle Rifle: AK7.62, 25
Spam Sniper: Grom, 25
Bolt Sniper: Desertfox, 21
LMG: RPK, 8

Pistol: Bernetti 9, Gruber Kurz, 34
Revolver: Bronco, 33
Low DMG SMG: Compact-5, 33
High DMG SMG: Swedish K, 32
Secondary Shotgun: Judge, 31
Secondary Special: Pistol Crossbow, 31
Secondary GL: Compact 40mm, China Puff, 23

This is with crappiest supressors and the corresponsing skill, right? Otherwise I have no idea how you get weapons like AKand CAR-4 up to these numbers.
I get 31 on CAR-4, 24 max on AK.762.

[DatMageDoe]

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

Originally posted by DatMageDoe:

Those are the only weapons which can exceed 32 Concealment.

The most Concealable of assorted weapon categories is as follows:
AR: CAR-4, 32
DMR: Cavity 9mm, 32
Akimbo: Chimano Compact, Crosskill Guard, 32
Primary Shotgun: Raven, 30
Primary Special: Light Crossbow, 30
High DMG Shotgun: Mosconi, 28
Primary GL: GL40, 27
Spam Shotgun: IZHMA, 27
Battle Rifle: AK7.62, 25
Spam Sniper: Grom, 25
Bolt Sniper: Desertfox, 21
LMG: RPK, 8

Pistol: Bernetti 9, Gruber Kurz, 34
Revolver: Bronco, 33
Low DMG SMG: Compact-5, 33
High DMG SMG: Swedish K, 32
Secondary Shotgun: Judge, 31
Secondary Special: Pistol Crossbow, 31
Secondary GL: Compact 40mm, China Puff, 23

This is with crappiest supressors and the corresponsing skill, right? Otherwise I have no idea how you get weapons like AKand CAR-4 up to these numbers.
I get 31 on CAR-4, 24 max on AK.762.

You need the Concealment boost to reach all of these numbers. Some need a +3, but the vast majority need the +1 boost which is applicable to all weapons.

[lexilogo]

Originally posted by Jostabeere:

This is with crappiest supressors and the corresponsing skill, right? Otherwise I have no idea how you get weapons like AKand CAR-4 up to these numbers.
I get 31 on CAR-4, 24 max on AK.762.

Optical Illusions boosts concealment by 1 (and removes 2 from concealment penalties, meaning you can equip medium suppressors as direct upgrades to the small ones), and Boosts can grant +1 Concealment. That's how DatMageDoe was getting those numbers- Essentially, any silenceable weapon that has 30 concealment base or when modded can achieve 32 concealment.

There ARE a couple of weapons that actually achieve 31 concealment without needing Boosts/Optical Illusions to begin with though (I'm of the opinion that this shouldn't be possible and would prefer keeping 30 as the standard, but that's just my own). The Parabellum and Compact-5 I know can achieve this ATM, not sure about others but I think they're the only two in the game that can.

Anyway, here's a quick bit of info- An ideally modded CAR-4 for the aforementioned 32 Concealment:

Short Barrel
Low Profile/Medium Suppressor (medium is preferable, Optical Illusions as forementioned makes it a straight upgrade to the low profile)
Concealment Boost
EMO/Competition Foregrip (I would advise EMO because it's just generally better. Competition is arguably better for stealth but only marginally)
Straight Grip
Vintage Mag
Folding Stock

The Ak.762 build (Personally, my advice is to not bother with high concealment battle rifles. Battle rifles aren't exactly 10/10 weapons, and at present there is no real high concealment battle rifle option, Ak.762 included):

Warning: Don't take the Golden Ak for this build. The Golden Ak has -2 base concealment when compared to the standard which is the only difference between the two weapons.

Modern/Slavic Dragon Barrel (Modern is a straight upgrade)
Medium/Low Profile (as aforementioned you want the Medium if you're taking O.I)
Concealment Boost
Crabs Rail/Battleproven Handguard (Crabs is a straight upgrade)
Ak Rubber Grip
Low Drag Magazine
Skeletal Stock

Both of those builds will get you the concealment stats as advertised by DatMageDoe, assuming you've taken Optical Illusions. If you want to skip out on silencers, just use the exact same builds with the Stubby Compensator instead, though you won't be able to achieve max concealment stats.

[Max]

Originally posted by Sterling:

Originally posted by Terminator01:

He was referring to a bug with that melee weapon back there. We had different skills in that time.

So there was no skill to increase melee concealment? Pitiful, how am I going to reach my breakpoint of 234 concealment?

You missed the ICTV Thanatos/Minigun/RPG crits meta. I had a lot of fun with that.

[Jostabeere]

Originally posted by lexilogo:

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Modern/Slavic Dragon Barrel (Modern is a straight upgrade)
Medium/Low Profile (as aforementioned you want the Medium if you're taking O.I)
Concealment Boost
Crabs Rail/Battleproven Handguard (Crabs is a straight upgrade)
Ak Rubber Grip
Low Drag Magazine
Skeletal Stock

I totally forgot the small mag on the CAR-4 and used quick pull mag.
And yes. I am modding my AK.762 with the exact same parts, yet I get only 24 concealment WITH the silencer skill and WITH boosts (after 500 hours I already do know what they are, thanks).

[coolman552]

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