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Death Sentence is impossible..
I read many guides, discussions, opinions about builds, like armorer, rouge and anarchist. Tried strategies, cover to cover, jokers, inspire aced - and i fail.
I know that this question "hOw tO dEatH sENtENce" was already asked but honestly idk what to do anymore.

Facing 3 enemies = downed,
Peeking for more that 2 seconds = downed
Moving from point A to point B = downed

Can some DS veteran tell me what to do ? Should i use Stoic or Kingpin ? Should I rely on 2 sec immunity when my armor gets depleted (which takes 1 sec) in Armorer and Anarchist perks ?
Because I'm completly out of ideas how to move from DW to DS.

PS. Death Wish i can do for breakfast but DS is just too much. Am I missing something ?
Last edited by スタンレイ; Jun 23, 2019 @ 11:19am
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raqt Jun 23, 2019 @ 11:21am 
Use dodge build or look on the internet
Copy & Cat Jun 23, 2019 @ 11:22am 
abuse mechanics and OP stuff
c0mplex Jun 23, 2019 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by スタンレイ:
I read many guides, discussions, opinions about builds, like armorer, rouge and anarchist. Tried strategies, cover to cover, jokers, inspire aced - and i fail.
I know that this question "hOw tO dEatH sENtENce" was already asked but honestly idk what to do anymore.

Facing 3 enemies = downed,
Peeking for more that 2 seconds = downed
Moving from point A to point B = downed

Can some DS veteran tell me what to do ? Should i use Stoic or Kingpin ? Should I rely on 2 sec immunity when my armor gets depleted (which takes 1 sec) in Armorer and Anarchist perks ?
Because I'm completly out of ideas how to move from DW to DS.

PS. Death Wish i can do for breakfast but DS is just too much. Am I missing something ?
eZ clap dodge build are OP so just use them
Wandering Flare Jun 23, 2019 @ 11:23am 
Use a dodge build and pray to RNGesus, abuse Swan Song and converts.
Teidor Jun 23, 2019 @ 11:26am 
Primary: Dual Grimms + Incendiary Ammo
Secondary: Krinkov Submachine
Melee: Shocking Melee
Perk Deck: Anarchist

Detection less than or equal to 25
Aced Crit (Every tick of the burn has a chance to crit.)
Aced Inspire
15 more shotgun magazine perk with faster reload time perk.
Ace every joker perk.
Swan Song Aced.
Feign Death Aced.
Bullseye Basic.
Use other perk points for anything you want.

Firing once is enough to set ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of cops on fire, but if they don't catch on fire due to range, fire again.
Use Krinkov for Medics and Bulldozers, let dual grimms do the rest.

Keep firing dual grimms and you'll eventually headshot, and save yourself from a death bullet.
Keep people aflame to keep anarchist regenerating.
Last edited by Teidor; Jun 23, 2019 @ 11:29am
Glebu Jun 23, 2019 @ 12:27pm 
give your bots thanatos and piercing rounds
Jostabeere Jun 23, 2019 @ 1:17pm 
One simple answer: Gid gud. If you know the theory, you lack the skill. It's that simple.
Grfchn Jun 23, 2019 @ 2:00pm 
Just use trial and error. If you are good with something you will know it. THe same if you are bad with something. Some other advices would be using Bots and good Boit loudout or playing with guys that know what they do on DS.
brothers grimm akimbo
Ghostbear Jun 23, 2019 @ 2:54pm 
DS is not for everyone, but if you want to beat it, keep at it
Sep Jun 23, 2019 @ 7:13pm 
Originally posted by スタンレイ:
Am I missing something ?


Yes, by looking at your build via database. I can tell that you are being absolutely clueless about it. Add in that you have less than a total of 200 game and below 150 hours of gameplay pretty much tell everything there is.

First of all, this is exactly how your build look like in the database.

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACDFgIJkl:gghJKLNpr:::

You're playing DS without 120 skill point, and with a terribly unoptimized build at that. You waste 3 skill point to ace Combat Medic which is particularly useless on difficulty above Overkill.

This is due to the facts that base amount of recovered health upon revive is 10% at difficulty above Overkill instead of the usual 40%, making the revival values at 13% instead of 52%.

Next is that you spend 4 skill point on Hostage Taker basic, which basically only recover 1.5% of your health every 5 second. That's basically 3.45 health from your 230 default health every 5 second or 4.48 for 299 health (Partner In Crime). If we took into account of the recovery rate & time, that's basically take nearly 6 minutes for full recovery.

On the other hand, unit regular damage is 225 damage per shot at DS difficulty. If your health ever take damage... well.. you catch my drift.. don't you?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15sW5ujghwxsph0xo89vTZbnS_aD7DbKU3CmAFtRBuUI/edit#gid=326942020


Then, your build absolutely lack several core skill require for survival such as basic Resilience & Bullseye. You would need the basic Resilience to improve armor recovery rate in order to refresh your grace period as grace period no longer proc with dodge after update #146.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1388761402

And without Bullseye, you dampen your survivability capabilities as well due to inabilities to armor gating. With the exception of Stoic 9/9 perk, all perk would need this to increase it's survivability considerably high.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1393690285

And going for Dire Need rather than Shockproof. Basically asking to be immobilize & getting downed. Even if it is RNG, it is still a better fail safe than Dire Need.

No Nine Lives either to expand the number of downed, no Swan Song to work as a fail safe.

Originally posted by スタンレイ:
I read many guides

And your build basically reeks of the smell of lying about it. Anybody who had read that much guide for DS would basically know the importances of breakpoint, armor gating, nine lives & etc.

Originally posted by スタンレイ:
Death Wish i can do for breakfast

Basically only play about 47 game at DW difficulty according to the database, with the only heist I consider rather hard would be Birth of Sky. You have yet to even complete DW difficulty at a heist with rather open space such as Goat Sim, The Bomb: Forest, Hoxton Breakout, Meltdown & etc.

Originally posted by Jostabeere:
One simple answer: Gid gud. If you know the theory, you lack the skill. It's that simple.

He doesn't even know the theory. He basically just skip DW difficulty & jump into DS.
Finale Jun 23, 2019 @ 7:43pm 
Try Crackdown, OP.
plop Jun 23, 2019 @ 8:05pm 
Just experiment with really op weapons with different builds and perk decks. You'll eventually find something you like.
Shalqour Teours Jun 23, 2019 @ 8:58pm 
OP builds don't carry you on the heist you need some knowledge of map and if you doin solo some skills
Chinaski_CL Jun 23, 2019 @ 9:19pm 
Dodge and a good team (not bots)
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